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    this question always comes to my mind

    does Islam consider christens kafroon or non believers because they don't believe in the prophet Mohammad (SAAW) and the quran?

    and do they all go to hell even the ones who spent their lives worshiping God ?

    please I need an asnwer to my question

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    Re: are christians Kafroon ?

    Can you explain what kafroon means?
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    Re: are christians Kafroon ?

    Kafiroon means disbelievers, the ones who reject the faith (islam), the ones who deny the message (islam) and so on Simply, it means non-muslims.
    Last edited by Brasco; 08-08-2009 at 04:20 PM.
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    Re: are christians Kafroon ?

    Brasco

    thanks for explaining,


    Glo
    read brasco's reply he explained it


    thank you guys for passing by

    I am still waiting for the answer =(
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    Re: are christians Kafroon ?

    Danke, Brasco.
    I didn't recognise the 'kafir' bit, otherwise I might have realised.

    Kafir = non-believer, is that right?
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    Re: are christians Kafroon ?

    format_quote Originally Posted by mariam521 View Post
    Brasco

    thanks for explaining,


    Glo
    read brasco's reply he explained it


    thank you guys for passing by

    I am still waiting for the answer =(
    I got confused, because I understood that you were asking whether Christians were considered kafirs or non-believers ...
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    Re: are christians Kafroon ?

    format_quote Originally Posted by glo View Post
    Danke, Brasco.
    I didn't recognise the 'kafir' bit, otherwise I might have realised.

    Kafir = non-believer, is that right?
    sorry I didn't write the word correctly

    my apologies
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    Re: are christians Kafroon ?

    format_quote Originally Posted by glo View Post
    I got confused, because I understood that you were asking whether Christians were considered kafirs or non-believers ...
    and I should have said kafirs (non-believers)

    sorry , this is my first topic ^-^
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    Re: are christians Kafroon ?

    Everyone who rejects Islam, Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, is a Kafir.
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    Re: are christians Kafroon ?

    After the knowledge of Islam has come to them and they reject it willingly, they are kafir. Correct me if I'm wrong InshaAllah.

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    Re: are christians Kafroon ?

    There are three types of Kuffar: 1- Dhimmis (people of the book) who live in an islamic state with restricted rights. 2 - Harbis, these are the enemies of islam. and they have no rights! 3 - Mustamins, people who get temporally a contract being like Dhimmis

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    Re: are christians Kafroon ?

    format_quote Originally Posted by mariam521 View Post

    this question always comes to my mind

    does Islam consider christens kafroon or non believers because they don't believe in the prophet Mohammad (SAAW) and the quran?

    and do they all go to hell even the ones who spent their lives worshiping God ?

    please I need an asnwer to my question

    Regards
    Salam aleykum. According to Quran those who claim the trinity are kafiroon. Are the non-trinitarian christians also kafiroon? I don't know very well..I also don't know wheter they go hell or heaven..
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    Re: are christians Kafroon ?

    format_quote Originally Posted by glo View Post
    Danke, Brasco.
    I didn't recognise the 'kafir' bit, otherwise I might have realised.

    Kafir = non-believer, is that right?
    Kafiroon is the plural form of kafir in Arabic.
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    Re: are christians Kafroon ?

    the only religion with allah ta'ala is al islam! so it means all will go hell except the one whose religion is al islam (of course behaving also in an islamic way)
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    Re: are christians Kafroon ?

    Christians are mushriks.. just as bad as a kaffir
    kaffir means to deny the existence of Allah, Mushrik means associating partners with him, which is what Christians do when they make Jesus and the holy spirits into god along with Allah
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    Assalam aleykoum sisters and brothers,


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    format_quote Originally Posted by Gossamer skye View Post

    ..kaffir means to deny the existence of Allah,
    So , kaffir and Atheists have same meaning ?

    Anyway for all , we must remember that among non-Muslims , Jews and Christians are regarded as people of the holy book .

    Made lawful to you this day are AtTayyibat (all kinds of Halal (lawful) foods, which Allah has made lawful (meat of slaughtered eatable animals, etc., milk products, fats, vegetables and fruits, etc.).

    The food (slaughtered cattle, eatable animals, etc.) of the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) is lawful to you and yours is lawful to them. (Lawful to you in marriage) are chaste women from the believers and chaste women from those who were given the Scripture (Jews and Christians) before your time, when you have given their due Mahr (bridal money given by the husband to his wife at the time of marriage), desiring chastity (i.e. taking them in legal wedlock) not committing illegal sexual intercourse, nor taking them as girl-friends.

    And whosoever disbelieves in the Oneness of Allah and in all the other Articles of Faith (i.e. His (Allahs), Angels, His Holy Books, His Messengers, the Day of Resurrection and AlQadar (Divine Preordainments)), then fruitless is his work, and in the Hereafter he will be among the losers.


    ( سورة المائدة , Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #5)
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    format_quote Originally Posted by thetruth2009 View Post
    because I will see my messages deleted again.

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    O bro , don't be sad. It's happening to many of us all the time
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    Al salamoo Alekom all brothers and sisters...
    I blv that as you've all said that non muslims all do not go to heaven but those who do good deeds and pray to god in life who are non muslims Allah grants them joy and pays them in life for such good deeds since after all Allah is merciful ... peace to you all
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    Re: are christians Kafroon ?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Muslim Woman View Post




    So , kaffir and Atheists have same meaning ?

    Anyway for all , we must remember that among non-Muslims , Jews and Christians are regarded as people of the holy book .

    Made lawful to you this day are AtTayyibat (all kinds of Halal (lawful) foods, which Allah has made lawful (meat of slaughtered eatable animals, etc., milk products, fats, vegetables and fruits, etc.).

    The food (slaughtered cattle, eatable animals, etc.) of the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) is lawful to you and yours is lawful to them. (Lawful to you in marriage) are chaste women from the believers and chaste women from those who were given the Scripture (Jews and Christians) before your time, when you have given their due Mahr (bridal money given by the husband to his wife at the time of marriage), desiring chastity (i.e. taking them in legal wedlock) not committing illegal sexual intercourse, nor taking them as girl-friends.

    And whosoever disbelieves in the Oneness of Allah and in all the other Articles of Faith (i.e. His (Allahs), Angels, His Holy Books, His Messengers, the Day of Resurrection and AlQadar (Divine Preordainments)), then fruitless is his work, and in the Hereafter he will be among the losers.


    ( سورة المائدة , Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #5)

    excellent post.. there are different levels of kufr, just like there are different forms of shirk..
    many Muslims commit at times what we call shirk asghar .. when they say for instance 'sydna mursai abu il3abas' a founder of some town in Alexandria, or ya Ali or ya Hussain, to call upon any other than Allah.. also there are certain bida3 that go into the category of shirk.. talisamans and what nots...

    same for kuffr, I imagine the ultimate kufr is atheism but certainly you can have that in Judaism, christianity, hinduism, etc


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