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    Who spread Islam in the sub-continent?

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    Do you know how Islam was spread in the sub-continet of Pak-o-Ind?

    Which kind of people spread Islam in this region?
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    Re: Who spread Islam in the sub-continent?


    format_quote Originally Posted by iqbal_soofi View Post
    Do you know how Islam was spread in the sub-continet of Pak-o-Ind?

    Which kind of people spread Islam in this region?
    I'm not sure. my parents are from Bangladesh and I've heard stories about the poeple who introduced Islam in our area of Bangladesh. We're from Sylhet (I probably spelled it wrong). I think the stories are true because the grave of the Imam is still there. His name was Shah Jalal, something like that. He came from Yemen but his uncle was a well known Sheikh at that time and he lived in Baghdad. So the uncle gave his nephew some sand from their area and he told him to travel until he finds a place where the sand is similar to the one he gave him. So Shah Jalal traveled and along the way many people started following him until he reached our area with 300 or more followers....the story goes on...i'm probably boring you guys..sorry.

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    I think it was by the cousin of Al Hajjaaj ibn Yusuf Al-Thaqafi, Muhammad ibn Qasim who was only 17years old when he lead the army, during the rule of Bani Umayya in 97After Hijrah [AH].

    Some muslim women had been captured by hindu pirates next to Sindh in Pakistan, so he lead an army to get them back - and he conquered Pakistan at that time, alhamdulillah. And Allaah knows best.
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    Re: Who spread Islam in the sub-continent?

    sufis.
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    Re: Who spread Islam in the sub-continent?

    format_quote Originally Posted by siFilam View Post



    I'm not sure. my parents are from Bangladesh and I've heard stories about the poeple who introduced Islam in our area of Bangladesh. We're from Sylhet (I probably spelled it wrong). I think the stories are true because the grave of the Imam is still there. His name was Shah Jalal, something like that. He came from Yemen but his uncle was a well known Sheikh at that time and he lived in Baghdad. So the uncle gave his nephew some sand from their area and he told him to travel until he finds a place where the sand is similar to the one he gave him. So Shah Jalal traveled and along the way many people started following him until he reached our area with 300 or more followers....the story goes on...i'm probably boring you guys..sorry.

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    Well that's an intersting stories though. There're many other sufis who spread Islam in different areas of the sub continent. They too have intersting stories. These stories are made more interesting by their followers by adding spices into them. You can hear these stories when you go to their graves which are very well decorated. They make a lot of money from the graves of sufis.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by iqbal_soofi View Post
    Well that's an intersting stories though. There're many other sufis who spread Islam in different areas of the sub continent. They too have intersting stories. These stories are made more interesting by their followers by adding spices into them. You can hear these stories when you go to their graves which are very well decorated. They make a lot of money from the graves of sufis.
    I doubt that he was a sufi but if he was he probably wasn't one of those deviated ones. through the stories it was told that he performed miracle, taught Islam to the natives and fought the Hindu king who tried to stop him and his follower. Allah Knows best.

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    Re: Who spread Islam in the sub-continent?

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    I doubt that he was a sufi but if he was he probably wasn't one of those deviated ones. through the stories it was told that he performed miracle, taught Islam to the natives and fought the Hindu king who tried to stop him and his follower. Allah Knows best.

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    All the sufis performed some miracles. This was their way to attract and impress innocent people. They named these as 'Karamaat'. However, Sufis never fought with anyone. They actually worked as a link between the people and the local rulers although their connections with the rulers were not open or visible. They were also known as 'Waseela' (means link). They calmed down the public uprisings against wicked rulers by teaching tolerance and endurance to the people.
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    Re: Who spread Islam in the sub-continent?

    format_quote Originally Posted by iqbal_soofi View Post
    All the sufis performed some miracles. This was their way to attract and impress innocent people. They named these as 'Karamaat'. However, Sufis never fought with anyone. They actually worked as a link between the people and the local rulers although their connections with the rulers were not open or visible. They were also known as 'Waseela' (means link). They calmed down the public uprisings against wicked rulers by teaching tolerance and endurance to the people.
    then he wasn't a Sufi because he fought the Hindu King who ruled over our area. after the king's defeat he ran for his life and moved to somewhere near the border of India...

    just curious...u like sufis?
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    format_quote Originally Posted by siFilam View Post
    then he wasn't a Sufi because he fought the Hindu King who ruled over our area. after the king's defeat he ran for his life and moved to somewhere near the border of India...

    just curious...u like sufis?
    But you said he showed some miracles which is more like sufis.
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    Question: Who spread Islam in the sub-continent?

