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How is one certain of Allah's love?

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    how can one be sure Allah loves him? I feel far away and hated by him. I'm neglected and not acknowledged by him. I understand Allah doesn't need us but I made many sacrifices for him but he doesn't acknowledge me.

    I tried to do a good deed yesterday in secret however it got exposed. Now I'm not sure if I'm going to get much reward. I had a choice to help two people. My friend who would appreciate me and a person whose family are racist and look down upon me and will never appreciate a single thing I do for them. I helped the family that disliked me because they needed it more. I went against my nafs and purely for the sake of Allah. I'm not saying I regret it, but I cannot deny I hate being looked down on. I wish to be acknowledged or loved by people. I understand that's not a reality. But I did that good deed purely for Allah. Yet Allah won't answer my dues or listen to me. I'm begging him to get me married to a good woman and to love me. But I'm more humiliated and the laughing stock of the mosque. They all make jokes at me. One person pranked me by saying he had a marriage purposal for me. He kept it going for like 3 days and then told me.he wanted to see my reaction. I forgave him but I was hurt and disgusted. He apologized also but even so I was disturbed how one can make a joke out of someone's misfortune. I hate the mosque because its filled with corruption. Everyone there claims to the best of the best Muslim but they are all rude. There are no good Muslims and finding a women seems more like an impossibility reality. I'm humiliated but despite that I'm still trying to do good to these people and not harm them or make fun against them. Why does Allah let me humiliated? Surely if he loved me he would protect my honor? How can I even be sure he even acknowledges me and likes me?
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    Re: How is one certain of Allah's love?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Studentofdeed View Post
    how can one be sure Allah loves him? I feel far away and hated by him. I'm neglected and not acknowledged by him. I understand Allah doesn't need us but I made many sacrifices for him but he doesn't acknowledge me.
    you can be sure that Allah loves you because you know Allah loves everyone who believes in Him.
    You do realize that you are not doing good deeds for Allahs sake right? From so far I can judge from your post, you are testing Allah by doing good deeds and by waiting for a reaction from Allah. you are doing a good deed, and you expect something back from Allah...that he loves you, that he acknowledges you, that he allows you to marry...etc.
    that is not going to work.
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    I tried to do a good deed yesterday in secret however it got exposed. Now I'm not sure if I'm going to get much reward.
    See? you are doing good deeds in order to get rewarded...not for Allahs sake. that is a difference.
    Of course that is also not bad...very little people can only do good deeds just for Allahs sake and do not even expect rewards in return...but still, we should strive for it at least.

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    I had a choice to help two people. My friend who would appreciate me and a person whose family are racist and look down upon me and will never appreciate a single thing I do for them. I helped the family that disliked me because they needed it more. I went against my nafs and purely for the sake of Allah. I'm not saying I regret it, but I cannot deny I hate being looked down on. I wish to be acknowledged or loved by people. I understand that's not a reality. But I did that good deed purely for Allah. Yet Allah won't answer my dues or listen to me. I'm begging him to get me married to a good woman and to love me.
    just keep your patience you will get married eventually inshaallah. I got married at the age of 35 at a point i start to think that I would not have a family of my own, and now I even got a beautiful 3 year old daughter alhamdulillah.
    So you will get there too...it just isn't your time yet.
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    But I'm more humiliated and the laughing stock of the mosque. They all make jokes at me. One person pranked me by saying he had a marriage purposal for me. He kept it going for like 3 days and then told me.he wanted to see my reaction. I forgave him but I was hurt and disgusted. He apologized also but even so I was disturbed how one can make a joke out of someone's misfortune. I hate the mosque because its filled with corruption. Everyone there claims to the best of the best Muslim but they are all rude. There are no good Muslims and finding a women seems more like an impossibility reality. I'm humiliated but despite that I'm still trying to do good to these people and not harm them or make fun against them. Why does Allah let me humiliated? Surely if he loved me he would protect my honor? How can I even be sure he even acknowledges me and likes me?
    You are doing good...keep it up, try not to lose your innocence and you will be OK.
    Forget about what the people do or say about you...I am sure that is not so easy as it sounds...but still...
    Allah loves you more than many other people...because He tests you heavier. no one gets a burden he cannot carry...This means Allah knows you are a strong person and can carry this burden...you should be proud of it.
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    Re: How is one certain of Allah's love?

