What Muslims should protest against … but don’t

[Muslim Knight]

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The last time I post something like this. I'm ashamed that instead of discussing & refuting points you don't agree, you guys just make this look like national heresy.

[glo]

That's a great post, Muslim Knight!

I would go even further and say that people from all backgrounds and faiths should stand together and voice their protest with regards to these matters!
Governments and political and religious leader are going to pay more attention and act quicker, the more people and the more voices they are faced with.

If we as believers focused our energies on making the world a better place - rather than arguing about who is basing which opinion on which holy book - we could achieve much.
God is telling us quite clearly about how we should treat those around us, and how to respond to human suffering and need.
Why argue about out holy books? He has written his laws on our hearts!
("This is the covenant I will make with them after that time, says the Lord. I will put my laws in their hearts, and I will write them on their minds." -Hebrews 10:16)

What I am trying to say is that sometimes we all discuss and ponder too much, but act too little ...

Thank you for your thought-provoking post, brother.

Peace

[NoName55]

for a minute I got confused and thought the article was written by some anti-Muslim Nazi, then I saw the author name... Phew

its an other matter that its almost an exact replica of one from the site that I can't post link to, for posting of anti-Islam sites links is against forum rules

[Philosopher]

Fantastic article!

[Eric H]

Greetings and peace be with you Muslim Knight and thank you for a very good thread, in many ways these values have a greater meaning when we apply them to people who are different to ourselves.

Helping the poor has a greater meaning when we strive to help a whole community of mixed culture and faiths. I support the philosophy of Christian Aid as a charity that helps people of all faiths mainly in the third world. They also work in conjunction with charities of other faith groups for the good of the whole community.

Christian Aid say that people do not have to become Christian to receive aid and I believe this is the right approach. I know that some Christian charities give aid on the condition that people should convert and I believe this is not the right way.

In the spirit of striving for greater interfaith friendships.

Eric

[.:Umniyah:.]

5. Death Fatwas by Religious Authorities. When religious authorities declare death sentences against anyone, Muslims should protest because the Quran only permits the taking of life in case of actual fighting or as a retaliation for murder yet they are silent on the matter.

This is Untrue. You also appoint death to the one who commits adultery, and the one who is a magician and the one who apostates from Islam (after been giving advice and the chance to repent and turn back to their religion), and the one who doesnt pray ( after been giving advice and the chance to repent and turn back to their religion). And then like it says the one who murders. but even with murder you can take blood money and spare his life.

So i dont know where that comes from about only in war and retaliation of murder.

ps. to anyone who doesnt agree with these points that fine, im NOT debating, or posting this to debate, hence leaving NO reason for anyone to reply to this. Im merely correcting the article. Islam isnt about what people think, its about what is Truth and what Allah has ruled. So its for correction purpose, NOT for ' 2 pages of who thinks what'.

[NoName55]

you are not alone sister, I know exactly where this came from and who the original author was (before the approval seekers took it and adopted as their own).

I rated it as terrible as well as pressing the red button, perhaps if a few of us use red button admin will take note and reply to it or delete it or let me loose on it.

[.:Umniyah:.]

Red button it is. And Don't mind it bro if the admin dont pay note to it. You did your part by reporting and trying to stop what you thought was incorrect after that just forget about it. Because all debating does is make you anger and then you start to say and do things you shouldnt, and its just not needed stress. You could use that energy to read something entirely more benefical than what people 'think' they know.

May Allah have mercy on you and me both Ameen.

you are not alone sister, I know exactly where this came from and who the original author was (before the approval seekers took it and adopted as their own).

I rated it as terrible as well as pressing the red button, perhaps if a few of us use red button admin will take note and reply to it or delete it or let me loose on it.

[Eric H]

greetings and peace be with you Umniyah:.;

This is Untrue. You also appoint death to the one who commits adultery,

Jesus makes it extremely hard to stone an adulterer to death’ he said let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

And one by one the accusers walked away starting with the scholars first.

In the spirit of examining our own conscience first.

Eric

[Muslim Knight]

Yeah no. 5 maybe sucked outright, but it can interpreted that death sentence can only be carried out by legitimate Islamic state. Even if a close one apostisize we aren't allowed to take matters into our own hands. If religious authority = legitimate Islamic state then it's fine.

[Malaikah]

I'm curious to see what the original article was!

[.:Umniyah:.]

greetings and peace be with you Umniyah:.;


Jesus makes it extremely hard to stone an adulterer to death’ he said let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

And one by one the accusers walked away starting with the scholars first.

In the spirit of examining our own conscience first.

Eric

Which would be one of the many things to explain why im not christian. And seeing how i dont believe Jesus even said that would be another.

[Bittersteel]

and the one who doesnt pray ( after been giving advice and the chance to repent and turn back to their religion).

says where,the Quran?
a specific verse please.

[Eric H]

Greetings and peace be with you Muslim Knight,

I am sad that you chose to edit your opening post; I thought it was very good and noble. Don’t you wish to stand for any of those qualities that you originally posted; I believe you had some very encouraging feedback.

In the spirit of striving for a greater interfaith friendship

Eric

[czgibson]

Greetings,

It's a shame you've felt it necessary to remove the article. I just googled it and it looks very sensible to me!

Peace

[S_87]

actually i agree with most points just not points 5 and 7. dont know where point 6 is. sometimes ive felt that muslim countries are so striving to follow the west but in what ways? they are leaving out the main important ways like anti racism etc which is infact from Islam.

who was the article written by?

[skhalid]

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The last time I post something like this. I'm ashamed that instead of discussing & refuting points you don't agree, you guys just make this look like national heresy.

sorry.........lol i don't know whta you on about 4give me and make dua for me......

[NoName55]

I agree completely.

Muslim Knight, thanks for posting initially...you seriously shouldn't have felt the need to edit!

yah. especially when it was being approved by so many "friends of ISlam".

Then fundamentalists like me come in and spoil the approval rating for this Godforsaken site, whose ultimate aim seems to be to please the mushrikeen(with the exception of some of the staff).

any distortion half truth and lie is okay as long as it pleases the forerunners of al-Dajjal

[NoName55]

actually i agree with most points just not points 5 and 7. dont know where point 6 is. sometimes ive felt that muslim countries are so striving to follow the west but in what ways? they are leaving out the main important ways like anti racism etc which is infact from Islam.

who was the article written by?

How does something get polluted?

is it alright to accept something that has lies and truth mixed together? then may aswell accept the new testament and o.t as okay too, for those are only partially based on lies and distortion

[Keltoi]

Too bad the article is gone, I have no idea what this discussion is about.

* now I do

Seems very sensible to me. I'm sort of perplexed why some are so outraged by it.