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    Re: Who spread Islam in the sub-continent?

    format_quote Originally Posted by north_malaysian View Post
    Question: Who spread Islam in the sub-continent?

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    Are you sure?

    Do you know that Muslims failed to spread Islam in the sub-continent when they tried to do it in the prescribed way. Islam was then spread in the sub continent many centuries later by those who deviated too much from the prescribed way. They were sufis. They deviated from the basics of Islam so much that religious scholars don't want to admit them as Muslims.
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    Re: Who spread Islam in the sub-continent?

    format_quote Originally Posted by iqbal_soofi View Post
    Are you sure?

    Do you know that Muslims failed to spread Islam in the sub-continent when they tried to do it in the prescribed way. Islam was then spread in the sub continent many centuries later by those who deviated too much from the prescribed way. They were sufis. They deviated from the basics of Islam so much that religious scholars don't want to admit them as Muslims.
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    it was muhammad ibn qasim ra lik bro fi said and he was sent by hajjaj ibn yousaf who was caliph. i tink hajjaj was his uncle
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    No bro ^ Al Hajjaaj ibn Yusuf wasn't khalifah, he was a governor of Iraq under the Umayya Dynasty.


    Sister siFilam, karamaat can occur - but they happen to the people who are really pious. We know even companions of the Messenger of Allaah experienced them;

    http://www.islamicboard.com/biograph...ced-salaf.html


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    Some muslim women had been captured by hindu pirates next to Sindh in Pakistan, so he lead an army to get them back - and he conquered Pakistan at that time,
    Conquered an entire country because Hindu pirates captured some women.
    Would the term "Islamic Liberation" be applied here?
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    Re: Who spread Islam in the sub-continent?

    format_quote Originally Posted by wilberhum View Post
    Conquered an entire country because Hindu pirates captured some women.
    Would the term "Islamic Liberation" be applied here?

    Most countries at that time didn't allow the people to practise their own religion freely, so if you were to go to Al-Shaam [Greater Syria] - the Byzantinian Romans wouldn't allow their people to follow any religion except christianity, if you went to Persia/Iraq - the Sassanids wouldn't allow people to follow any other religion other than Zoarastrianism, if you went to India/Pakistan - they wouldn't allow you to follow any other religion other than hinduism etc.

    An example of this is when a man who lived in Greater Syria became muslim, and he was killed by the Byzantinian Romans because he left the religion of their ruler - Heraclius.


    So when Islaam came into power, it actually spread to other lands to allow the people to follow their own religion freely, so long as they payed the jizya tax [a small tax], similar to a tax that muslims would pay anyway [i.e. zakaah.] If these people payed the jizya, they would have their blood and honor protected, and no-one could force them to leave their religion.

    If an army came to attack that state, it would be the muslims duty to defend the honor and blood of the non muslims within that state. This is why if you go to Pakistan/India today, there are still many hindus, if you got Greater Syria, there are still many Christians, if you go to Persia/Iran - there are still Zoarastrians, yet most of these people became muslim and still are today because they saw that islaam was the truth.


    Therefore the people had the freedom of religion and they were so happy with the liberation that the muslims gave them, by the Mercy of Allaah. Otherwise they would have to pay heavy taxes to the Persian Sassanids or Roman Byzantinians and be slaves for them. And they wouldn't have a freedom to religion or even honor. Their blood was cheap in the site of these people, so Allaah blessed alot of them with islaam because they saw the justice of the religion revealed to Allaah's final Messenger, Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him.)



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    So the term "Islamic Liberation" could be applied here.
    Interesting.
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