    Jazakhallah khayran brother. I'm not expecting reward from the people but from Allah. Hence why I'm frustrated
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    Re: How is one certain of Allah's love?

    By doing these good deeds expecting love from Allah, does that mean it won't happen then?
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    Re: How is one certain of Allah's love?

    The best reward you can hope for is in the hereafter. I encourage you to hold patient, think positively of Allah, and if you do your reward in the hereafter is greater than anything any of us can possibly imagine.

    May Allah bless you with patience and help you find a pious wife.
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    Re: How is one certain of Allah's love?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Studentofdeed View Post
    By doing these good deeds expecting love from Allah, does that mean it won't happen then?
    no. it means you cannot know whether something happens or not. It is in the future...no one knows what happens in the future. Allah may or may not choose to grant your wish. you want a guarantee like "if I do this good deed, then Allah will do that for me"...but you cannot do that...we are not in the position of negiotiating with Allah. we cannot wave at Allah with a contract saying "hello...I just did such a good deed, now you must do this for me".
    We cannot demand stuff from Allah.
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    Re: How is one certain of Allah's love?

    Jazakhallah khayran. You are right. I apologize and did not realize
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    Re: How is one certain of Allah's love?

    Greetings and peace be with you Studentofdeed;
    I'm not expecting reward from the people but from Allah. Hence why I'm frustrated
    I think we all have many rewards from Allah, but we possibly do not acknowledge them or we take them for granted. I spent some time with a homeless man, he carried all his possessions in a couple of bags. He said, every night when I find somewhere to sleep, I reflect on my day and find several things to thank God for. The air I breathe, somewhere to wash, the people I meet, food and somewhere to sleep.

    That homeless man changed how I thought, he had virtually nothing, but he was thankful. We learn profound lessons in unexpected ways.

    May Allah bless you through your struggles in life,

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    Re: How is one certain of Allah's love?

    Allah always gives us tests which might be seen even more difficult especially when we think of them.
    Allah does not burden a soul beyond that it can bear…” (Qur'an, 2:286)
    So dont lose hope, and always keep your faith.
    Allah will never forsake you. He hears and see everything.
    He will give you the answer in his right time.
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    Re: How is one certain of Allah's love?

    Hi student of deed
    Your messages have been popping up in my inbox for ages,
    I haven’t replied, I’ve tried to unfollow you but they keep popping up.

    So I decided to write a reply.

    You seem to be having a tough time of it,
    You seem to be struggling

    It appears you are living a life torn between 2 worlds.
    How people act,
    Vs
    How you think people should act, based on the framework of the religion you share with them.

    You really need to learn how to separate religion from reality.

    “ god or the gods “
    Are how people of the ancient world tried to make sense of the universe and their place in it.

    These beliefs have been passed down through the generations through a mixture of cultural adherence, special privileges, indoctrination and fear.

    People become convinced that their gods are part of reality and not just concepts that they are using to try and make sense of reality.

    Being religious does not make a person moral, or even a good person.
    What makes a person good is that they understand that their words and actions on those around them.
    That impact can be positive or negative.

    Your in an unfortunate position,
    Someone, somewhere , at sometime has convinced you that a particular version of a particular god is real, and there is a particular way that god should be worshipped.

    It’s through this lens you view the world.

    Just remember
    There are good and bad people
    Cut the bad people out of your life, life’s to short.

    Religion is just cultural beliefs
    It’s not reality

    Any way, chin up
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    Re: How is one certain of Allah's love?

    Greetings and peace be with you chalks75;

    Religion is just cultural beliefs
    It’s not reality
    God the creator of all that is seen and unseen exists fully and totally, despite what you might feel about religion.

    format_quote Originally Posted by chalks75 View Post
    Just remember
    There are good and bad people
    Cut the bad people out of your life, life’s to short.
    Sometimes you just can't escape them, they are relatives or work colleagues. Sometimes by kindness you can have an influence on toxic people.

    In the spirit of searching for God,

    Eric
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    Re: How is one certain of Allah's love?

    format_quote Originally Posted by chalks75 View Post
    Hi student of deed
    Your messages have been popping up in my inbox for ages,
    I haven’t replied, I’ve tried to unfollow you but they keep popping up.

