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The best thing about Nostradamus is that the chap's predictions were so vague, one can safely project whatever interpretation one desires onto them.

Which is another way of saying they predict nothing at all.

And regardless of their accuracy or lack thereof, why would a Muslim, knowing Islam's stand on soothsayers, take such ramblings seriously?

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All movies are NOT intended for that purpose, ofcourse...
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Funny how the only way one can tell the alleged intended purpose is after the fact.

But producers/directors etc who are part of "Freemasons/Illuminati" etc, they play with our psychology...... when we are made aware of an upcomming event beforehand as "a harmless event", subconsciously, our response to that event becomes friendly & less hostile.
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Conveniently, because members of the 'Freemasons/Illuminati' often keep their membership secret, a sufficiently zealous conspiracy theorist can retroactively dub a given person a Freemason when through sheer coincidence, real life happens to resemble an existing Hollywood movie that person happened to direct or produce.

I mean, seriously, where do these fallacies end? One could just as easily argue that the Die Hard Trilogy, as a unit, 'predicted' 9/11!

Die Hard 1 - Terrorists in a skyscraper

Die Hard 2 - Terrorists on a plane

Die Hard 3 - Terrorists in New York

Uncanny!
 
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Muezzin said:
The best thing about Nostradamus is that the chap's predictions were so vague, one can safely project whatever interpretation one desires onto them.
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for example, can u try to come up with "another" interpretation of Nostra's writings in my post# 18..... Try it.

And regardless of their accuracy or lack thereof, why would a Muslim, knowing Islam's stand on soothsayers, take such ramblings seriously?
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Hadees says if anyone goes to soothsayer his prayers will NOT be accepted for 40 days...... But do u watch weather on TV...!!! They are predicting future.... When doctor tells a cancer patient he's got only 6 months left, doc is predicting future...!!! Such kind of predictions don't count as "Going to soothsayers"..... That when u go to them asking about ur future by palmistry/astrology etc....

If u read preface of Nostra. u'll see that he used to see "dreams", Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) said that revelation will stop after him but guidence will continue thru dreams......

Another thing in his preface is that he addressed GOD, as "GOD the Almighty", "God the Eternal", "God the Creator" etc. so it looks like that despite being a christian he beleived in ONE true God(unitarian christian). Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) said dream of a true beleiver is a part(i think 50th part!!!) of revelation.....

Funny how the only way one can tell the alleged intended purpose is after the fact.
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I have done "istikhara" many times. Except for couple of times I always saw a dream after istikhara. Initially I couldn't interpret dream until event actually happened. So there's nothing wrong with realising true meaning of prediction after the actual event. But I learned from my mistakes & later I was able to interpret my dreams better.

So if we couldn't pick up on previous warnings until after event happened, does that mean we should ignore current warnings too??? Learning from "Modus Operandi" of evil forces of world, we should improve & try to fail them. In USS-Liberty attack plan was to blame it on Egypt(?), but when Russians witnessed the attack & so plan was exposed, thus US/Israel plan failed.... That's why I said in my post that nuclear-false-flag would never happen, InshALLAH, coz the plan is being exposed before-hand by many.


One could just as easily argue that the Die Hard Trilogy
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I haven't seen diehard so can't comment on that...
 
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So if we couldn't pick up on previous warnings until after event happened, does that mean we should ignore current warnings too??? Learning from "Modus Operandi" of evil forces of world, we should improve & try to fail them.
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It is absurd to argue that the Hollywood movie industry functions as this kind of forewarning. That industry simply does not work that way. It is a commercial enterprise, not philanthropy.
 
I told u about a nuke missing out of 6 loaded at Minot Airbase....

Some soldiers involved in loading/handling those nukes at either Minot or Barksdale Airbases died... "accidently"...

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1-Todd Blue - Minot AFB(Airforce Base)
2-a married couple from Barksdale Airbase(Names not released)
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4-Stephen Garrett - Minot AFB
5-Weston Kissel - Minot AFB
6-John Frueh
7-Jonathan Bayless - Minot AFB (Video)
8-Thomas L. Tinsley - Alleged of breach in following the standards while handling nukes.


All died/went missing within a narrow time-period after incidence of nuclear-cruise-missiles-accidently-flown.....

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What is this topic about exactly? Sorry I'm just confused...
 
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it's about the event that's going to occur in the solar system in the year 2012, people are saying that event is going to cause some changes on the Earth, I don't see it as sooth saying, it's like predicting the weather based upon scientific evidence.
 
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it's about the event that's going to occur in the solar system in the year 2012, people are saying that event is going to cause some changes on the Earth, I don't see it as sooth saying, it's like predicting the weather based upon scientific evidence.
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Ah I see thanks...
 
Actually this thread is about 2 things

1st- to point out that "they" r planning another "False-Flag" in 2012, much disastorous than 911


2nd-"Ghazwa-e-Hind" is imminant, probably taking place around 2022...
 
