× Register Login What's New! Contact us
Results 1 to 12 of 12 visibility 2509

The Murderer and the Murdered

  1. #1
    nafy's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    *PrOuD MuSlIm*
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Dunya :(
    Gender
    Female
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    1,544
    Threads
    31
    Rep Power
    119
    Rep Ratio
    46
    Likes Ratio
    1

    The Murderer and the Murdered

    Report bad ads?

    salaamz

    im a little confused bro's n sistaz....i read sumwhere...i cant rememba where ....but n e wayz.....

    it said sumfin lyk,....both the murderer and the one who is murdered will go to hell....

    i was wondering if this was true??? and is der any evidence for this? and if its true then why? cus i really dont understand!

    dont worry....am not about 2 murder n e 1 lol...was jus sumfin i was unclear about

    hope u can help me out inshallah

    take care
    w/salaamz
    The Murderer and the Murdered

    wwwislamicboardcom - The Murderer and the Murdered
    chat Quote

  2. Report bad ads?
  3. #2
    Salaam's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    IB Senior Member
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    51, 31', 2.6"/ 0, 3', 55.3"
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    524
    Threads
    24
    Rep Power
    112
    Rep Ratio
    19
    Likes Ratio
    0

    Re: The Murderer and the Murdered

    Salaam,

    If the person who was murdered had the intension to kill the Murderer, then he also will go to hell...

    So it's to do with the Intension...

    (correct me if im Wrong)
    chat Quote

  4. #3
    Smok's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    Full Member
    star_rate
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Wroclaw, Poland
    Religion
    Unspecified
    Posts
    69
    Threads
    6
    Rep Power
    112
    Rep Ratio
    9
    Likes Ratio
    0

    Re: The Murderer and the Murdered

    But if murdered person was just trying to defend himself will he go to hell?
    chat Quote

  5. #4
    afriend2's Avatar
    brightness_1
    Account Disabled
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Religion
    Unspecified
    Posts
    3,047
    Threads
    0
    Rep Power
    0
    Rep Ratio
    24
    Likes Ratio
    1

    Re: The Murderer and the Murdered

    salaam,

    never heard of that before, now im all confused must find evidence for this, anyone....?

    wassalam
    chat Quote

  6. Report bad ads?
  7. #5
    nafy's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    *PrOuD MuSlIm*
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Dunya :(
    Gender
    Female
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    1,544
    Threads
    31
    Rep Power
    119
    Rep Ratio
    46
    Likes Ratio
    1

    Re: The Murderer and the Murdered

    salaamz

    yeh evidence.......das wat i was lukin 4 lol any1? bro Fi_sabilillah usually is gud wiv dis kinda stuff.......but hes in hiding lolz

    if anybody knows....plz help

    take care
    w/salaamz
    The Murderer and the Murdered

    wwwislamicboardcom - The Murderer and the Murdered
    chat Quote

  8. #6
    basitisnumberone's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    Full Member
    star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Religion
    Unspecified
    Posts
    51
    Threads
    1
    Rep Power
    117
    Rep Ratio
    25
    Likes Ratio
    0

    Re: The Murderer and the Murdered


    “If two Muslims meet with their swords (attacking each other) then (both) the killer and the killed one are in the (Hell) Fire.' I (Al-Ahnaf Ibn Qays) said, 'O Allah's Messenger! It is all right for the killer, but what about the killed one?' He said, 'The killed one was eager to kill his opponent.’” (Reported by Al-Bukhari)
    chat Quote

  9. #7
    Salaam's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    IB Senior Member
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    51, 31', 2.6"/ 0, 3', 55.3"
    Gender
    Male
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    524
    Threads
    24
    Rep Power
    112
    Rep Ratio
    19
    Likes Ratio
    0

    Re: The Murderer and the Murdered

    format_quote Originally Posted by Smok View Post
    But if murdered person was just trying to defend himself will he go to hell?
    Salaam, (peace)

    No, if the person was just defending them selves, they will not go to hell, unless for other reasons...
    chat Quote

  10. #8
    Ahmad ibn Saleh's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    Full Member
    star_rate
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Religion
    Unspecified
    Posts
    27
    Threads
    3
    Rep Power
    112
    Rep Ratio
    37
    Likes Ratio
    0

    Re: The Murderer and the Murdered

    Assalamu 'Alaikum

    The referrence to this Hadith is: Sahih Al Bukhari, Book 2, Hadith 30.

    Wa Assalam
    chat Quote

  11. #9
    Ahmad ibn Saleh's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    Full Member
    star_rate
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Religion
    Unspecified
    Posts
    27
    Threads
    3
    Rep Power
    112
    Rep Ratio
    37
    Likes Ratio
    0

    Re: The Murderer and the Murdered

    Assalamu 'Alaikum

    This Hadith must be kept in context. It implies that when two believers go out with the intention to kill one another with no valid reason and they actually engage in battle, then both are destined for the Hell Fire.

    Wa Assalam
    chat Quote

  12. Report bad ads?
  13. #10
    nafy's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    *PrOuD MuSlIm*
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Dunya :(
    Gender
    Female
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    1,544
    Threads
    31
    Rep Power
    119
    Rep Ratio
    46
    Likes Ratio
    1

    Re: The Murderer and the Murdered

    Salaamz

    jazakallah khayr!

    i fink i get it now.....so if the murdered just gets murdered....n he didnt wanna kill da murderer.....for example it happened all of a sudden....den they dont go 2 hell?......yeh i fink i get it

    thnk u
    take care
    w/salaamz
    The Murderer and the Murdered

    wwwislamicboardcom - The Murderer and the Murdered
    chat Quote

  14. #11
    Ahmad ibn Saleh's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    Full Member
    star_rate
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Religion
    Unspecified
    Posts
    27
    Threads
    3
    Rep Power
    112
    Rep Ratio
    37
    Likes Ratio
    0

    Re: The Murderer and the Murdered

    Assalamu 'Alaikum Wa Rahmatullahi

    Yes, you have got it!

    ALHAMDULILLAH!

    Wa Assalam
    chat Quote

  15. #12
    nafy's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    *PrOuD MuSlIm*
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Dunya :(
    Gender
    Female
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    1,544
    Threads
    31
    Rep Power
    119
    Rep Ratio
    46
    Likes Ratio
    1

    Re: The Murderer and the Murdered

    salaamz

    jazakallah khayr brother!

    take care

    w/salaamz
    The Murderer and the Murdered

    wwwislamicboardcom - The Murderer and the Murdered
    chat Quote


  16. Hide
Hey there! The Murderer and the Murdered Looks like you're enjoying the discussion, but you're not signed up for an account.

When you create an account, we remember exactly what you've read, so you always come right back where you left off. You also get notifications, here and via email, whenever new posts are made. And you can like posts and share your thoughts. The Murderer and the Murdered
Sign Up

Similar Threads

  1. Would you forgive a murderer?
    By GuestFellow in forum General
    Replies: 31
    Last Post: 12-21-2011, 10:42 PM
  2. Photofit : On child murderer
    By syilla in forum General
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 01-25-2008, 04:21 AM
  3. Murderer Escapes In Veil
    By Snowflake in forum World Affairs
    Replies: 18
    Last Post: 12-21-2006, 09:52 PM
  4. am i a murderer?!?
    By 1m@@n in forum General
    Replies: 52
    Last Post: 04-08-2006, 06:46 PM
  5. Muhammad [saws] - a murderer?
    By Malaikah in forum Clarifications about Islam
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 02-12-2006, 07:47 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
create