    So I decided to write a reply.

    You seem to be having a tough time of it,
    You seem to be struggling

    It appears you are living a life torn between 2 worlds.
    How people act,
    Vs
    How you think people should act, based on the framework of the religion you share with them.

    You really need to learn how to separate religion from reality.

    “ god or the gods “
    Are how people of the ancient world tried to make sense of the universe and their place in it.

    These beliefs have been passed down through the generations through a mixture of cultural adherence, special privileges, indoctrination and fear.

    People become convinced that their gods are part of reality and not just concepts that they are using to try and make sense of reality.

    Being religious does not make a person moral, or even a good person.
    What makes a person good is that they understand that their words and actions on those around them.
    That impact can be positive or negative.

    Your in an unfortunate position,
    Someone, somewhere , at sometime has convinced you that a particular version of a particular god is real, and there is a particular way that god should be worshipped.

    It’s through this lens you view the world.

    Just remember
    There are good and bad people
    Cut the bad people out of your life, life’s to short.

    Religion is just cultural beliefs
    It’s not reality

    Any way, chin up
    Hope springs eternal How is one certain of Allah's love?
    Look.. what u wrote is all illogical. What u wanna say is that everything in the universe was started by nothing. U'll have to understand that 0 plus 0 can never make 1.
    Try to explore things. U'll find so much relation between islam and science. Look for the true path.
    From what I know, @Studentofdeed would not consider ur this advice, as long as Allah guides him. He knows that Allah is testing him. Allah will make a way out for him.Don't think that u would lead anyone astray (until and unless Allah wills it.)

    Try to understand islam. What it's all about. Islam is very logical religion. I m sure u gonna like it too. nd Allah has shown so many signs to mankind. We should ponder over those.
    May Allah guide u.

    Note: not taking anyone's side, not trying to offence anyone.
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    Re: How is one certain of Allah's love?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Eric H View Post
    Greetings and peace be with you chalks75;



    God the creator of all that is seen and unseen exists fully and totally, despite what you might feel about religion.



    Sometimes you just can't escape them, they are relatives or work colleagues. Sometimes by kindness you can have an influence on toxic people.

    In the spirit of searching for God,

    Eric
    format_quote Originally Posted by Eric H View Post
    Greetings and peace be with you chalks75;



    God the creator of all that is seen and unseen exists fully and totally, despite what you might feel about religion.



    Sometimes you just can't escape them, they are relatives or work colleagues. Sometimes by kindness you can have an influence on toxic people.

    In the spirit of searching for God,

    Eric

    There are no real gods
    There are only people that believe gods are real .

    You are convinced that a particular version of a particular god is real, just as other people are convinced a different version of a different god it a real .
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    Re: How is one certain of Allah's love?

    format_quote Originally Posted by user123name View Post
    Look.. what u wrote is all illogical. What u wanna say is that everything in the universe was started by nothing. U'll have to understand that 0 plus 0 can never make 1.
    Try to explore things. U'll find so much relation between islam and science. Look for the true path.
    From what I know, @Studentofdeed would not consider ur this advice, as long as Allah guides him. He knows that Allah is testing him. Allah will make a way out for him.Don't think that u would lead anyone astray (until and unless Allah wills it.)

    Try to understand islam. What it's all about. Islam is very logical religion. I m sure u gonna like it too. nd Allah has shown so many signs to mankind. We should ponder over those.
    May Allah guide u.

    Note: not taking anyone's side, not trying to offence anyone.
    I don’t believe that the universe came from nothing !

    What did god create the universe from ?

    Of course you think I your religion is rational and logical , every believer of every religion thinks their religion is rational and logical.

    Otherwise they wouldn’t believe it!

    It’s just religion
    It shouldn’t be confused with reality How is one certain of Allah's love?
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    Re: How is one certain of Allah's love?

