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  • A: the government is a police state, but the leaders share your relifion

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Who would you rather be ruled by?

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    Who would you rather be ruled by?

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    This came up in another debate and I thought it would be interesting to see what the opinion is around here. Would you rather live in a country ruled by a cruel tyrant of your own religion, or a country ruled by a good leader from another faith? Assuming you have the freedom to practice your religion in either case.

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    Re: Who would you rather be ruled by?

    Well what type of tyranny would there be? I mean if it doesnt effect our faith?
    Who would you rather be ruled by?

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    Re: Who would you rather be ruled by?

    i voted A

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    Re: Who would you rather be ruled by?

    A: the government is a police state, but the leaders share your religion

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    Re: Who would you rather be ruled by?

    Option B. I'd hate to live in a police state.

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    Re: Who would you rather be ruled by?

    format_quote Originally Posted by 3ARABY_2005 View Post
    A: the government is a police state, but the leaders share your religion
    Yea but do they follow it? If they did then they wouldnt be tyrants. So what can make one sure that they follow other parts.
    Who would you rather be ruled by?

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    Re: Who would you rather be ruled by?

    C: A government that respects my rights and freedoms, and also shares the same religion as mine

    that's perfect government for a Muslim

    but since that's not an option in the poll

    i've chosen B:

    A dictator with two pious parents doesn't equal a pious Dictator lol
    Who would you rather be ruled by?

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    Re: Who would you rather be ruled by?

    Could you add another option for agnostics? Neither state appeals to me.
    Who would you rather be ruled by?

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    Re: Who would you rather be ruled by?

    /Peace To All

    I chose "B."

    Reasons:

    1. The Prophet (PBUH), sent Muslims to seek refuge and saftey under a Just Christian King, in ancient Ethiopia.

    2. I believe there is a Hadith which states that it's better to be ruled by a Just non-Muslim than an unjust Muslim, something along that line (I think, but, I don't know the exact wording).

    Having a co-religionist at the head of a government, doesn't guarantee that he'll be a practicing Muslim, nor will he observe Islamic law, or guarantee the rights of Muslims.

    Also, many heads of state are Muslim by name, but are openly hostile to Islam and Muslims.

    Anyway, Islam and a police state, are like oil & water.

    Tyranny, oppression and lack of freedoms/rights go against everything Islam stands for...
    Last edited by Zman; 06-10-2007 at 01:28 AM.

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    Re: Who would you rather be ruled by?

    If those are the only two choices? B. I already live under that. I certainly don't want a police state.

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    Re: Who would you rather be ruled by?

    Canada devolves it's policys from the religion of it's leaders?

    Its not how I read (B)...
    Seems to mean more of a religious state thinggummy?
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    Re: Who would you rather be ruled by?

    Is there different choice? besides those two picks..
    Last edited by Hashim_507; 06-10-2007 at 07:43 AM.
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    Re: Who would you rather be ruled by?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Al Habeshi View Post
    Yea but do they follow it? If they did then they wouldnt be tyrants. So what can make one sure that they follow other parts.
    IF IT'S UR CHOICE BROTHER...U CAN'T LET A NON MUSLIM RULES U..

    THE RULER MUST BE MUSLIM....ISLAM DOESN'T ALLOW US TO CHOOSE A NON MUSLIM RULER ON ISLAMIC LANDS.

    SO ANYWAY...I WILL CHOOSE THE MUSLIM RULER

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    Re: Who would you rather be ruled by?

    why would a country be with all policemen????
    let's make it military country, where everyone is a soldier lollll

    lol just jokin.

    well, myself I would choose none of them. cuz both are "catch one, hit the other".

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    Re: Who would you rather be ruled by?

    Meh I dont know. Well even if the guy is a corrupt Muslim, we always have the option to get rid of him B sounds nice too, but I don't want a non Muslim runnin over me =\. So umm yeaa, can't really decide.
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    Re: Who would you rather be ruled by?

    Just out of curiosity, does anyone wish to nominate someone as an example of a living, non-corrupt Muslim ruler?

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    Re: Who would you rather be ruled by?

    format_quote Originally Posted by 3ARABY_2005 View Post
    IF IT'S UR CHOICE BROTHER...U CAN'T LET A NON MUSLIM RULES U..

    THE RULER MUST BE MUSLIM....ISLAM DOESN'T ALLOW US TO CHOOSE A NON MUSLIM RULER ON ISLAMIC LANDS.

    SO ANYWAY...I WILL CHOOSE THE MUSLIM RULER
    Ah...then the problem is solved. As all "Islamic Lands", at one point, "belonged" to a non-Muslim people so the concept of "Islamic Land" is pointless.

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    Re: Who would you rather be ruled by?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Cognescenti View Post
    Ah...then the problem is solved. As all "Islamic Lands", at one point, "belonged" to a non-Muslim people so the concept of "Islamic Land" is pointless.
    Actually, if I understand correctly, in Islamic law any country that was ever possesed by Muslims remains Islamic land forever. That would include Spain, for example. Interesting implications, huh?

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    Re: Who would you rather be ruled by?

    no country is ruled according to islamic law.
    as for the question, my answer is none of the above.
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    Re: Who would you rather be ruled by?

    format_quote Originally Posted by snakelegs View Post
    no country is ruled according to islamic law.
    as for the question, my answer is none of the above.
    What about the muslim countries?
    Who would you rather be ruled by?

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