300 Muslim Tsunami Orphans to be Christianized: Report

[NEM]

Is it?

Well, whoever forces one to revert to Islam, that is not Islam.

When Jerusalem was captured, nobody was forced to become muslims.

Allah also states in the Quraan:

"There is no compulsion in religion" 2:256

In acts of "True Freedom" there is "no act" of compulsion ~ Only a perfect
belief in following the right way accordin to the Almighty Man who is a blessed Father to all of His own faithfully beloved Children.

 

[afriend]

He is not our father!

Come on, be rational.......How can you call him father?

 

[Umar001]

I dont get it, whos forcing the children?? i mean the children are choosin right?

 

[NEM]

He is not our father!

Come on, be rational.......How can you call him father?

Redeemed Family Heirachy lesson:

The Almighty Father he Created this Idea that ~
His Son would be accepted as the Final sacrifice as was foretold for generations beforehand.
Those who are swift enough to grasp the Truth - get more blessings than the rest in the way of uninteruptible understandings.
We who have accepted His Son in the way of His Father - Now become
faithfully reedemed Brothers and Sisters reedemed of the Almighty Father.

We Inherit all along with his Son at the end of the way of the unbelieving world. Just after that - His Father recreates the Earth as it was In the Beginning.
Minus the Unbelievers of his Son who was living through his own sanctified mission for his Father.
Praise his Father in the Highest. What a family! Perfect Judgement of the Perfect Man. I will not be a woman about this Truth - and not to any Loving Brother or Sister.
Essentially - one who will not trust in the Son of the Father is without true Brothers and Sisters according to his Father.

In a nutshell...

 

[Fishman]

I dont get it, whos forcing the children?? i mean the children are choosin right?

The children aren't choosing.

 

[NEM]

I dont get it, whos forcing the children?? i mean the children are choosin right?

In this day!
Almighty Man does not force a single soul backwards.
Only a spiritual angel of unholyness would attempt such a thing.
In any event ~ you are promised everthing in perfect order when you follow Almighty Man on the remainding part of his mission on Earth - No matter what an unholy angel puts before you in your way to freedom of purpose with your Holy family.

I gotta Love this path were are on or I'd might fall off of a cliff without a hope of Heaven to guide me to a Peaceful rest at the end of my destined path to fulfillment

 

[afriend]

Are you a priest?

You sound very knowledgeable in the field of christianity.

 

[NEM]

Are you a priest?

You sound very knowledgeable in the field of christianity.

No.
Redeemed Brother of His Holy family is what ~ I Am.

 

[snakelegs]

Speaking for myself. I never had even one Muslim ever ask me to revert or to even encourage me to revert, prior to my reverting.

nope - me either. i've never had a muslim come to my door and try to put their religion in my face.

 

[afriend]

nope - me either. i've never had a muslim come to my door and try to put their religion in my face.

lol.....Good point ;D

 

[MRR]

I don't see the problem. The missionaries are giving food, clothing, and spiritual counselling. Would you all prefer that the people were left to starve? Better to starve than be helped by a christian? I know, I know, someone here is going to say "they are forcing the religion on them in exchange for food", but clearly the article does not say that. It says they are offering the counselling, not forcing it.
As far as the children go, they are being given the chance at a home, albeit a christian home. Would it be better to remain orphans? Better an orphan than go to a christian home?
Personally, I think it is good that they get to go to a home no matter if christian, muslim, buddist, hindu or athiest. At least they get a chance in life.

Get them while they young.

Muslims don't do this? You mean you don't raise your children in islam? So no children are in mosques? You wait until they are adults and then introduce them to islam?

Poor kids. May allah swt protect these little innocent kids insha allah. Its so hard for them to differentiate what these socalled helpers want. Similar exploits have been proven succesful in several poor countries.

Where are the muslim socalled helpers?

If muslims are so concerned where are the muslim aid groups?

 

[nimrod]

Iqram, I will not respond to this “Well, whoever forces one to revert to Islam, that is not Islam” other than to say, you are not being truthful.

What is Islam’s prescribed punishment for those who abandon Islam? To be given the choice of death or reversion is about as forceful as it gets.

That is what surprised me so much when I read Woodrow’s reply “Speaking for myself. I never had even one Muslim ever ask me to revert or to even encourage me to revert, prior to my reverting”. Surely those Muslims weren’t practicing true Islam.

The truth is what it is. Anything less than that, it is just flapping your gums.

Thanks
Nimrod

 

[nimrod]

Kadafi “Another deceiveful tactic of the missionaries exploited”.

I assume that you mean “deceitful” or maybe you mean “deceptive”?

What I find deceitful, and deceptive, is the linking of this Christian group to “human traffickers” and all the bad things that name implies.

The web-site you cited is so deceitful that they committed the link a second time, just in case the slow folks didn’t make the connection on the first page.