    Greetings and peace be with you chalks75;

    What did god create the universe from ?
    Either something had no beginning or something did not come from anything. Science cannot give us an answer either.

    format_quote Originally Posted by chalks75 View Post
    I don’t believe that the universe came from nothing !
    When you say you don't believe, that means you have no proof. But we have a logical reason to believe that the universe could not exist without God.

    format_quote Originally Posted by chalks75 View Post
    You are convinced that a particular version of a particular god is real,
    There is only 'One God' the creator of all that is seen and unseen. We are all created by the same God despite our differences, the same God hears all our prayers.

    In the spirit of searching for God,
    Eric
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    Re: How is one certain of Allah's love?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Eric H View Post
    Greetings and peace be with you chalks75;



    Either something had no beginning or something did not come from anything. Science cannot give us an answer either.



    When you say you don't believe, that means you have no proof. But we have a logical reason to believe that the universe could not exist without God.



    There is only 'One God' the creator of all that is seen and unseen. We are all created by the same God despite our differences, the same God hears all our prayers.

    In the spirit of searching for God,
    Eric

    I don’t know how the universe came to be,
    You don’t either, nor did people living 1800 years ago, or 3000 years ago.

    You believe it was a particular version of a particular god, the world is littered with people that are convinced the universe was created by a as god.

    I’m not convinced that it’s true , because there is no compelling to me.

    Religions are cultural beliefs
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    Re: How is one certain of Allah's love?

    Thank you @chalks75 . Although I do not share your beliefs , I really do appreciate your efforts and did not mean to annoy you with the notifications. Regardless, chalks75 has made up his mind and we should not give this more trek otherwise more fitna can be caused. Let's keep it clean without arguing
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    Re: How is one certain of Allah's love?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Studentofdeed View Post
    Thank you @chalks75 . Although I do not share your beliefs , I really do appreciate your efforts and did not mean to annoy you with the notifications. Regardless, chalks75 has made up his mind and we should not give this more trek otherwise more fitna can be caused. Let's keep it clean without arguing

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    Student of deed

    It wasn’t annoyed by your posts.

    I’m not sure what “fitna ” is, you’ll have to explain it.

    My point is, not wether your religion is true or not, I think your religion is as true as all the others.

    My point is, you should not expect people to behave a certain way based on their religion.

    Good people will do good things
    Bad people will do bad things ,
    Judge people on their actions, not what they believe.

    Religion will rarely enter into,
    In some cases people use their religion as an excuse to do bad things.

    I quickly googled fitna



    fitna
    /ˈfɪtnə/
    nounISLAM
    noun: fitnah
    unrest or rebellion, especially against a rightful ruler.

    A rightful ruler, is the ruler who is just, and doing a good job.

    A rightful ruler should be based on their ability to rule, not on who they are, who they know, who their parents were, what religion they believe etc
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    Re: How is one certain of Allah's love?

    Greetings and peace be with you chalks75;

    format_quote Originally Posted by chalks75 View Post
    unrest or rebellion, especially against a rightful ruler.
    Our Muslim brothers and sisters are journeying through Ramadan, this is a time of fasting through daylight hours. It is also a time of prayer and giving extra to those less fortunate. I think it is a time when they need less distractions from trying to do what is right.

    Kind regards
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    Re: How is one certain of Allah's love?

    format_quote Originally Posted by chalks75 View Post
    Hi
    Student of deed

    It wasn’t annoyed by your posts.

    I’m not sure what “fitna ” is, you’ll have to explain it.

    My point is, not wether your religion is true or not, I think your religion is as true as all the others.

    My point is, you should not expect people to behave a certain way based on their religion.

    Good people will do good things
    Bad people will do bad things ,
    Judge people on their actions, not what they believe.

    Religion will rarely enter into,
    In some cases people use their religion as an excuse to do bad things.

    I quickly googled fitna



    fitna
    /ˈfɪtnə/
    nounISLAM
    noun: fitnah
    unrest or rebellion, especially against a rightful ruler.

    A rightful ruler, is the ruler who is just, and doing a good job.

    A rightful ruler should be based on their ability to rule, not on who they are, who they know, who their parents were, what religion they believe etc

    Thank you @chalks75 I appreciate the kind words. I would advise you to please look into Islam, as there are many science that correlates with it. I am saying this not because for the heck of it, but because I care. You have nothing to lose but everything to gain. Be open and receptive. Thank you again

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    I will heed you advise as well. Thank you much
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