anyway guys...there are non-muslims. I wonder what christian have to say about this.
usually the muslims don't attack the non-muslims unless they talk about islam or about 'bumiputera' status.
25:36 And the true servants of the Most Merciful are those who walk the earth with humility and when the ignorant address them, they respond with words of peace.
Hmm...well my feelings are very complex.. I used to be rather anti homosexual.. but then I witnessed a crowd beat one up. And I realised that kind of bigotry is wrong..
I dont think they belong as pastors in churches and should not be married in church. But then I wonder if I am denying the right of a relationship with God through my faith to another person..... I believe that even the worst sinner should not be denied consul with God.. Can I say you can attend church but can not aspire to become clergy? is homosexuality the worst sin, or is it the most un appealling, ununderstandable to heterosexuals? Why should homosexuals be looked down on and killed and beaten, and banned from religion while murderers and thieves are not? isnt it a worse sin to hurt someone else?
I don't know, I dont want gay people running mainsteam church.. but if some gay guy thinks he can run his own church for other gay people why not? He is not following my religion as I understand it, but there are so many break away churches and sects within christianity there is little I can do or say about it..
But he is not living right now in Malaysia. Its from New York, so its kind of imported.
Before he held the first service in Malaysia, he was being interviewed by The Star... he said that he want to establish the church on Malaysian soil within 3 years time....
And on his first service last Sunday, 100 people attended.
Was it Islamic in the first place anyways? Is Malaysia a Muslim country anyways?
FACT: Malaysia is a Muslim-majority country.
CLAIMS:
* Barisan Nasional (Nationalists): "Malaysia is an Islamic country."
* PAS (Islamists): "Malaysia is a secular country."
* DAP (Socialists): "Malaysia is leaving secularism and becoming Islamic country"
Malaysia to Block Planned Gay Church
Monday, 13th August 2007.
Muslim-majority Malaysia will block a plan by the country's first and only openly gay pastor to establish a church embracing homosexuals, bisexuals and transsexual, a minister said Monday.
KUALA LUMPUR (AFP) - Reverend Ouyang Wen Feng, an ethnic Chinese Malaysian ordained in the US, caused controversy after saying he wanted to set up the church by 2010.
The government would block the plan, Tourism Minister Adnan Tengku Mansor told AFP, adding the country had always sought to potray itself as a "family-oriented" holiday destination.
"We have no intention of being potrayed the same way like other cities such as Bangkok or those cities in that league," Mansor said, apparently referring to the Thai capital's sex industry.
"We are here to be seen as a multicultural country with people who are good, excellent followers of their respective religions," Mansor added.
Homosexuality falls under a Malaysian law prohibiting sodomy, which is punishable by up to 20 years in prison and whipping.
Ouyang's plan to start the church had stirred anxiety, Reverend Wong Kin Kong, the secretary general of Malaysia's National Evangelical Christian Fellowship, said last week.
This was "because Christians do not want others to assume they condone such a thing," he said.
But Ouyang remained unfazed and urged a congregation of about 80 people -- including his male partner -- to "reclaim faith and celebrate our sexuality" in an underground mass Sunday.
"For some of us, especially our Christian gay brothers and sisters, we have expererienced first hand that Christianity has been used to persecute minorities," Ouyang told the mass, according to press reports. - AFP
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a church for benders...?
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