why sacrifise of Jesus (p) is unique & others sacrifises went unnoticed ???

[Muslim Woman]

I seek refuge in Allah (The One God) from the Satan (devil) the cursed, the rejected

Assalamu Alaikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh (May the peace, mercy and blessings of Allah be upon you)

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Many Christians believe death (!) of Jesus (p) is unique & no one ever sacrificed life for the sake of the world , God , religion etc , etc.


In the history, so many people sacrificed lives & wealth for Islam……..not even Muslims bother to know about them…..what a pity.


I don't want to hurt Christians' feelings....just want to tell them & us that many people sacrifised so much for the sake of God.......we must at least know about them.

short intro :



Sumayyah, herself, was the seventh person to embrace Islam, thus, one of the very first believers.


The Al-Mughirah clan used to torture her in the attempt to force her leave Islam and return to idolworship.


When Abu Jahl heard of her Islam and her husband Yasir and her son Ammar, he whipped them all and beat them. She was aged, and weak too.


People used to pass by and witness her being tortured by the side of her son and husband in the hot sands of Makkah.



Only the passing shadow of the Prophet (salAllahu alayhi wasalam) could relieve such heat and torture. Muhammad heard the dying groans of Yasir and called to Heaven.



He turned to the suffering Muslims to console and comfort them,

"I have brought good tidings for you, Be patient, O family of Yasir. God has promised you a special place in Paradise".


…………Subhan'Allah, if we took time to familiarise ourselves with the details of their experiences, then the difficulties we face in our societies will seem insignificant by comparison.




As Abu Jahl beat and tortured Sumayyah one day, she refused to recant her Deen, something that enraged Abu Jahl. The patriarch came later to inspect the results of his harsh sentence, and dear Sumayyah roused her last energy.




When he approached, she spat the bitter dust in her mouth at him.

He was so overcome by blind anger that he savagely took a spear as she lay on the hot burning sand, looking up to the sky, and he speared her through her midsection.


She was the first of her family and the entire Ummah to meet Allah as a Martyr.


{ Masha Allah }



Read in details:

Sumayyah bint Khabat r.a was one of the first seven people to be enlightened by Islam and swear allegiance to the prophet saw.



She is among the foremost of the greatest women companion. Islam is unique in the sense that a persons value does not deoend on colour, race, language sex or nationality.



The norms are purity of heart and goodwill towards all. As Allah says “ Verily the most honourable of you with allah is that (believer) who is most pious”. (49:13)


Thus a person who wishes for his fellow human beings what he wishes for himself, who is kind to his fellow human beings for the sake of Allah S.W.T. , is the onewho fulfils the conditions of the test set by him

The seven people who first accepted islam were the following:




Abu Baker siddique, Ali bin Talib, Khadijah, zain bin Harith, Sumayyah bint Khabat, ‘Ammar bin Yasir, Bilal bin Abi Rabiah ( not set in order)



The Quraish of mekkah could not harm the prophet saw because of the power and position of his uncle abu Talib. Abu bakkar siddique was also a very powerful man because of the wealth of his tribe and his own personal influence. But the common muslim whether man or womanwas not spared any imaginable torture or torment.

Sumayyah bint khabat r.a , her husband and her son amaar were very often the targets for the cruelty of the qureish.




On one occasion as the prophet saw was passing by the market place he saw all three members of the family being put through the worst form of torture possibler. But he prophet saw was so helpless that there was no way he could rescue them. He could only console them and said, “be patient o family of Yasir! For your final destination is Paradise”

Uthman ra also narrated that the prophetsaw used to say these words to comfort the family. One ‘Ammer managed to escape and reach the prophet saw. He then asked when this persecution of the innocent muslims would end, and when they would be able to breathe peacefully.



He said things were going beyond all limits. The prophet saw then comforted him with a prayer to Allah to prtect and save the family of Yasir from the hell fire.




