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     41331565 stockwell 203 1 - Shot man not connected to bombing Police cordoned off a 200-metre area around the station

    A man shot dead by police hunting the bombers behind Thursday's London attacks was unconnected to the incidents, police have confirmed.
    The man was killed in Stockwell Tube station in an incident described by Scotland Yard as a "tragedy".

    Two other men have been arrested and are being questioned after bombers targeted three Tube trains and a bus.

    Police have also raided a house in Streatham Hill, south London, in connection with the failed attacks.

    'Horrendous consequences'

    A Scotland Yard statement read: "We believe we now know the identity of the man shot at Stockwell Underground station by police on Friday 22nd July 2005, although he is still subject to formal identification.

    "We are now satisfied that he was not connected with the incidents of Thursday 21st July 2005.

    "For somebody to lose their life in such circumstances is a tragedy and one that the Metropolitan Police Service regrets."

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    The statement confirmed the man had been followed by police from a house in Tulse Hill that was under surveillance.

    His death is being investigated by officers from the MPS Directorate of Professional Standards, and will be referred to the Independent Police Complaints Commission.

    John O'Connor, former commander of the Met Police, told the BBC the consequences of the shooting were likely to be "quite horrendous".

    He said he expected officers to face criminal charges, and other officers could even refuse to carry weapons.

    But Shami Chakrabarti, director of human rights group Liberty, said it was too early to judge what the effects would be.

    She called for a "prompt, comprehensive and independent investigation".

    Arrests

    Police announced on Saturday evening they have raided another property in south London.

    Residents of the street in Streatham Hill, near Brixton, told how armed police ordered them to stay in their homes while they cordoned off the area.

    There do not appear to have been any arrests.

     41334717 stockwellpa2 203 1 - Shot man not connected to bombing Police arrested one man after a raid on a block of flats in Stockwell



    Two men are still being held at Paddington Green police station, central London, in connection with Thursday's attacks.

    The first man was arrested at around 1630 BST on Friday during a raid on a block of flats near to Oval and Stockwell Tube stations.

    Eyewitnesses said he was led away with a woman and child.

    The second man was arrested late on Friday night, also in the Stockwell area.

    Both are being held under anti-terrorism legislation which gives police 14 days before they have to bring charges.

    CCTV images

    Scotland Yard said they had been contacted by over 500 members of the public following the release of CCTV footage of four suspects.

    Detectives said they were hopeful of useful lines of inquiry coming from the calls and e-mails.

    Three devices found after the failed bombings were the same size and weight as those used in the suicide attacks of 7 July, which killed scores.

    The fourth was smaller, apparently contained in a plastic box. The same chemicals appear to have been used.

    They targeted Oval, Warren Street and Shepherd's Bush stations and a bus in Hackney.

    The Hammersmith and City line train was removed from Shepherd's Bush station on Saturday afternoon.

    Transport for London said it hoped to have trains running on the line from Paddington to Hammersmith on Saturday evening.

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    Re: Shot man not connected to bombing

    sad that guy wasn't connected it seems but why did he run?
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    Re: Shot man not connected to bombing

    "sad that guy wasn't connected it seems but why did he run?"

    I don't think this is the real issue here. The real issue is what appears to be a "shoot to kill" policy on anyone who displays the physical features of a muslim (Beard/Hijab) or who is of "Mediterranean or Asian appearance". It is important that we are vocal in drawing this discussion out and highlighting this with those that we meet. Remember, Sir Ian Blears - Met Chief of Police - immediately after the shooting stated that this was linked to the recent events. It is deeply concerning to me that leading figures can make such statements before a thorough investigation has been carried out. Likewise, we as muslims, must refrain from making accusations or assumptions without verifying the facts. Another alarming aspect to this very unfortunate incident, has been the publics acceptance of this new execution style of policing. We know the side that the media will be on - already there are stories appearing in the papers that if anyone is convicted (police marksmen) as a result of this shooting, then the police will refuse to carry guns as they will not have immunity from prosecution. Remember the behaviour of the police during the hight of terrorism from ythe IRA - how many miscarriages of justice did we see?

    We need to remember that we as muslims are the new media for the wider society. It is a big responsibility but one that must be undertaken - not only to secure our rights and refute what has now become an open attack on our islamic values and deen, but also because no one else will...

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    Re: Shot man not connected to bombing

    man dis is really sad, he woz innocent! jus imagine wot his family are goin thru! so woz he a muslim? if so den does dis mean he died as a shaheed?
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    Re: Shot man not connected to bombing

    This touched me deeply.....
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    Re: Shot man not connected to bombing

    The guy was a 27 year old brazilian, probably an immigrant...

    They followed him from his flat to the station, and then because he was wearing a baggy jacket, he could have been a potential suicide bomber, and so when he got to the station, they rushed him, and he ran, so they stoped and fired five bullets into his head, why you may ask? Because if he really was one, then even being shot once in the head, he may be able to press the trigger, and they need to be sure.

    Now, fine they needed to do that, he shouldnt have run, but i mean, if he was an immigrant, his english would have been quite bad, and i mean, if you saw three white guys running up to you, would you just stand there? For all he knew they could be coming to kick the crap out of him. They followed him for half an hour to the station on an empty road, why didnt they just stop him there...

    And now he had nothing to do with anything...
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    Re: Shot man not connected to bombing

    If he didn't have anything to hide than why did he run? That's what made him look suspicious therefore the police shot him.
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    Re: Shot man not connected to bombing

    If you saw 3 white guys running at you, i guess you would kinda run....

