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    AsalamuALyakum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh Wamaghfiratuh ALLLLLL

    Basically yeah...,

    Does anyone know who Abu Jahm is?

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    Re: Just a question... (Ermmmm..)

    Wa'alaikum Salaam waRahmatullaahi waBarakaatuh

    Well...did you Google the name? I ain't gonna copy + paste any random thing off Google...but after I typed that name up...all that came up was stuff like "he was a wife beater" or something.

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    Re: Just a question... (Ermmmm..)

    jahm or jahl?
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    Re: Just a question... (Ermmmm..)

    format_quote Originally Posted by jzcasejz View Post
    Wa'alaikum Salaam waRahmatullaahi waBarakaatuh

    Well...did you Google the name? I ain't gonna copy + paste any random thing off Google...but after I typed that name up...all that came up was stuff like "he was a wife beater" or something.

    BUT...ALLAAHU A'LAM



    The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to Faatimah bint Qays, when she consulted him about whether she should marry Mu’aawiyah or Abu’l-Jahm: “As for Mu’aawiyah, he is a poor man who has no money, and as for Abu’l-Jahm his stick is always over his shoulder [this may mean either that he travels a lot, or that he habitually beats his wives].”

    From Zaad al-Ma’aad, 5/168


    http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?re...n=eng&txt=jahm


    In another hadith:

    Al-Bukhaari (373) and Muslim (556) narrated from ‘Aa’ishah that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) prayed in a black cloak that had markings, and he looked at its markings. When he finished praying, he said: “Take this cloak to Abu Jahm ibn Hudhayfah, and bring me his plain garment, for they distracted me just now when I was praying.”. Hishaam ibn ‘Urwah narrated from his father, from ‘Aa’ishah that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “I was looking at its markings whilst I was praying and I was afraid that they would distract me.”

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    Cool Re: Just a question... (Ermmmm..)

    format_quote Originally Posted by Fi_Sabilillah View Post





    The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to Faatimah bint Qays, when she consulted him about whether she should marry Mu’aawiyah or Abu’l-Jahm: “As for Mu’aawiyah, he is a poor man who has no money, and as for Abu’l-Jahm his stick is always over his shoulder [this may mean either that he travels a lot, or that he habitually beats his wives].” From Zaad al-Ma’aad, 5/168

    http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?re...n=eng&txt=jahm

    In another hadith:

    Al-Bukhaari (373) and Muslim (556) narrated from ‘Aa’ishah that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) prayed in a black cloak that had markings, and he looked at its markings. When he finished praying, he said: “Take this cloak to Abu Jahm ibn Hudhayfah, and bring me his plain garment, for they distracted me just now when I was praying.”. Hishaam ibn ‘Urwah narrated from his father, from ‘Aa’ishah that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “I was looking at its markings whilst I was praying and I was afraid that they would distract me.”

    http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?re...n=eng&txt=jahm

    AsaalmuAlaykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh Wa Maghfiratuh,

    both hadiths look neutral, was he a bad man? or nah?

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    Re: Just a question... (Ermmmm..)




    That's all i could find, when bro jzcasejz heard that he was a 'wife-beater' - then i think that it's not related to that at all, the hadith of him carrying a stick can simply be interpreted as 1) being a traveller alot of the time or 2) that he uses that stick to beat people alot.

    Other than that, i'm not really sure. Unless you mean the Jahmiyya sect? Since they have a similar name.. kinda? Allaah knows best.



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    Cool Re: Just a question... (Ermmmm..)

    format_quote Originally Posted by Fi_Sabilillah View Post



    That's all i could find, when bro jzcasejz heard that he was a 'wife-beater' - then i think that it's not related to that at all, the hadith of him carrying a stick can simply be interpreted as 1) being a traveller alot of the time or 2) that he uses that stick to beat people alot.

    Other than that, i'm not really sure. Unless you mean the Jahmiyya sect? Since they have a similar name.. kinda? Allaah knows best.