Abu jalh gave sumeyya bint khabat the worst kind of punishment, but she did not waver even for a second and remained as steady as a rock. He tried to pressure, cajole with and threaten her to recant, but she bluntly refused. He could not accept the fact that she could resist him so stubbornly and in out of rage he thrust his spear into her. This proved to be a fatal blow, and she died.




Thus aumeyya bint khabat had the distinction of being the first woman martyr of islam. This incdent took place seven years before the hijrah. Then her husband also fell victim to the tirture of the Quraish and he also died. After the martyrdom of both the parents, ‘Ammar took a special place in the affections of the prophet saw. He used to address him lovingle as ibn Sumeyyah. He proohet saw often spoke of the family of yasir in the highest terms of praise.

Abdullah bin Mas’ood r.a. says the prophet saw once said that when dissensions and disputes appeared among the people Ibn Sumeyyah would always stand by the right and just.



This family sacrificrd their lives, all in order to nourish the truth and also to earn rewards for the hereafter. It is about people like these that Allah says:

“ Verily, Allah has purchased of the believers their lives and their properties for (the price) that theirs shall be the paradise. They fight in Allahs cause so they kill (others) and are killed. It is promise in truth which is binding on him in the taurat and the injeel and the quran.


And who is truer to his covenant than Allah? Then rejoice in the bargain that you have concluded. Hat is the supreme success” ( 9:111

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[Grace Seeker]

Christians know that many people have laid down their lives on behalf of other people, on behalf of their country, on behalf of their religion. What Christians mean by saying that Jesus' death is unique in dying for the sake of the world is that his death actually brought about a change in the order of things in the world in which we live. It is put this way in our scriptures:

But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away [from God] have been brought near through the blood of Christ. (Ephesians 2:13)

Jesus did this for "whosoever believes in him", any one in the entire world.

As a Muslim you think of Muhammad (pbuh) receiving a message from God for the entire world. That was God's gift to all of mankind through Muhammad -- his message -- and it was accomplished by Muhammad remembering and reciting the word God reveal to him.


We Christians also think of God giving all of mankind a gift through Jesus, in our minds that gift is eternal life with God, and it was accomplished by Jesus dying on the cross. As Muslims you don't recognize that Jesus or anyone else has ever really died in such a way that it made a difference in even one person's eternal life with God. So if the Christian claim were true that this is what Jesus did do, not for just one person, but the entire world, then that would be very unique indeed.

[Keltoi]

Not to mention that there were literally thousands upon thousands of Christians who died for their faith whose names were forgotten or never known. The point is not that Jesus's sacrifice was unique, but the reason for His sacrifice was unique.

[Muslim Woman]

Salaam/peace

like Trinity , purpose of sacrifise of Jesus (p) is very complicated to understand ( at least for me ).



I was told in other thread that Jews don't need to believe in Jesus (p) to get a ticket to heaven. Also , many non-Catholics believe Catholic will go to hell.

Just think about Mother Teresa ---she sacrifised her whole life for Jesus (p) ; still many Christians believe she deserves hell. If any Muslims says this , other will scold him/ her that hey , u r mean minded.

Many Christians also believe that babies who die before baptism (! ) will go to hell........i really don't understadnd these things.

If so many Christians are going to hell forever, then why Jesus (p) died ?

[Keltoi]

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Salaam/peace

like Trinity , purpose of sacrifise of Jesus (p) is very complicated to understand ( at least for me ).



I was told in other thread that Jews don't need to believe in Jesus (p) to get a ticket to heaven. Also , many non-Catholics believe Catholic will go to hell.

Just think about Mother Teresa ---she sacrifised her whole life for Jesus (p) ; still many Christians believe she deserves hell. If any Muslims says this , other will scold him/ her that hey , u r mean minded.

Many Christians also believe that babies who die before baptism (! ) will go to hell........i really don't understadnd these things.

If so many Christians are going to hell forever, then why Jesus (p) died ?

I'm not Catholic and I've never heard any Protestant minister state that Catholics are going to Hell. Not saying it doesn't happen, just haven't experienced it myself. Individuals say alot of things, but the fact remains that God will be the ultimate judge of salvation.

