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[Bittersteel]

In my view execution is the correct punishment for the crime.

However, I don't trust Saudie justice and so it might have been somebody else.

And beheading is barbaric. Executon should be by another method.

I am with you about the first two statements.the last I disagree.Beheading seems to be so quick and clean.though hanging isn't a bad option.

 

[Malaikah]

However, I don't trust Saudie justice and so it might have been somebody else.

They confessed. ^o)

 

[Al-Zaara]

Umm... but it was Allah who ordered that the death penalty be the punishment for murder in the first place... :?

Aleykum selam,

But what if they judged wrong? I continued with "And I actually think some deserve it, but again, do the others (who are verdicted with death penalty) deserve it too? How can you know for sure?" and with this I meant, what if it was more complicated than just murder?

 

[Malaikah]

Well, as long as they judged by Allah's laws then what more can we do?

 

[Joe98]

They confessed. ^o)

In Saudi Arabia it is amazing how many people confess. It must be something in the water there.

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[Joe98]

Well, as long as they judged by Allah's laws then what more can we do?

Only Allah can judge by Allah's laws, Man can only judge by man's laws.

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[Malaikah]

And only Joe98 can come up with profound statements with no basis in reality...

 

[جوري]

When people have to have an operation, they are kept unconscious by anaesthetic

Anaesthetic could be used to put people out and then lethal injection to kill them.


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who is going to pay the anesthesiologists' fees?

http://www.asahq.org/patientEducation.htm

anesthesiologists are medical doctors. might not be in your neck of the woods whatever rustic ground that is.. but they don't go around killing people. it is against the hippocratic oath taken by physicians as to the ethical practice of medicine!
Number one rule
DO NO HARM!
no doctor will violate that first oath in favor of Joe's laws.
get real!

 

[Keltoi]

It is one of those situations where if the suspects did commit such a horrible crime, the death people seems appropriate. It becomes problematic in making a moral judgement here because we simply don't know the facts of the case. Obviously someone killed the child, and whoever did so deserves the death penalty in my opinion, but saying these particular individuals should be executed without any knowledge of who they are and what they did...I will leave that to those who ordered their execution.

 

[MTAFFI]

i say kill them, and not only that but I would say to kill them very slowly, maybe even over the course of a week. To me, to rape a child or kill a child is probably the worst thing that a person could possibly do in this world. My stomach feels sick and I become enraged with hatred and anger when I read about things like this. Look at how many child predators there are in the US, Taiwan, Indonesia, Sri Lanka, and the list goes on, these people should not be free to roam the street after a few years in a minimal security prison. And I dont really care if a few innocent people die for the greater good, it is like the age old question "Could you sacrifice a child to save the rest of the world?" My answer is yes, because think of all the other children you would save... Not only that but the percentage of error in this day in age is slim, extremely slim this wasnt necessarily the case 15 + years ago which is why you hear of these rulings being overturned. These five men deserve to die right along with everyone else like them

edit: This is all assuming that these individuals have evidence brought against them for the crime adn that a jury of their peers have found them guilty beyond a reasonable doubt

 

[Tania]

They confessed. ^o)

You will confess even you don't know who is your mother, if they want too. I read about Gestapo and their techniques of confessions are still used.

I share 100% PurestAmbrosia opinion about justice: "any more than I want to see a man convicted and serve 17 years for a crime he didn't do, one because he was rich enough and famous enough to get away with it, and the other because the man was black enough and fit the profile of people who just wanted to see someone get convicted and who would care any way, one less noisome minority off their streets. "

 

[Whatsthepoint]

anesthesiologists are medical doctors. might not be in your neck of the woods whatever rustic ground that is.. but they don't go around killing people. it is against the hippocratic oath taken by physicians as to the ethical practice of medicine!
Number one rule
DO NO HARM!
no doctor will violate that first oath in favor of Joe's laws.
get real!

Been to Oregon yet?:giggling:;D

 

[Woodrow]

Been to Oregon yet?:giggling:;D

are you the person who sent me a gift certificate to the Kevorkian clinic?

Setting Humor aside. You are correct, there are people who wear the name doctor and somehow forget the oath they have taken.

 

[omar_2133]

five Saudi criminals were drunkards

Drunkards? I thought this was Saudi Arabia, the holiest site on Earth, and when drink and alchohol is so expressely forbidden in the Qu'ran, there shouldn't really be access to this type of stuff.

 

[Woodrow]

Drunkards? I thought this was Saudi Arabia, the holiest site on Earth, and when drink and alchohol is so expressely forbidden in the Qu'ran, there shouldn't really be access to this type of stuff.

Although Makkah and Medinah are the 2 holiest cities on earth, the country of Saudi Arabia is little different from much of the world. Shaytan does seem to be working overtime in many parts of Saudi.

 

[Whatsthepoint]

are you the person who sent me a gift certificate to the Kevorkian clinic?

Setting Humor aside. You are correct, there are people who wear the name doctor and somehow forget the oath they have taken.

Yeah, abortionists for instance...

 

[جوري]

Been to Oregon yet?:giggling:;D

Oregon is the only state that permits euthanasia, I don't need to go there to be familiar with medical law!
However a doctor has a right to refuse euthanizing a pt. if it goes against his ethics. He may certainly make a referral!
Patients of course are NOT criminals, thus leading me to ask-- is there a valid reason for your giggles?

 

[Whatsthepoint]

Oregon is the only state that permits euthanasia, I don't need to go there to be familiar with medical law!
However a doctor has a right to refuse euthanizing a pt. if it goes against his ethics. He may certainly make a referral!
Patients of course are NOT criminals, thus leading me to ask-- is there a valid reason for your giggles?

no doctor will violate that first oath in favor of Joe's laws.

on the other hand...not really.

 

[Woodrow]

on the other hand...not really.

and on the other hand a doctor who intentionaly violates the Hippocratic oath can no longer be considered a Doctor. It takes more than a diploma and a title to justify using the name Doctor and part of that is a sworn promise to abide by the oath.

 

[جوري]

on the other hand...not really.

I am not your 'dear' and indeed no self respecting doctor who honors his oath will euthanize a pt. let alone criminals. That is not the duty of the physician to carry out justice for the state! Go ahead show me how many doctors willingly consciously and freely, killed their patients and didn't serve a term in prison for it outside the state of Orgeon if their scores can be anything but negligible.
If you want to make your own laws along with your awkwardly simple and provincial buddy Joe, either move to Oregon or buy your own Island The rest of the world still hasn't taken leave of its senses!

I am not impressed with the diversion, perhaps we can get back to original topic or make another thread for varous nonsense!