American Muslims, who will you vote for in US elections?

**Goku** · 11-06-2006

American Muslims, will you vote republican or democrats? If I was an amercan citizen, i'd vote for democrats, since republicans caused a humanitarian crisis in Iraq and authorise CIA torture and are incompetant.

**`Abd al-Azeez** · 11-07-2006

Even tho I'm too young to vote, none! They're all thieves and liers prejudiced against Islam and Muslims.

**Woodrow** · 11-07-2006

**north_malaysian** · 11-07-2006

I cant vote.... LOL!!!

But I've seen Larry King Live yesterday, is it true that if Democrats control the House... they'll vote for impeachment against Bush?

If Democrats win.... is it important or what?

**thirdwatch512** · 11-07-2006

i'm not muslim, but democrat totally!

it's wierd that muslims vote democrat though, as most muslims don't support abortion or gay marriage.. hmm.

**north_malaysian** · 11-07-2006

Originally Posted by thirdwatch512

i'm not muslim, but democrat totally!

it's wierd that muslims vote democrat though, as most muslims don't support abortion or gay marriage.. hmm.

From what I've heard, before 9/11 Muslims are hard core Republican supporters....

My personal conclusion is that, maybe the American Muslims think that it's better to have a govt that support abortion, same sex marriage then having a government invading and killing Muslims...

**Woodrow** · 11-07-2006

Our political parties are not quite as cut and dry as all of that. Very few people are strictly one party. We have no guarantee that any candidate will adhere to any party lines after being elected, Many voters will vote mixed tickets based on the candidate and not on the party. Keep in mind Kennedy was a Democrat and was very anti-abortion.

Here in texas the trend seems to be to vote Democrat for local officials, Republican for State and a mix for Federal spots. However, that all depends on the candidate.

Most of us don't expect or even want our elected people to stick to any party line.

In this midterm election I do not believe there will be enough seat elections in Washington to make any major changes. It takes 6 years to make for a full change in the House, senate and President. Not all seats are up for election at the same time.

**north_malaysian** · 11-08-2006

Originally Posted by Woodrow

Many voters will vote mixed tickets based on the candidate and not on the party.

Which is good.... in Malaysia people USUALLY vote based on the party... even if they put a cow to contest under the political party.... that cow will be voted too

**Woodrow** · 11-08-2006

Originally Posted by north_malaysian

Which is good.... in Malaysia people USUALLY vote based on the party... even if they put a cow to contest under the political party.... that cow will be voted too

That still does hold true with some of the older voters here. However, over the years the 2 major parties have become so similar that it is often difficult to see any difference. Also, like here in the Southern States we have a few that are traditionaly Democratic so it is not all that uncommon for a republican to run for office on the Democratic ticket. In louisiana often the local elections will be between several Democrats with no Republican candidate. A friend of mine was a former Louisiana Governor. Although he was Republican he ran as a Democrat. After election nearly all of his political appointments were Republican.

Many of us feel it is time for a third party to become viable as an alternative to both Democrats and Republicans. We usually do have several smaller parties placing candidates, but they seldom have any support and often the candidates are radicals. remember in the US anybody can run for election, it is not closed to just Democrats and Republicans.

**thirdwatch512** · 11-08-2006

Oh, you live in austin? so do i lol. go chris bell!

@northmalaysian - america, politically has a two sided spectrum, and that's about all. for the most part, you are either republican or democrat lol. alothough the libertarian party is on the rise, for the most part, you're either or. and so yeah, you don't see a huge diverse political arena or whatever you want to call it here as you do in like the UK or the netherlands or even canada.

**north_malaysian** · 11-08-2006

Originally Posted by Woodrow

That still does hold true with some of the older voters here. However, over the years the 2 major parties have become so similar that it is often difficult to see any difference. Also, like here in the Southern States we have a few that are traditionaly Democratic so it is not all that uncommon for a republican to run for office on the Democratic ticket. In louisiana often the local elections will be between several Democrats with no Republican candidate. A friend of mine was a former Louisiana Governor. Although he was Republican he ran as a Democrat. After election nearly all of his political appointments were Republican.

Many of us feel it is time for a third party to become viable as an alternative to both Democrats and Republicans. We usually do have several smaller parties placing candidates, but they seldom have any support and often the candidates are radicals. remember in the US anybody can run for election, it is not closed to just Democrats and Republicans.

But as the world sees it... it's obvious.. to be either Republican or Democrat... and yeah that Nader guy, from Green party isnt it?

How's the result right now?

**north_malaysian** · 11-08-2006

Originally Posted by thirdwatch512

Oh, you live in austin? so do i lol. go chris bell!

