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    I just saw this videoclip from CBC News in Canada on youtube of some guy basically blaming Muslim community in Canada for terrorism! Looks like people will do anything to get on tv these days. Astaghfirullah, May Allah keep us safe from such fitnah.



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cLyUpcYdKc
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    Re: ***"Islamic Teacher" Betrays Muslims!!***

    Assalamu'Alaykum

    You know what do not let me cross path with this deviant Shia, yea I said it he is Shia. Subahanallaah he’s calling my teacher which I study under a Terrorist? As well as All the Al Maghrib instructors.
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    Thats the impression I had as well that he is shia. This video should definitely come to the attention of our Islamic leaders and teachers. Why doesnt someone do something about this guy???? How does he get away with bad mouthing Quraan ul Kareem?!! I was simply shocked!
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    It seams to be that he is trying to stop radicalism. I think that is a good thing.
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    Re: ***"Islamic Teacher" Betrays Muslims!!***

    format_quote Originally Posted by wilberhum View Post
    It seams to be that he is trying to stop radicalism. I think that is a good thing.
    Agreed. We need more Muslims like him.
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    Like what exactly?
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    Astagfirullah..that was really shocking
    May Allah keep us away from such fitnah and guide us all..Ameen
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Philosopher View Post
    Agreed. We need more Muslims like him.
    He's a good muslim, and has the guts to speak out and fight radicalism.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Philosopher View Post
    Agreed. We need more Muslims like him.
    pfffffft well the al maghrib website isnt hidden or anything here you go

    http://www.almaghrib.org/home.php

    radical much? i dont think so
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    That's under the asumption that stopping radicalism is under his intention.

    This could eithre make him good or totally bad, because if he is lying then that is totally wrong, right?

    But as Muslims I dont think I should say his intentions are bad, maybe he is genuily unaware of things.

    may Allah guide us

    I have to edit this: Whoever made the video should fear Allah and not attribute something which is not true! The Guy didnt say anything about Qur'an but rather the commentary and articles in it. SubhanAllah!
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    i didn't see anything which he said to be 'shocking', he didn't badmouth the quran all. And Maverick what fitnah are you talkng about bro?
    the guy didn't betray Muslims at all and he wasn't blaming the Muslim community in Canada for terrorism either instead he said that the Muslim community 'has failed to shut out radical propaganda', basically the Muslim community could do better.
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    I agree with you Israa, some people take things way out of context sometimes. I think think he was a brave Muslim for speaking out against radicalism.
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    Re: ***"Islamic Teacher" Betrays Muslims!!***

    format_quote Originally Posted by ismahan View Post
    I agree with you Israa, some people take things way out of context sometimes. I think think he was a brave Muslim for speaking out against radicalism.


    IS he speaking out against radicalism though?
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    Yeh well when someone says that they follow "Sufism, which rejects the ideology of Jihad"....or that the Muslim community should be blamed for the 17 Muslim kids who are accused of attempting to bomb the CN tower - this is what he is referring to by the way if you didn't know...then I think it's pretty clear as to if he's blaming Muslims for allowing "extremism" to operate within their mosques. What you guys are saying is basically that he did a good thing because he's fighting terrorism. That's what it may appear like, but if you knew his reputation in Toronto, you would know that he is a "Faykh" rather than a "Shaykh."

    I just did a simple search on google which gives this:



    "They would enter into the mosque to pray, and they would pray in a very aggressive manner, and they would come in military fatigues and military touques and stuff. It looked to me that they were watching a lot of those Chechnyan jihad videos online and stuff."

    Amiruddin is a teacher of Sufism, a traditional brand of Islam that rejects the ideology of jihad. Amiruddin says the group was seduced by hardline propaganda financed by the Saudi government and promoting a strict, ******* brand of Islam.

    He says the Saudis have flooded Canada with free Qur'ans, laced with jihadist commentary.

    "In the back of these Qur'ans that are being published in Saudi Arabia, you have basically essays on the need for offensive jihad and the legitimacy of offensive jihad and things like that. Very alarming stuff," he said.

    Amiruddin said many mainstream Muslim organizations in Canada are really part of the problem, standing by as extremist propaganda spreads in the mosques.

    Recruiting young teens

    Amiruddin says Khalid underwent a rapid transition from a clean-cut Canadian teenager to a long-haired, radicalized introvert.

    He says the young men would pray by themselves, and try to recruit younger teens to the fundamentalist ******* view.

    Amiruddin says Khalid stopped coming to the mosque after he befriended 43-year-old Qayyum Abdul Jamal, another key suspect, who once preached that Canadian forces were in Afghanistan to rape Muslim women.

    Amiruddin also has a theory as to why Khalid may have been open to such influences.

    "His mother passed away and let's say within the first month of his mom passing away, his girlfriend, who was not Muslim, dumped him. And then from that within a year you have this radical turnaround right? Even Fahim Ahmad, he was in love with a girl who constantly rejected him, right? Maybe he was just looking for love? I can't say for certain, but this was something I found common with these young guys."
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    Assalamu'Alaykum


    You know what never mind he is not shia he is nashqabandi... that explains a lot. Like bro Maverick showed. and the fact he keeps saying " Madina" Madina? what is his point? Madina is launching terrorists? Subhanallaah open your eyes don’t blindly follow what you hear. Verify it and I will speak against anyone who says that Al Maghrib teachers are from the EXTREME RADICAL group. Nonsense. As for you guyabano sorry to say this but you have no right saying who is a” good Muslim” and who is not.
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    What on earth is the guy going on about.

    He calls Madinah uni "extreme & radical". What a joke.
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    That's the whole thing. Has he done research about Madinah University???
    He has no quaifications to come on tv and speak about these things. When dirtbags like him come on television to speak about Islam, saying things like they would wear military fatigues to the mosque n pray hard....you can buy military fatigues from Wal Mart!! And why is he watching other people praying while he's praying? So if they pray hard that doesn't mean they are radical. If he really wanted to stop radicalism, then he should start by correcting himself first.

    And I don't think Sufis are against Jihad either because I've read of many mujahideen who were sufis. So then what does that make Amiruddin?
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