[Muslim Woman]

Salaam/peace ,

...... but the fact remains that God will be the ultimate judge of salvation.

then why Jesus (p) died ?

[Keltoi]

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Salaam/peace ,




then why Jesus (p) died ?

Christ died so that all mankind might have a way to achieve salvation and forgiveness for their sins. This doesn't mean by calling one's self a Christian they are automatically saved. However, those who live by Christ's Message and accept Christ as their Savior will indeed be forgiven and granted eternal salvation.

[Muslim Woman]

Salaam/peace ,

...... those who live by Christ's Message and accept Christ as their Savior will indeed be forgiven and granted eternal salvation.

I told u ....many non-Catholic Christians believe God/ Jesus (p) will burn Mother Teresa in hell fire. It means many Christians don' t believe that '' those who live by Christ's Message and accept Christ as their Savior will indeed be forgiven and granted eternal salvation ''

[Keltoi]

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Salaam/peace ,




I told u ....many non-Catholic Christians believe God/ Jesus (p) will burn Mother Teresa in hell fire. It means many Christians don' t believe that '' those who live by Christ's Message and accept Christ as their Savior will indeed be forgiven and granted eternal salvation ''

Well, I don't know where you get this belief about non-Catholics believing Mother Teresa is in hell fire. I've never heard that before, so I don't think that is a common belief.

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The Christian( said it on purpose) who shot up VT asked the same question as the title of this thread in his manifesto that he wrote to NBC

[Keltoi]

The Christian( said it on purpose) who shot up VT asked the same question as the title of this thread in his manifesto that he wrote to NBC

Firstly, the VT shooter wasn't a Christian, at least not actively or practicing. He compared himself to Christ and compared his suffering to Christ...never heard anything about him asking a specific question about why Jesus's sacrifice was unique.

[Muslim Woman]

Salaam/peace ,

Well, I don't know where you get this belief about non-Catholics believing Mother Teresa is in hell fire. I've never heard that before, so I don't think that is a common belief.

In this forum , a Catholic told us that his family members are non-Catholics & he always heard that Catholics will go to hell. Insha Allah , i will try to find that post....so many threads are here.....it will take time.

i just browsed & found these.

Is Mother Theresa A Christian?


Mother Theresa is not a Christian. She is an idolater that worships bread, wine, statues, and men.


God commands His people to stay away from people like this. Don't use her as an example in Sunday School classes. Don't use her as an example anywhere

Blasphemy from the Lips of Mother Theresa

http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/mothther.htm

[Keltoi]

Salaam/peace ,




In this forum , a Catholic told us that his family members are non-Catholics & he always heard that Catholics will go to hell. Insha Allah , i will try to find that post....so many threads are here.....it will take time.

i just browsed & found these.

Is Mother Theresa A Christian?


Mother Theresa is not a Christian. She is an idolater that worships bread, wine, statues, and men.


God commands His people to stay away from people like this. Don't use her as an example in Sunday School classes. Don't use her as an example anywhere

Blasphemy from the Lips of Mother Theresa

http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/mothther.htm

Well, that is a personal opinion and not recognized Protestant doctrine.

[Muslim Woman]

Salaam/peace ,

Well, that is a personal opinion and not recognized Protestant doctrine.

ok , pl. tell me about recognized Protestant doctrine. All Jews & All Christians will go to heaven ?

If not , then who are those unfortunate Jews & Christians who will be roasted in fire ?

I know , God knows well . But , can u give me an idea/ do u have any criteria to say , who could be that poor Christian who after declaring that Jesus (p) is my Saviour will not be saved ?

[Abdul-Raouf]

why death (he didnt die yet is the truth) of Jesus (AS) was unique....

Prophet Jesus (AS) asked dua to Allah that he want to be in the Ummah of Prophet Mohammed(SAS)..... his dua was accepted by Allah... and thus Allah raised him to heaven ..thus Jesus(AS) is yet to die...