@northmalaysian - america, politically has a two sided spectrum, and that's about all. for the most part, you are either republican or democrat lol. alothough the libertarian party is on the rise, for the most part, you're either or. and so yeah, you don't see a huge diverse political arena or whatever you want to call it here as you do in like the UK or the netherlands or even canada.

Before 1999 elections, we have like 3,4 parties fighting for one constituency. After the "Reformasi" ("Reformation" in Malay), PAS (Islamists), Keadilan (Reformists), DAP (Secular Democrats) and PRM (Socialists) united and formed "Barisan Alternatif" (Alternative Front) to go against "Barisan Nasional" (National Front). It's a good alliance back then, even they failed to govern the country.

**Woodrow** · 11-08-2006

Originally Posted by north_malaysian

But as the world sees it... it's obvious.. to be either Republican or Democrat... and yeah that Nader guy, from Green party isnt it?

How's the result right now?

Right now the early results for Texas are just now coming in. So far I have not seen any significant Changes in any counties . So far it appears that the incumbants on the county level will remain. The majority are Democrats. There were very few incumbant republicans and it looks like they are being re-elected.

**Dahir** · 11-08-2006

I, like many others, cannot vote, but my support goes to the Democrats.

At this point, we need change, ANY kind of change.

And when outsourcing, public debt, and other economic problems plague our country, its very rare that gay marriage or abortion is on our minds.

As for Minnesota, the Muslim candidate, Keith Ellison -- he's a bit TOO Liberal; in high support of gay marriage, and he's even FOUGHT for it! And he's been shown to have a strange voting record, even voting socialist/communist a few years! He's very shady and he's also been using the Muslim community as a backbone lately, even though I haven't been compensated, YET!

**north_malaysian** · 11-08-2006

Originally Posted by Dahir

I, like many others, cannot vote, but my support goes to the Democrats.

Do you support Democrats before 9/11?

**Woodrow** · 11-08-2006

Originally Posted by thirdwatch512

Oh, you live in austin? so do i lol. go chris bell!
@northmalaysian - america, politically has a two sided spectrum, and that's about all. for the most part, you are either republican or democrat lol. alothough the libertarian party is on the rise, for the most part, you're either or. and so yeah, you don't see a huge diverse political arena or whatever you want to call it here as you do in like the UK or the netherlands or even canada.

Although it looks like Perry will return. I think Kinky Friedman would have been a very colorull choice.

For the curious here is a link to ongoing results in all of the States. I have not seen any real changes as of yet.

RACE NAME PARTY EARLY VOTES PERCENT TOTAL VOTES PERCENT

**north_malaysian** · 11-08-2006

Originally Posted by Woodrow

RACE NAME PARTY EARLY VOTES PERCENT TOTAL VOTES PERCENT

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I've been watching CNN's "Broken Government" programme last week... How about other American media? Are they pro-Democrats, or pro-Republicans, or neutral (We could only watch CNN, CNBC here...)

**Woodrow** · 11-08-2006

Originally Posted by Dahir

I, like many others, cannot vote, but my support goes to the Democrats.

At this point, we need change, ANY kind of change.

And when outsourcing, public debt, and other economic problems plague our country, its very rare that gay marriage or abortion is on our minds.

As for Minnesota, the Muslim candidate, Keith Ellison -- he's a bit TOO Liberal; in high support of gay marriage, and he's even FOUGHT for it! And he's been shown to have a strange voting record, even voting socialist/communist a few years! He's very shady and he's also been using the Muslim community as a backbone lately, even though I haven't been compensated, YET!

With 90% of the vote counted Keith Ellison is the projected winner in a near landslide.

Keith Ellison Democrat 120,926 (56%)
Tammy Lee Independence 45,797 (21%)
Alan Fine Republican 45,486 (21%)
Jay Pond Green 4,312 (2%)

No matter what anyone's opinions are about Ellison, this does indicate that Muslims are a very powerful political force here in the US.

**north_malaysian** · 11-08-2006

Originally Posted by Woodrow

With 90% of the vote counted Keith Ellison is the projected winner in a near landslide.

Keith Ellison Democrat 120,926 (56%)
Tammy Lee Independence 45,797 (21%)
Alan Fine Republican 45,486 (21%)
Jay Pond Green 4,312 (2%)

So he would be like.... the first muslim as ....?

**Woodrow** · 11-08-2006

Originally Posted by north_malaysian

The page cannot be displayed.

I've been watching CNN's "Broken Government" programme last week... How about other American media? Are they pro-Democrats, or pro-Republicans, or neutral (We could only watch CNN, CNBC here...)

Sorry about the broken link, here is another try.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/youd...ker/index.html

I would say that the media is very divided. Most of the legitimate news agancies do seem to try to keep neutral. You have to remember that any media that favors just one political view is going to have a limited audience. The name of the game is profit, so much of the media will strife to be neutral simply for a larger audience and higher profits.