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    Up until now I have been fasting from sunrise to Maghrib time. Today I learned that fasting is from the start of the Fajr prayer. So my past fasting isn’t valid? Should I make up the fasting of the past?
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    Re: Should I make up my fasts?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Montana View Post
    Up until now I have been fasting from sunrise to Maghrib time. Today I learned that fasting is from the start of the Fajr prayer. So my past fasting isn’t valid? Should I make up the fasting of the past?
    No because you just need to repent and also you didn't even know so since you know now it's ok it matters about your intension since you didn't intend to purposely screw it up you arnt sinful so u don't need to do anything it's like finding out you've had a mistake in surah al fatiha would u have to redo all your fard prayers of course not
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    Re: Should I make up my fasts?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Bobbyflay23 View Post
    No because you just need to repent and also you didn't even know so since you know now it's ok it matters about your intension since you didn't intend to purposely screw it up you arnt sinful so u don't need to do anything it's like finding out you've had a mistake in surah al fatiha would u have to redo all your fard prayers of course not
    On what basis you are saying this.
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    Re: Should I make up my fasts?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Montana View Post
    Up until now I have been fasting from sunrise to Maghrib time. Today I learned that fasting is from the start of the Fajr prayer. So my past fasting isn’t valid? Should I make up the fasting of the past?
    I think you should ask a scholar. He ie the right person to advise you.
    Should I make up my fasts?

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    Should I make up my fasts?

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    Re: Should I make up my fasts?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Bobbyflay23 View Post
    On the basis that when a sinner has came back to Islam he doesn't have to redo his ramadans he just needs to repent from videos and on the basis that he didn't purposely do it sure if he has a few days to fast then he should just re do it but there's probably years and years of ramadans that happened before he realized do you really think allah is going to burden him by making him fast a entire year
    The case of revert to Muslims by birth is different.
    Plz see the links shared above.
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    Re: Should I make up my fasts?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Montana View Post
    Up until now I have been fasting from sunrise to Maghrib time. Today I learned that fasting is from the start of the Fajr prayer. So my past fasting isn’t valid? Should I make up the fasting of the past?
    The time of fasting starts when the time of fajr starts. Read this to understand the concept.

    Today you can look up on the Internet or in published charts when the time of fajr starts. You cannot eat or drink when the time of fajr starts.

    If you do, your fast will not be valid.
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    Re: Should I make up my fasts?

    format_quote Originally Posted by azc View Post
    The case of revert to Muslims by birth is different.
    Plz see the links shared above.
    I admit I was being arrogant allhuallam
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    Re: Should I make up my fasts?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Bobbyflay23 View Post
    I admit I was being arrogant allhuallam
    No bro, it's not your arrogance at all.
    Should I make up my fasts?

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    Re: Should I make up my fasts?

    Jazak Allahu Khair for helping me. The links you provided were very helpful and I am certain the ruling that I need to make up the days is applicable to me. I am a convert by the way and will need to make up 150 days and pay ½ saa’a for each day.

    So I should make them up as soon as possible? Except for fasting on the 2 Eids and the 3 days after Eid Al-Adha?
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    Re: Should I make up my fasts?

    I believe your situation is a little different from the circumstances given in the links. I would ask a real scholar. This is a rare case. I believe it is because you didn't have so many Muslims around to correct your practice. And in some internet sources it realy says from sunrise to sunset. There is always confusing info in net.
    Should I make up my fasts?

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    Re: Should I make up my fasts?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Montana View Post
    Jazak Allahu Khair for helping me. The links you provided were very helpful and I am certain the ruling that I need to make up the days is applicable to me. I am a convert by the way and will need to make up 150 days and pay ½ saa’a for each day.

    So I should make them up as soon as possible? Except for fasting on the 2 Eids and the 3 days after Eid Al-Adha?
    Giving half saa is only for those who are permanently too ill to fast. You have to make up for them by fasting
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    Re: Should I make up my fasts?

    format_quote Originally Posted by AbdullahAziz View Post
    Giving half saa is only for those who are permanently too ill to fast. You have to make up for them by fasting
    Salam. How have you come to conclusion that he has to make up them ?
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    Re: Should I make up my fasts?

    format_quote Originally Posted by anatolian View Post
    Salam. How have you come to conclusion that he has to make up them ?
    Fasting is an obligation. We owe them to Allah just as we do salah so if we miss them, we still owe them.
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    Re: Should I make up my fasts?

    The ruling for feeding the poor as a substitute for makeup fasts applies only to someone with a chronic illness that prevents one from fasting and that is not expected to improve for the rest of one’s life. This is to the extent that, were one in such a state to donate to the poor for missed fasts and then later improve in health (such that able to fast), one would have to make up those missed fasts. [Ibn Abidin, Radd al-Muhtar]

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    Re: Should I make up my fasts?

    format_quote Originally Posted by AbdullahAziz View Post
    Fasting is an obligation. We owe them to Allah just as we do salah so if we miss them, we still owe them.
    No, I mean does he really make them up? If so, why is that?
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    Re: Should I make up my fasts?

    format_quote Originally Posted by anatolian View Post
    No, I mean does he really make them up? If so, why is that?
    yes he has to as his fasts are basically 'missed' as they weren't accepted

    since they are owed to ALlah and hasn't been given to Him yet, they still have to be offered; it's like if we miss the deadline for paying back some borrowed money, that dont mean we dont have to pay it anymore does it?
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    Re: Should I make up my fasts?

    format_quote Originally Posted by AbdullahAziz View Post
    The ruling for feeding the poor as a substitute for makeup fasts applies only to someone with a chronic illness that prevents one from fasting and that is not expected to improve for the rest of one’s life. This is to the extent that, were one in such a state to donate to the poor for missed fasts and then later improve in health (such that able to fast), one would have to make up those missed fasts. [Ibn Abidin, Radd al-Muhtar]

    http://islamqa.org/hanafi/seekersguidance-hanafi/32432
    No bro you couldn't understand this fatwa and his case as well.

    His case is of kaffarah (expiration). He kept fast though but he didn't know the correct timings of fast.

    Whereas the fatwa explains the case when someone doesn't keep fast due to certain reasons
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    Re: Should I make up my fasts?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Montana View Post
    Jazak Allahu Khair for helping me. The links you provided were very helpful and I am certain the ruling that I need to make up the days is applicable to me. I am a convert by the way and will need to make up 150 days and pay ½ saa’a for each day.

    So I should make them up as soon as possible? Except for fasting on the 2 Eids and the 3 days after Eid Al-Adha?
    Plz see post #18 and tell me if I am correct.
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    Re: Should I make up my fasts?

    format_quote Originally Posted by azc View Post
    No bro you couldn't understand this fatwa and his case as well.

    His case is of kaffarah (expiration). He kept fast though but he didn't know the correct timings of fast.

    Whereas the fatwa explains the case when someone doesn't keep fast due to certain reasons
    Kaffara is when someone deliberately breaks fasts. He 'broke' them by mistake so should make up 1 for 1
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