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    In some Muslim countries, some scholars suddenly declare that they have become peers. The public in general then believe that the peer is dear and near to Allah and he is able to do any good or harm for his disciples by exerting his influence on Allah. Many even believe that a peer's pleasure means Allah's pleasure. So they go to such peer named satanic scholars and pay them money to buy Allah's grace and favour through him.

    Therefore all the peers are great satans, who trade in shirk.

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    Re: Peers Thrives on Shirk

    format_quote Originally Posted by M H Kahn View Post
    In some Muslim countries, some scholars suddenly declare that they have become peers. The public in general then believe that the peer is dear and near to Allah and he is able to do any good or harm for his disciples by exerting his influence on Allah. Many even believe that a peer's pleasure means Allah's pleasure. So they go to such peer named satanic scholars and pay them money to buy Allah's grace and favour through him.

    Therefore all the peers are great satans, who trade in shirk.

    I believe this kind of peer found in India, Bangladesh, and Pakistan most. My family with me (very early age of mine) attached to one of this Peer (May Allah Grant forgiveness to my family and me). People use to go to them for their Salvations (Nauzubillah) People not cry to Allah first but go to their respected Peer for help (Shirk). People Believe they can do miracle (Shirk). People believe they can tell the future (Shirk). People give them money as they want to buy their salvations (Nauzubillah).
    I have so many things to say. They are blinding people for to earn money nothing else. May Allah Save these poor people.
    Summa Alhamdulillah I get rid of this dirt also makes my family and relative get rid of it.
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    Re: Peers Thrives on Shirk

    ^Alhumdulillah brother.

    Sadly there's still too many people caught up in these false beliefs.

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    Re: Peers Thrives on Shirk

    Assalamu Alaikum

    its alright to seek the dua's of someone you hold to be righteous, but to think he knows the unseen and whatnot....

    Allah explicitly has told us that no one but him knows al-ghayb! (the unseen)
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    ^ True.

    Sadly some people believe that Allah only accepts the duaas of a 'peer' and that's not just in his lifetime but they also go to 'peers' graves and ask the dead peer to pray for them - or grant their wishes, na' udhu billah

    And what about the shrines they build for them?

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    Re: Peers Thrives on Shirk

    format_quote Originally Posted by Muslimah_Sis View Post
    ^ True.

    Sadly some people believe that Allah only accepts the duaas of a 'peer' and that's not just in his lifetime but they also go to 'peers' graves and ask the dead peer to pray for them - or grant their wishes, na' udhu billah

    And what about the shrines they build for them?


    Shirk

    May Allah Save these poor people.

    17(Al-Isra [Isra, The Night Journey, Children of Israel])

    72 But those who were blind in this world, will be blind in the hereafter, and most astray from the Path.

    81 And say: "Truth has (now) arrived, and Falsehood perished: for Falsehood is (by its nature) bound to perish."
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    I believe this kind of peer found in India, Bangladesh, and Pakistan most. My family with me (very early age of mine) attached to one of this Peer (May Allah Grant forgiveness to my family and me). People use to go to them for their Salvations (Nauzubillah) People not cry to Allah first but go to their respected Peer for help (Shirk). People Believe they can do miracle (Shirk). People believe they can tell the future (Shirk). People give them money as they want to buy their salvations (Nauzubillah).
    Well described! May Allah guide us to the right path!
    "And set not up with Allah any other god, lest thou be cast into hell, reproved, abandoned."[17:39]

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    Re: Peers Thrives on Shirk

    Your not supposed to build shrines. The Prophets(Saw) grave is sooooooooo plain, who is greater than the Rasool(saw)?

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    sooo truu wit the peers mostly in asian countries omgg..when i was younger i went with my parents to bangladesh in the peer's place ..alhamdullah from a young age they would freak me out..nd you pay them i argued with my family that it's not rite and my brothers to this day argue with my uncles because they are big believers on that..It's shirk..my mom used to be like he'z the messenger between allah and us the peer.. now i'm grown up i'm like why do we need a person in the middle when we can directly talk to Allah subhana wa taalaa
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    Re: Peers Thrives on Shirk

    ^na udhu billah! yeh why don't people think that if we can pray salah directly to Allah then why can't we make duaa directly to Him without anyone interceding on our behalf. Grrr!

