can a brother have a picture of a woman thats not his wife

**julie sarri** · 07-31-2007

i was wondering if there are any hadith's on this subject.can a brother keep a picture of his friends girlfriend who is not wearing hijab.i dont think he is aloud to but i just wanted some evidence or a hadith

**Far7an** · 08-01-2007

Originally Posted by julie sarri

i was wondering if there are any hadith's on this subject.can a brother keep a picture of his friends girlfriend who is not wearing hijab.i dont think he is aloud to but i just wanted some evidence or a hadith

Why on earth would he want to keep a picture of his friend's girlfriend?!

**shev** · 08-01-2007

Originally Posted by Far7an

Why on earth would he want to keep a picture of his friend's girlfriend?!

can't you immagine a stuation of having that photo. for example they have a group photo taken in past and that girl wasn't wearing hijab but now she is wearing and in that photo you have a lot of good friends you don't want to throw it away. but it won't be nice to look at it an show it to other poeple because she is wearing hijap now?? can't it be

**Far7an** · 08-01-2007

Originally Posted by shev

can't you immagine a stuation of having that photo. for example they have a group photo taken in past and that girl wasn't wearing hijab but now she is wearing and in that photo you have a lot of good friends you don't want to throw it away. but it won't be nice to look at it an show it to other poeple because she is wearing hijap now?? can't it be

For starters, I'm sure we all know the rulings on having illegitimate relations with the opposite sex and also on mixed gatherings! I think those two reasons alone should be enough to shred the photo!

**S.A.** · 08-01-2007

Originally Posted by shev

can't you immagine a stuation of having that photo. for example they have a group photo taken in past and that girl wasn't wearing hijab but now she is wearing and in that photo you have a lot of good friends you don't want to throw it away. but it won't be nice to look at it an show it to other poeple because she is wearing hijap now?? can't it be

OK lets get to the point here.

The issues in here are:
Woman is not related i.e. friend's girlfriend
Woman not wearing hijab i.e. beauty exposed to strangers

Iam again trying to explain what i mean. Is there really need for evidence (hadith or quran) here when we know clearly how simple the issue is?

And im sure many users have posted numerous ahadith on 'lowering gaze', 'womans auro', 'womans mahram' and many related posts.

**S.A.** · 08-01-2007

Originally Posted by Iqram

Think of it logically, why on earth would there be a hadeeth specifically on having photos? 1400 years ago there were no photography as it is now, hence it is a controversial subject.

That should be enough as an explanation...You came for an explanation and that's what you got, it's now up to you on what you want to do.

Exactly. Thats wht i meant.

I think the 'moderators' should close the thread now.

**Ummu Sufyaan** · 08-01-2007

no offense to anyone, but just go easy on the sis, she's just asking a question.

**S.A.** · 08-01-2007

Originally Posted by maryam11

no offense to anyone, but just go easy on the sis, she's just asking a question.

I just felt irritated reading that question.

My apologies to julie if i sounded rude.

**Ummu Sufyaan** · 08-01-2007

Originally Posted by S.A.

OK lets get to the point here.

The issues in here are:
Woman is not related i.e. friend's girlfriend
Woman not wearing hijab i.e. beauty exposed to strangers

Iam again trying to explain what i mean. Is there really need for evidence (hadith or quran) here when we know clearly how simple the issue is?

And im sure many users have posted numerous ahadith on 'lowering gaze', 'womans auro', 'womans mahram' and many related posts.

sis, for some people, it anit that simple, some people are really ignorant you maybe surprised (speaking generally here). and its always nice to make sure. and by answering peoples questions, you never know, you maybe encouraging them to ask more. i mean, i personally wouldn't do it/feel comfortable with it.

**S.A.** · 08-01-2007

Originally Posted by maryam11

sis, for some people, it anit that simple, some people are really ignorant you maybe surprised (speaking generally here). and its always nice to make sure. and by answering peoples questions, you never know, you maybe encouraging them to ask more. i mean, i personally wouldn't do it/feel comfortable with it.

Maryam, Julie didnt mean that she didnt know if it was haram/halal (she knows its wrong) but she was asking for some evidence.

Thats when i felt annoyed. Asking evidence for such a simple matter.