    WalaykumSalaam Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh Wa Maghfiratuh,

    okay then,

    i never actually heard of a Jahmiyya Sect no offence..

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    Re: Just a question... (Ermmmm..)

    jahmiyyah sect?

    is this referring to the followers of imam ash'ari and maturidi?

    plz correct me if im wrong?
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    Re: Just a question... (Ermmmm..)

    Sorry, i don't know about this guy.

    I know about Abu Jahl though.
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    Cool Re: Just a question... (Ermmmm..)

    format_quote Originally Posted by moabubaker View Post
    Sorry, i don't know about this guy.

    I know about Abu Jahl though.
    That's cool ,

    just ..this name kept propping up in hadiths that i recently read.

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    Re: Just a question... (Ermmmm..)

    format_quote Originally Posted by IbnAbdulHakim View Post
    jahmiyyah sect?

    is this referring to the followers of imam ash'ari and maturidi?

    plz correct me if im wrong?




    The Jahmiyyah sect spread from a man called Jahm ibn Safwan. In regard to Qadr [destiny] - they say that we're under compulsion, and that we don't do anything except that we are forced to do it since it is our destiny.

    Whereas the Ahlus Sunnah know that we also have a freedom of choice in our actions.

    The Jahmiyyah also reject Allaah's Attributes, and they have other faults in their beliefs too that hellfire isn't forever etc. And Allaah knows best.


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    Re: Just a question... (Ermmmm..)

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    Is hellfire forever for everyone den? |
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    Re: Just a question... (Ermmmm..)

    format_quote Originally Posted by Umma Wasat View Post
    Is hellfire forever for everyone den? |
    naa sis only the kaafirs n mushriks
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    Cool Re: Just a question... (Ermmmm..)

    format_quote Originally Posted by Fi_Sabilillah View Post



    The Jahmiyyah sect spread from a man called Jahm ibn Safwan. In regard to Qadr [destiny] - they say that we're under compulsion, and that we don't do anything except that we are forced to do it since it is our destiny.

    Whereas the Ahlus Sunnah know that we also have a freedom of choice in our actions.

    The Jahmiyyah also reject Allaah's Attributes, and they have other faults in their beliefs too that hellfire isn't forever etc. And Allaah knows best.


    huh,

    sorry! I'm now extremely confused, bhai i dun wan be part of Jahmiyyah...

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    Re: Just a question... (Ermmmm..)

    format_quote Originally Posted by Umma Wasat View Post
    huh,

    sorry! I'm now extremely confused, bhai i dun wan be part of Jahmiyyah...

    AsalamuAlaykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh Wa Maghfiratuh - morning 'jus woke up'
    lol the jahmiyyah believe hellfire will end at some point but Allahs said that its for eternity for the disbelievers.

    hellfire wont end in the same way heaven wont end.

    does it make sense now boyn?
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    Cool Re: Just a question... (Ermmmm..)

    format_quote Originally Posted by IbnAbdulHakim View Post
    lol the jahmiyyah believe hellfire will end at some point but Allahs said that its for eternity for the disbelievers.

    hellfire wont end in the same way heaven wont end.

    does it make sense now boyn?

    definately not,

    so hell isn't eternity heaven is eternity cept for disbelievers that are in hell will go to hell for life?

    Man that sucks
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    Re: Just a question... (Ermmmm..)

    format_quote Originally Posted by Umma Wasat View Post

    definately not,

    so hell isn't eternity heaven is eternity cept for disbelievers that are in hell will go to hell for life?

    Man that sucks
    wat :S :S :S
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    Cool Re: Just a question... (Ermmmm..)

    format_quote Originally Posted by IbnAbdulHakim View Post
    wat :S :S :S
    oh soz i think i dint understand did u mean nothing is for eternity? as in heaven and hell will soon die out?
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    Re: Just a question... (Ermmmm..)

    format_quote Originally Posted by Umma Wasat View Post
    oh soz i think i dint understand did u mean nothing is for eternity? as in heaven and hell will soon die out?
    no lol

    i meant that hell is for eternity and so is heaven but just for different people.



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