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    Re: Peers Thrives on Shirk

    It's like what Christians do with their priests and all. Whats the difference between them when u do such a thing. Na audhubillah. Alhamdulillah my family knows its wrong. But ya Asian countries...its common =/

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    ^Does it happen in the middle east as well? I thought it was just in Pak & India?

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    Re: Peers Thrives on Shirk

    Are you talking to me? lol cuz i dunno xD Im just referrin to like paki, india and all.

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    sadly this is common here in uk, leicester

    - few days back I read a few pages of my little brothers 'islam denyiat' from his madressa, and it said that people should mension the names of 'peers' in their duas to earn Allahs blessing,
    they should also visit the shrines and pray their so that they can ask Allah for whatever they want (astagfirrulah so shocking)

    this was from the imam ahmed razah academy in south africa

    some freaky stuff!
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    Re: Peers Thrives on Shirk

    format_quote Originally Posted by Jazzy View Post
    Are you talking to me? lol cuz i dunno xD Im just referrin to like paki, india and all.
    nahhhhh I'm only talking to meself!

    lol I was just asking anyone..


    sadly this is common here in uk, leicester

    - few days back I read a few pages of my little brothers 'islam denyiat' from his madressa, and it said that people should mension the names of 'peers' in their duas to earn Allahs blessing,
    they should also visit the shrines and pray their so that they can ask Allah for whatever they want (astagfirrulah so shocking)

    this was from the imam ahmed razah academy in south africa
    whao tawba! I think your brother should change mosques ASAP!

    Can anyone believe this? I heard people say that they have PERMISSION from their peer to do zikr!!!! Unbelievable!

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    Ye it's so messed up..but some people don't know about the fact that it is rong so people have to let them know..if you know and do it then that's just sadd.nd i don't knw how ppl can go to them..dey luk so sick too mee ewww
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Souljette View Post
    sooo truu wit the peers mostly in asian countries omgg..when i was younger i went with my parents to bangladesh in the peer's place ..alhamdullah from a young age they would freak me out..nd you pay them i argued with my family that it's not rite and my brothers to this day argue with my uncles because they are big believers on that..It's shirk..my mom used to be like he'z the messenger between allah and us the peer.. now i'm grown up i'm like why do we need a person in the middle when we can directly talk to Allah subhana wa taalaa
    So basically there is no difference between a Bangladshi or Pakistani or Indian peer and the Feraun of the old, because the peers imply that they are a bridge between people and Allah. Thus all peers, despite all their saintly appearance and showy dedication for Islam, are traders in shirk and most detestable animals.

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    I heard this peer thing started in India when ignorant muslims started to imitate the hindus who asked pundits and swamis to pray for them etc. I can see the link.

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    I wouldnt be so Quick in Judgment of anybody , Be sure who exactly you are calling Satanic peers and who exactly u are calling Mushrik , cause if you are mistaken , you have a lot to go Answer for .

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    Hadeeth 38 : The Worship of Allaah is the Means of Attaining Nearness to Him and His Love
    (d. 676 AH / 1299 CE)


    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    On the authority of Abu Hurairah (radiAllaahu anhu) who said : The Messenger of Allaah (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) said :

    Verily Allaah ta'aalaa has said : Whosoever shows enmity to a walee (friend) of Mine, then I have declared war against him. And My servant does not draw near to Me with anything more loved to Me than the religious duties I have obligated upon him. And My servant continues to draw near to me with nawaafil (supererogatory) deeds until I Love him. When I Love him, I am his hearing with which he hears, and his sight with which he sees, and his hand with which he strikes, and his foot with which he walks. Were he to ask [something] of Me, I would surely give it to him; and were he to seek refuge with Me, I would surely grant him refuge.


    It was related by al-Bukhaaree


    Explanation of Hadeeth Number 38 :
    The author of al-Ifsaah said about this hadeeth from its understanding : Verily Allaah subhaanahu wa ta'aalaa has put aside all excuses from the one who shows enmity to a walee of His, and has declared that He shall War against him with the same enmity. And the walee of Allaah ta'aalaa is the one who follows that which Allaah has legislated. So let mankind be warned against harming the hearts of the awliyaa of Allaah, 'azza wa jall.
    And I consider the meaning [of this hadeeth] as referring to the one who shows enmity to a walee due to the Friendship and Allegiance (Wilaayah) shown to him by Allaah. On the other hand, if the matter is such that it involves a dispute between two walees of Allaah in the form of a legal dispute or a quarrel, which is due to one of them trying to attain a right of his that is hidden from the other, then this does not enter into this hadeeth. And such disputes have occurred between Abu Bakr and 'Umar (radiAllaahu anhumaa), and between al-'Abbaas and 'Alee (radiAllaahu anhumaa), and similarly between many of the sahaabah, and all of them were awliyaa of Allaah.