**Ummu Sufyaan** · 08-01-2007

Originally Posted by S.A.

Maryam, Julie didnt mean that she didnt know if it was haram/halal (she knows its wrong) but she was asking for some evidence.

Thats when i felt annoyed. Asking evidence for such a simple matter.

rightio, oops. i should read things more carefully. but why would you ask for evidence if you know something is wrong??

**S.A.** · 08-01-2007

Originally Posted by maryam11

rightio, oops. i should read things more carefully. but why would you ask for evidence if you know something is wrong??

Your question is directed to me or Julie?

**Ummu Sufyaan** · 08-01-2007

it was directed at you, but i guess julie could answer it too!!

**S.A.** · 08-01-2007

It seems like things have cooled down.

**Tania** · 08-01-2007

I read here its not permisible to take photos of living persons.

**julie sarri** · 08-01-2007

basically it was my husband who was looking after his friends passport he asked me to look for something where the passports are kept i found his friends passport and there was documents in there belonging to the mans girlfriend one had a picture of her. I asked my husband who got up set and said find some evidence to prove its wrong for him to have it even if he dosent look at it. i was upset becouse if it was me in the picture without hijab and now i wear it i wouldent want any one seeing a picture of me without hijab. this is why i dont post so much every body ends up angry i wont post again lol i didnt want to up set anyone

**rozeena** · 08-01-2007

Originally Posted by julie sarri

basically it was my husband who was looking after his friends passport he asked me to look for something where the passports are kept i found his friends passport and there was documents in there belonging to the mans girlfriend one had a picture of her. I asked my husband who got up set and said find some evidence to prove its wrong for him to have it even if he dosent look at it. i was upset becouse if it was me in the picture without hijab and now i wear it i wouldent want any one seeing a picture of me without hijab. this is why i dont post so much every body ends up angry i wont post again lol i didnt want to up set anyone

no i dnt think u upset any1 sis.

**S.A.** · 08-01-2007

Originally Posted by julie sarri

basically it was my husband who was looking after his friends passport he asked me to look for something where the passports are kept i found his friends passport and there was documents in there belonging to the mans girlfriend one had a picture of her. I asked my husband who got up set and said find some evidence to prove its wrong for him to have it even if he dosent look at it. i was upset becouse if it was me in the picture without hijab and now i wear it i wouldent want any one seeing a picture of me without hijab. this is why i dont post so much every body ends up angry i wont post again lol i didnt want to up set anyone

Julie...u shud have posted this situation in your question. I wasnt upset but i was definitely IRRITATED.

This is what happens when you vaguely ask some question without giving more information.

**piXie** · 08-01-2007

Originally Posted by julie sarri

basically it was my husband who was looking after his friends passport he asked me to look for something where the passports are kept i found his friends passport and there was documents in there belonging to the mans girlfriend one had a picture of her. I asked my husband who got up set and said find some evidence to prove its wrong for him to have it even if he dosent look at it.

Aaaah, got confuseddddd then. the way u asked it was as if the guy was specifically keeping a picture of his friends girlfriend because he was interested in her or something, n that’s obviously not allowed ! rollseye 1 - can a brother have a picture of a woman thats not his wife

rollseye 1 - can a brother have a picture of a woman thats not his wife

so we were thinking

Originally Posted by Far7an

Why on earth would he want to keep a picture of his friend's girlfriend?!

natural reaction rollseye 1 - can a brother have a picture of a woman thats not his wife

Holey crackers, but that’s not th case here sis. The case here is completely different

ur husband is just taking care of his friends documents. Its not like he is concerned with the picture or anything. It doesn’t even belong to him and he doesnt even look at it. Therefore, I wouldn’t advise u to make this a big issue and upset ur husband over it inshaAllah. as that would just annoy and frustrate him. Don’t u think ?

Originally Posted by julie sarri

i was upset becouse if it was me in the picture without hijab and now i wear it i wouldent want any one seeing a picture of me without hijab.

hold up, didnt get tht :confused: Your husbands friends girlfriend has now started wearing Hijaab ? :confused:

**julie sarri** · 08-01-2007

no its my husbands friends girlfriend anyway i think that the best thing is to let it drop it as my husband seemed upset about the issue but thank you anyway for all the help every one gave