Allah will send Jesus (AS) bck to earth... in the future... and make him part of our Ummah...... only after that Jesus(AS) will taste death.....

[Grace Seeker]

The Christian( said it on purpose) who shot up VT asked the same question as the title of this thread in his manifesto that he wrote to NBC

Firstly, the VT shooter wasn't a Christian, at least not actively or practicing. He compared himself to Christ and compared his suffering to Christ...never heard anything about him asking a specific question about why Jesus's sacrifice was unique.

Secondly, the VT shooter was also suspected by some to be a Mulsim because of some of the other things he did. And others suspected him to be a Buddhist, simply because of his country of origin. I've never heard any definitive answer to his beliefs (or lack of them) except to say that they were confused.

[Grace Seeker]

Salaam/peace ,




In this forum , a Catholic told us that his family members are non-Catholics & he always heard that Catholics will go to hell. Insha Allah , i will try to find that post....so many threads are here.....it will take time.

i just browsed & found these.

Is Mother Theresa A Christian?


Mother Theresa is not a Christian. She is an idolater that worships bread, wine, statues, and men.


God commands His people to stay away from people like this. Don't use her as an example in Sunday School classes. Don't use her as an example anywhere

Blasphemy from the Lips of Mother Theresa

http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/mothther.htm

Muslim Woman, you can find many people who spout hate and still take on the name of Christian. You could also find many people who spout hate and still take on the name of Islam. In my opinion, hate-mongering "Christians" are about as Christian as hate-mongering "Muslims" are Muslim.

[Grace Seeker]

why death (he didnt die yet is the truth) of Jesus (AS) was unique....

Prophet Jesus (AS) asked dua to Allah that he want to be in the Ummah of Prophet Mohammed(SAS)..... his dua was accepted by Allah... and thus Allah raised him to heaven ..thus Jesus(AS) is yet to die...

Allah will send Jesus (AS) bck to earth... in the future... and make him part of our Ummah...... only after that Jesus(AS) will taste death.....

Yes, Musammil, Keltoi and I understand that these are your beliefs as a good Muslim, and also the teachings of the Muhammad (pbuh). However, we are trying to answer Muslim Woman's questions about the teachings of Christianity and therefore we have to turn to something other than the Qur'an and Hadith for an answer.

[Muslim Woman]

Salaam/peace ,

we are trying to answer Muslim Woman's questions about the teachings of Christianity ...

I read somewhere that among Christians 80 % are Catholics . i noticed in few sites words like that Christians & Catholics ( as if Catholics are not Christians ) . And as i mentioned earlier , many Christians believe Mother Teresa won't be saved.

So , if minority Chrisitans think majority Chiritians are NOT going to be saved , does not it sound very strange & made the death of Jesus (p) totally meaningless ???????

[glo]

Greetings, Muslim Woman

Keltoi has mentioned twice that he has never heard of any such claim that Mother Teresa will go to hell:

I'm not Catholic and I've never heard any Protestant minister state that Catholics are going to Hell. Not saying it doesn't happen, just haven't experienced it myself. Individuals say alot of things, but the fact remains that God will be the ultimate judge of salvation.

Well, I don't know where you get this belief about non-Catholics believing Mother Teresa is in hell fire. I've never heard that before, so I don't think that is a common belief.

I have to agree with Keltoi.
I have never come across any such claim amongst any Christian denomination.

Now, that's not to say that there are not some Christians who make such claims ... but I think we can speak for the mainstream denominations.

Perhaps it would be helpful if you could speficy a little just how many Christians you think have that belief, and how you come to that conclusion.

But aside of how many people do or do not make such claims, you also have to remember that people can sometimes be very judgmental and like to 'play God' by judging others.
I have seen both Christians and Muslims being very quick to pass judgment on their fellow believers and branding them as 'good' or 'bad' believers.
You know,and I know that it is wrong of us to do so.

The final judgment will be God's and God's alone. He knows Mother Teresa's heart as well as any of our hearts.
After all God knows best!

Peace be with you.