Second page

http://www.islamonline.net/English/News/2005-01/06/article04.shtml

Gospel for Asia, a group seeking to train and send 100,000 native missionaries into the most unreached areas of Asia, was among the first on the scene of the tsunami disaster in India and Sri Lanka.
According to its Web site, GFA’s volunteers are working around the clock to bring food, clean water, medicines, clothing, shelter, and spiritual counseling “in the name of Jesus” to those who lost everything in the killer tidal waves.
“People's spiritual needs must be met as well. That's why GFA takes the dual approach of physical relief and spiritual sharing. It is the only way to provide true hope to those who have lost so much,” said GFA President K.P. Yohannan.
GFA deployed at three different camps in Tamil Nadu, the second most affected place in India, more than 60 counselors who are “comforting, praying for and offering the hope found in Jesus to the tsunami victims.”

Yet Islamonline manages to link the group to:

Trafficking
In another related development, the UN said it had received reports of adults posing as foster parents and children being shipped from Indonesia to Malaysia for sale, reported Agence France-Presse (AFP).

If anyone is being deceitful, it seems that it is Islamonline.

In my neck of the woods, we call what www.Islamonline.net did smear tactics

Thanks
Nimrod

 

[Bittersteel]

Christians are well kind of desperate.Number of atheists have grown in Christian countries and yes they need these victims of war and earthquakes and other natural disasters.

 

[Wahid]

Iqram, I will not respond to this “Well, whoever forces one to revert to Islam, that is not Islam” other than to say, you are not being truthful.

What is Islam’s prescribed punishment for those who abandon Islam? To be given the choice of death or reversion is about as forceful as it gets.

That is what surprised me so much when I read Woodrow’s reply “Speaking for myself. I never had even one Muslim ever ask me to revert or to even encourage me to revert, prior to my reverting”. Surely those Muslims weren’t practicing true Islam.

The truth is what it is. Anything less than that, it is just flapping your gums.

Thanks
Nimrod

What are you talking about? in Islam there is no compulsion in religion which means no one can force you to become Muslim and if they do its anti Islamic. however what i think u meant was a Muslim LEAVING Islam after becoming Muslim and after than declaring this to public.. On that case only a proper Islamic state can prosecute that person and no one else!!(and there is no Islamic state in western countries)

 

[Wahid]

Muslims don't do this? You mean you don't raise your children in islam? So no children are in mosques? You wait until they are adults and then introduce them to islam?

No, Muslims don’t force OTHERS children to Islam!! That’s the difference here. And Muslims have every right to bring up their children as Muslim, after they have grown up they can make their choice themselves but as children parents have responsibility to bring them up the way they think is best for them (common sense...)

Where are the muslim socalled helpers?

they are there and infact doing majorty of the help, but so are these chiristain groups, the government should ban them if they do this kind of stuff

 

[Quruxbadaan]

A Christian work is a perfect work.
The Truth.

now that just doesnt make any sense at all whatso ever

 

[Quruxbadaan]

I started in OLD.
I am younger Today than I was before being reborn throught the gracious spirit of the son of the Almighty Father of whom I Love.

Okay honestly you make no sense AT ALL!!!

 

[Quruxbadaan]

Be honest with yourselves guys. Is Islam any less guilty when it comes to converting people?

People come to islam for their own reasons nobody is forced
islam is the fastest growing religion in the world today and yet the muslims are the weekest people in the world being attacked left and right having their homes taken from them and so on
We just present to you the truth and you decide what you want to do with it(Actually Allah most high chooses if he wants to bless you with accepting the truth)

so actually yes islam is very differnt because muslims dont convert people
they dont say hey lil hungry boy if you want this peice of bread you have to be muslim
like some missionaries do in most poor countries
altho i have to say that the muslims are not nearly as active as the cristian missonaries which is sad to me

Peace

 

[MRR]

No, Muslims don’t force OTHERS children to Islam!! That’s the difference here. And Muslims have every right to bring up their children as Muslim, after they have grown up they can make their choice themselves but as children parents have responsibility to bring them up the way they think is best for them (common sense...)

they are there and infact doing majorty of the help, but so are these chiristain groups, the government should ban them if they do this kind of stuff

Hi Vahid,

after they have grown up they can make their choice themselves

Well actually, depending on where they live, when they grow up if they decide to leave islam they could be put to death. Elsewhere they at least would suffer being disowned from the family. Not really much choice. Raised as muslim, grow up, can't leave islam. No choice.

they are there and infact doing majorty of the help

Can you provide evidence of this please?
As far as the accusations go, the article is from islamonline. So it is an unreliable source when it comes to views on christianity, and christian work, as it is quite biased against christians.
Here is a scenario. "Family is starving. Christian aid worker provides food and clothing. Talks with family about christ after food is distributed. Family has choice to listen or not. They will not be sent away if they don't listen. Either way islamonline uses words like "exploit" to describe what happened." Biased.
Please answer my question regarding evidence in this post, and please have the courage to answer all the questions in my previous post, not just pick the ones that are easy for you to answer. Two other important questions from that post were,

Would you all prefer that the people were left to starve?

and

they are being given the chance at a home, albeit a christian home. Would it be better to remain orphans? Better an orphan than go to a christian home?

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