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sur said:
Actually this thread is about 2 things

1st- to point out that "they" r planning another "False-Flag" in 2012, much disastorous than 911
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I think Israel will wage war against some Islamic countries with unseen weapons... I heard it in one of Sheikh Imran Hosein's lectures
 
^ Allah hu alam whether they will or not we can only speculate on what we thinks gonna happen.

I think there's going to be a 1 world government that rules from Israel :p but only Allah knows it that'll happen.
 
Do you all remember in 1999 when everyone was in a state of panic about the millenimum bug? and how all the world computers would fall over because it couldn't handle the date..

and can anyone remind me what ACTUALLY happend?

Exactly, nothing.

While I possibly believe in 2012, there will be a galatic aligenment and they may be changes to the earth, I don't for a minute think it will be the end of the world or human kind.

Edited to say: If you live in the uk, you will surely noticed certain changes, for example we've not had a summer, i mean a proper british summer for two years AND London and the South East Coast are getting worse snow storms. That is definite change.
 
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i say the climate will change dramatically but thats about it lol you know they just made a movie about it. they made this rubbish up so they can make there millions
 
Yeah people have been going on about 2012 for years, i'm not suprised they made a film out of it.

Anything to make money :p
 
mystical_moon said:
Do you all remember in 1999 when everyone was in a state of panic about the millenimum bug? and how all the world computers would fall over because it couldn't handle the date..

and can anyone remind me what ACTUALLY happend?

Exactly, nothing.

While I possibly believe in 2012, there will be a galatic aligenment and they may be changes to the earth, I don't for a minute think it will be the end of the world or human kind.

Edited to say: If you live in the uk, you will surely noticed certain changes, for example we've not had a summer, i mean a proper british summer for two years AND London and the South East Coast are getting worse snow storms. That is definite change.
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I think it goes against the belief of any Muslim that the world will end in 2012 cos the knowledge of when the world will end is only with Allah,

but perhaps some changes will occur on the earth due to the galatic allignment
 
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.....Obama pointed to such an attack by bomb made by Pakistani scientist & ppl trained in Karachi.... in his Berlin speech, watch this video from minute:9:30.
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(Some of following is taken from Zaid Hamid's interview)


""The Madina-e-Sani"(2nd Madina) i.e., Pak-istan whose name is litteral translation of Madida Tay'yibah is being targetted.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpFaUdgxT6U&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsFv4-vj_go&feature=related

here's the Obama's speach that Webster Tarpley talked about in 1st video
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Muslims from Makkah migrated to Madina Tay'yibah & with muslims already present in Madina tay'yibah, they established strong hold there..... Muslims from India migrated to Madina-e-sani (Pak-istan) & with muslims already there they established a strong & now-nuclear state that has survived strong conpiracies eversince.... Israel's 1st prime minister Ben Gurion said that they were NOT afraid of Arabs, they had actual threat from Pak-istan & that they should use every secret means to conspire against pak-istan....


Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) said that help from EAST will come to help Eesa(Jesus) against jews...... Prophet told about Ghazwa-e-Hind too, (a muslim army defeating India) & that same army will return to join Eesa(pbuh) in Syria.....


Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) faught many wars from Madina Tay'yibah with kuffar of Makkah.... None was decisive.... Then Prophet became aware of fact that Jews in Khaibar were the source of power for the Quraish of Makkah.... Khaibar's jews were good at manufacturing weaponary & were the provocators & suppliers of Quraish-e-Makkah..... So Prophet decided to uproot the powerhub & sent troops to eradicate Khaiber..... When Khaiber was eradicated, Makkah was conquered without a fight....


Now it's about time that army from Madina-e-Sani take up land-of-idolatorers & also eradicate their provocators & power-sources....

 
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Still sleeping or living in fantacy world....!!!

Better wake up..... Especially, muslims living in india.....

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKnx3HDmt1I[/media]
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parts go on till 15


You might also wanna refresh this memory... Hindus beating muslims students after Mumbai drama...
 
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sur said:
Still sleeping or living in fantacy world....!!!

Better wake up..... Especially, muslims living in india.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKnx3HDmt1I
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parts go on till 15


You might also wanna refresh this memory... Hindus beating muslims students after Mumbai drama...
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Just got finished watching these videos:cry::cry:.......:raging::raging:

Let me tell you something......That would have turned out a little different had I showed up with a Fully auto 50. cal !:raging:

Thats discusting!+o( I know violence is not the answer but.......sometimes....I just want to ....never mind

I'm sorry this has happenedimsad I can't believe no one did anything!?!? They just watched:hmm: How could they do that!?!?!?!

I would have just jumped on top of the one being beat'n (to cover them) at least if they killed me , maybe..... just maybe.... that Muslim would have lived:cry:

.......I'm sorryimsad I wasn't there:cry:
 

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