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    Re: Shot man not connected to bombing

    word haha, i'd run. maybe he was guilty of something else, and thats why? Allahu alim, what matters is he was shot man. sympathies to the fam, even though they cant see this =)
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    Re: Shot man not connected to bombing

    Absolutely...

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    Man Shot in London was Brazilian
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    The family of a Brazilian man shot dead by police hunting the men behind London's attempted bomb attacks have told of their anger and disbelief.

    Jean Charles de Menezes's grandmother said there "was no reason to think he was a terrorist."

    Police expressed "regret" over the killing of the 27-year-old electrician at Stockwell Tube station on Friday.

    But relatives say apologies are not enough as Brazil's foreign minister seeks an explanation from Jack Straw.

    Their comments came after Scotland Yard confirmed Mr Menezes, who lived in Brixton, south London, was completely unconnected to the bomb attacks.

    Elsewhere two men have been arrested after bombers targeted three Tube trains and a bus in failed attacks last Thursday.

    Police also said a suspect package found in north-west London on Saturday may be linked to those attacks.

    'Tragedy'

    His family are struggling to come to terms with the circumstances surrounding Mr Menezes' death.

    His cousin, Alex Alves Pereira, from London, told BBC Brasil's website: "Apologies are not enough. I believe my cousin's death was result of police incompetence."

    Describing his cousin as a "person full of life" he said his cousin was "a victim of government's mistakes."

    He told Brazil's O Globo television: "He does not have a past that would make him run from police."

    Mr Menezes' grandmother, Zilda Ambrosia de Figueiredo, told Globo TV "there was no reason to think he was a terrorist".

    "He was very easy going and very communicative with everyone."

    In a statement earlier Scotland Yard said: "For somebody to lose their life in such circumstances is a tragedy and one that the Metropolitan Police Service regrets."

    But Brazil's foreign minister Celso Amorim will be demanding further explanations when he meets the foreign secretary in London later on Sunday.

    In a statement Brazil's government said it "looks forward to receiving the necessary explanation from the British authorities on the circumstances which led to this tragedy".

    The shooting is being investigated by officers from Scotland Yard's Directorate of Professional Standards, and will be referred to the Independent Police Complaints Commission.

    Mr Menezes' cousin Mr Pereira, said the 27-year-old was from the city of Gonzaga in Minas Gerais state, and had lived in London legally for at least three years.

    The BBC's correspondent in Brazil, Tom Gibb, said Mr Menezes had lived for a time in a slum district of Sao Paulo and that could explain why he had run from the police.

    He said: "The murder rates in some of these slums are worse than in a lot of war zones and that could explain why, when plain clothes officers pulled a gun on him, he may have run away."

    Gésio César D'avila, a friend and colleague, said Mr Menezes had considered alternative transport after the failed attacks on 21 July.

    "We were together on Thursday, and when we saw what happened, Jean said he wanted to buy a motorbike to avoid the tube," he said.

    Surveillance

    Mr Menezes had come out of a house in Tulse Hill, south London, which had been under police surveillance because of a suspected link to Thursday's attempted bombings.

    Police said Mr Menezes clothing and behaviour added to their suspicions.

    After leaving the house he caught a bus to Stockwell Tube, where officers told him to stop.

    He then ran down an escalator and tried to board a train before being shot, witnesses say. Civil rights groups have called for a full inquiry.

    Meanwhile Dr Azzam Tamimi, from the Muslim Association of Britain, told BBC News the police should review their procedures.

    "It is human lives that are being targeted whether by terrorists or whether in this case unfortunately by people who are supposed to be chasing or catching the terrorists."

    But the Mayor of London, Ken Livingstone, said: "The police acted to do what they believed necessary to protect the lives of the public.

    "This tragedy has added another victim to the toll of deaths for which the terrorists bear responsibility."

    Suspicious package

    A package was found by a member of the public in bushes in Little Wormwood Scrubs on Saturday morning.

    A Scotland Yard spokesman said: "An initial examination suggests that the object may be linked to devices found at four locations in London on July 21."

    Police said it would be subject to "detailed forensic analysis".

    Police have also raided a house in Streatham Hill, south London, in connection with the failed attacks.

    Meanwhile the News of the World newspaper has offered a £100,000 reward to catch the second wave of London bombers.

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    1: Witnesses report seeing up to 20 plain clothes police officers chase a man into Stockwell Tube station from the street
    2: One person says the man vaulted the automatic ticket barriers as he made his way to the platforms
    3: The most direct route is via this escalator or the staircase that sits alongside it
    4: Police challenge the man but he apparently refuses to obey instructions and after running onto a northbound Northern line train, he is shot dead
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    We should pray for our fellow muslim brothers and sisters who are put on test and trials, may Allah swt grant them sabr and may they be rewarded in Jannah Ameen.
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    what about a prayer for this brazilian dude?
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    May Allah forgive him...

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    Re: Shot man not connected to bombing

    format_quote Originally Posted by TEH
    If you saw 3 white guys running at you, i guess you would kinda run....

    eh?
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    haha, explaining that would completely kill it.
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    3 plain clothed police men, look like 3 white guys...

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    Re: Shot man not connected to bombing

    format_quote Originally Posted by TEH
    3 plain clothed police men, look like 3 white guys...

    So what are you saying about white people?

    What is so bad about 3 white guys as opposed to 3 black guys or 3 hispanic guys or 3 Arab guysa running at you?
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    LOL

    well, if they had shaved heads, they would have all the markings of BNP followers...

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