    And His - subhaanahu wa ta'aalaa - statement "And My servant does not draw near to Me with anything more loved to Me than the religious duties I have obligated upon him" contains a reference to the fact that we do not place the voluntary deeds (nawaafil) before the obligatory (faraa'id). And the 'nawaafil' are named as such because they are performed after the obligatory deeds have been completed; and if not then they are not given the name 'nawaafil'; and this is indicated by His statement "And My servant continues to draw near to me with nawaafil (supererogatory) deeds until I Love him", since attaining Nearness with the nawaafil occurs by what follows the completion of the faraa'id. So when the slave becomes persistent in seeking His Nearness through the nawaafil, then this causes Allaah 'azza wa jall to Love him.

    Then He said "When I Love him, I am his hearing with which he hears, and his sight with which he sees" until the end of the hadeeth. Then this is a sign of the Wilaayah of Allaah, and its meaning is that he does not hear that which is not permitted for him to hear by the Sharee'ah, nor does he see that which is not permitted by the Sharee'ah, nor does he grasp with his hand that which is not permitted for him by the Sharee'ah, nor does he hasten with his legs towards anything except that which the Sharee'ah allows him to hasten towards. And all of this is the basis (asl) [of being Loved by Allaah]. But also, the Worshipper of Allaah may become so engrossed in the Dhikr of Allaah ta'aalaa that he becomes famous for that, and if another person, who is not from amongst those who Remember Allaah much, were to speak to him without mentioning the Dhikr of Allaah, then it would be as though he did not hear him; until the speaker approaches him with something from the Dhikr of Allaah. And similarly in the case of those things which are seen, and those things which are grasped, and those things towards which one walks. And this is a most noble characteristic, and we ask Allaah that He makes us from amongst its possessors.

    And His statement "and were he to seek refuge with Me, I would surely grant him refuge" shows that even after the slave becomes from amongst the Beloved of Allaah, this does not prevent him from asking his Lord to satisfy his needs or seeking refuge in Him from those whom he fears. And Allaah ta'aalaa is able to give him what he desires before his asking Him for them, and to grant him refuge before he seeks it, but He subhaanahu becomes Near to His slaves through His giving those who ask Him, and His granting refuge to those who seek it from Him.

    And Allaah knows best.

    Summary :
    That there are Muslims who are the Awliyaa (Friends) of Allaah
    That one who is close to Allaah because of his piety and worship of Him, has Allaah as his Protector
    That whoever makes a walee an enemy, actually earns the enmity of Allaah for himself
    That one draws closer to Allaah by following the Sharee'ah, and by fulfilling the obligatory duties upon him
    That a Muslim continues to draw closer to Him by performing voluntary acts of worship (nawaafil)
    That ways and means not prescribed in the Sunnah will not help us in drawing closer to Allaah
    That when a servant draws closer to Him, then Allaah Loves him, and then guides him in each moment of his life
    an-Nawawi said that "I am his hearing ..." can mean "I safeguard his hearing from shaytaan"
    That when a servant is Loved by Allaah, He fulfills his du'aa, and protects him from evil when he asks Him to do so
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    All tht is fine and all but have you ever met peers by anychance..by just lukin at them you'll know sumthings up wit them..they take money from the people and then they put their hand on their head or wherever and strt sayin stuff nd dey lukk sooo weirdd..the guy i went to .his nails wer longggggg and they say he dint hv a stomach..nd i dnt knw how tru tht was bt he luked realll weirdd...these ppl who go to peers ask them to make du'a for them nd pay them as well nd tis is rng..it's shirk whn u take some1 as a messenger between u nd Allah we all ask ppl to make du'a bt dey dnt bcum messengers..whn sum1 does sumthng extraodinary in these asian countries dey bcum peers
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