:eek: i hope not. (i can't watch videos.)format_quote Originally Posted by IzakHalevas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19mpJRq11Hg
Did your prophet really say:
"The ressurection will not happen until Muslims fight the Jews and the Muslims will rejoice in it."
and
"The Jew will hide behind the rock and tree, and the rock and tree will say: 'Oh Servant Of Allah, Oh Muslim, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.'"
Or is this crazy cleric full of BS? I hope he is... or I have learned something new today.
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:eek: i hope not. (i can't watch videos.)format_quote Originally Posted by IzakHalevas
I'm not good in hadith... can some Muslims cite any hadith regarding to the killing of the Jews.. if there are such a hadith....
From what I know, when Jesus return back to earth all people of the Books (Christians and JEws) will be Muslims.... thus if all Jews became Muslims... how can they be killed...
I'm sorry if my question offended anyone... just curious...
Yes it is true. You will fight the Muslims and you will lose.
By the way, that is simply a prophecy, it can't be used to make Islam seem anti-semitic.
(I am only referring to the quotes, I haven't watched the video and so can't comment on it).
The context of the comment:
Anas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘The Dajjaal* will emerge from among the Jews of Isfahaan, and with him will be seventy thousand Jews, wearing crowns.’” (Narrated by Ahmad, no. 12865).
Imaam Ahmad narrated that Jaabir ibn ‘Abd-Allaah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said:
“The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:
‘The Dajjaal* will emerge at a time when religious commitment is low and knowledge has decreased…
Then ‘Eesa ibn Maryam** will descend just before dawn and will call people, saying, ‘O people, what is stopping you from coming out against this evil liar?’
They will say, ‘This man is a jinn’, then they will set out.
When they reach ‘Eesa ibn Maryam, the time for prayer will come the iqqamah will be given, and it will be said to him, ‘Go forward (to lead the prayer), O Spirit of Allaah.’
He will say, ‘Let your imaam go forward and lead you in prayer.’
When they have prayed fajr, they will go out to meet him (the Dajjaal) and when they see the liar, he will start to dissolve like salt in water. ‘Eesa will go to him and kill him.
Even the trees and rocks will call out, ‘O Spirit of Allaah, here is a Jew!’ And none of those who followed him will be left, they will all be killed.” (Hadeeth no. 14426).
*The anti-christ (i.e. evil person who will cause great corruption in the earth)
**Jesus
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format_quote Originally Posted by IzakHalevas
Yes this is true, we believe all jew's will join the dajjal (the anti-christ) and help him in his corruption therefore we will be ordered to kill all jews. Hey its not like we're killing the jews for nothing, we're only going to do it when they cause much corruption surely you can understand the fairness in this belief.
Hmmm.... makes to be an interesting end. Not sure exactly about the Dajjal, but when our Moshiach comes and leads to us to build the Beit Hamikdosh and brings G-d's prescense to thsi earth,, it look like Islam and Christianity have both set it up so that there followers will believe it to be an "anti-christ"., Very interesting indeed.format_quote Originally Posted by IbnAbdulHakim
It's true, the jews will join the dijaal and then a war will ensue
Is the video creepy?
what's it about?
Dajjal....
subhanAllaah, it really does sound like a part of your faith to follow the anti-christ (bring the presence of God to earth) ... dajjal will try to make the people believe that he is God... audhubillahformat_quote Originally Posted by IzakHalevas
No one will believe a Moshiach that claims to be G-d, it is against the principles of Judaism.format_quote Originally Posted by IbnAbdulHakim
We do however believe that the Moshiach will "Fight the wars of G-d" therefore, I guess he would need enemies for that. Hopefully, the war part will be skipped over.
kay:
If a king will arise from the House of David who delves deeply into the study of the Torah and, like David his ancestor, observes its mitzvos as prescribed by the Written Law and the Oral Law; if he will compel all of Israel to walk in [the way of the Torah] and repair the breaches [in its observance]; and if he will fight the wars of G-d; - we may, with assurance, consider him Moshiach.
If he succeeds in the above, builds the [Beis Ha]Mikdash on its site, and gathers in the dispersed remnant of Israel, he is definitely the Moshiach.
He will then perfect the entire world, [motivating all the nations] to serve G-d together, as it is written [Zephaniah, 3:9], "I will make the peoples pure of speech so that they will all call upon the Name of G-d and serve Him with one purpose."
The end is world peace and all worshiping the one G-d.
and... lol, I have never heard of him being one eyed or from iran. lol.
Last edited by IzakHalevas; 02-12-2007 at 11:49 AM.
Peace,
^ your talking about the Mahdi, the mahdi will spread peace till the time of Jesus (peace be upon him) who will then take over the role. So i guess you should follow mahdi
Salaam,
Inshallah,all followers of the Dajjal will be destroyed for their "moderate ways"
In ahadith it is said,the Dajjal will offer water but in truth it is fire
He will offer food but in truth is faeces.
And only the Muslim will know who he is,only the pious Muslim will read on his forehead what he is.
The Dajjal,will conquesr and kill whever he goes,but will not be able to enter Madinah,stopped by Angels.
He will casue an earthquake and those of weak faith will leave Madinah.
One of the most pious man will meet the Dajjal abd be killed by the Dajjal and then ressurected.
But the Pious man will reject the Dajjal as GOD,and the Dajjal will not be able to slay him again.
Read the hadith it is there for all to know.
Will the mahidi or dajjal look like a beast?
dajjal will look like a beast yes. his amazingly short and wide with one eye protruding like a floating grape and coarse hair, he is also of reddish skin and moves incredibly fast.format_quote Originally Posted by AvarAllahNoor
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And...he will be doing what exactly? Running an army?format_quote Originally Posted by IbnAbdulHakim
he will create certain illusions and perform miracles by the permission of God thereby fooling many into accepting him as God. He will cover as much of the earth with his corruption till Eesa (jesus peace be upon him) comes to stop him.format_quote Originally Posted by AvarAllahNoor
btw you say he'll be tall here it says ''Maseeh Dajjal will be short, and his legs will be crooked '' ?
Well, when is this likely to take place? seems a tad faar fetched. How can anyone follow a beastly looking thing?format_quote Originally Posted by IbnAbdulHakim
i will look into it when i get home, im sure i read somewhere that the distance between the two shoulders of dajjal is 70 cubits long.format_quote Originally Posted by AvarAllahNoor
I believe those comments have been taken out of context. Usually, whenever you read about the Jews (or Christians for that matter) in the Quran, it is refering to a particular group of jews (the english translation probably does not clarify this. In which case, one should read a scholar's interpretation of it). On certain occasions, however, the Quran refers to Jews (or Christians) in the collective sense, though this is generally made clear in the verse (if not, a reading of the scholars notes should clarify it).format_quote Originally Posted by IzakHalevas
EDIT: see IbnAbdulHakim's post.
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