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In 2001, the Northern Alliance backed by the US murdered hundreds of prisoners and civilians when they took Mazar-e-Sharif from the Taleban. In 1998, the Taleban murdered 2,000 Hazara Shias when they took the city from other warlords.
Wow... talk about hypocrisy. You condemn NATO and the Northern Alliance (and rightly so) for killing innocent Afghan civilians, yet when you hear about the massacre of 2,000 Shia men, women and children by the Taleban... in your words "I am pretty sure they had their reasons". You won't even look at the link. I read the English one you posted.منوة الخيال;1541461 said:
You know what?... I don't care if you choose to behave this way and justify the deaths of innocent people, and then get angry at me for not supporting your view.
I will simply pray for you. May the light of Christ come into your life, and may you find salvation in Him, who loved you so much He spilled His blood for you on the cross.
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I don't believe that such an event took place and if it took place (per your understanding) then I am sure they'd their reasons.
Your prayers mean nothing, they are worthless and meaningless. Anyone who doesn't kneel to God worships the devil, no one finds salvation with the devil!
best,
Your prayers mean nothing, they are worthless and meaningless. Anyone who doesn't kneel to God worships the devil, no one finds salvation with the devil!
best,
منوة الخيال;1541467 said:
Now you are denial. Like Serbs who claim there was no massacre at Srebrenica. Or Israelis who claim the Sabra and Shatila massacre was justified.
Jesus is God.منوة الخيال;1541467 said:
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who was Jesus praying to in gethsemane the day before he committd suicide?
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Who is terrorist now? Muslims?
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منوة الخيال;1541441 said:
Dont feed the troll. He is a paid shill..see how he acts.
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Not according to the old testament or the gospels.
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منوة الخيال;1541467 said:
Well, mass killing is never permissisble in islam, wether zionists or other kufar, when they dont fight you and sit in their homes - dont kill them. we arent akin to them you know, we are much better. We dont go kill women and children (aside from some fools) out of frustration and to enjoy it.
This event never took place though, just another style-media propaganda infact it were the communist warlords who killed afghan muslims and massacred alot of villages.
The media saw their chance and potrayed as if the taliban did it. they do this often.
We would not like to be akin to those who kill sleeping civilians with bombs and shells - Ameer ibn khattab(Ra)
he said this because russia condemned him for a bombing, however these bombings were later to be admitted false flag attacks.
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The Gospels do indeed say that He is.
John 1:1-18
The Word Became Flesh
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 He came as a witness, to bear witness about the light, that all might believe through him. 8 He was not the light, but came to bear witness about the light.
9 The true light, which gives light to everyone, was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made through him, yet the world did not know him. 11 He came to his own, and his own people did not receive him. 12 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, 13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.
14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth. 15 ( John bore witness about him, and cried out, “This was he of whom I said, ‘He who comes after me ranks before me, because he was before me.’”) 16 For from his fullness we have all received, grace upon grace. 17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. 18 No one has ever seen God; the only God, who is at the Father's side, he has made him known.
Secondly, although Jesus never said "I am God", He did say:
- That those who have seen Him have seen the Father
John 14:7-10
7 If you had known me, you would have known my Father also. From now on you do know him and have seen him.” 8 Philip said to him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.” 9 Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?
- That He and the Father are one
John 10:29-30
29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. 30 I and the Father are one.”
- That He will judge the world
Matthew 25:31-49
The Final Judgment
31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 And he will place the sheep on his right, but the goats on the left. 34 Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, 36 I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ 37 Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? 38 And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? 39 And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ 40 And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ 44 Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ 45 Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ 46 And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
- That Jesus commanded people to baptize others in the name of the Father, Himself, and the Holy Spirit. This points to the fact that Jesus, the Father, and the Holy Spirit are one God.
Matthew 28:18-20
18 And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”
- Several times in all of the Gospels, Jesus was worshiped by people. He never told them to stop worshiping Him.
There are numerous examples of this, one would be in Matthew 28:17
17 And when they saw him they worshiped him, but some doubted
Did Muhammad ever say he and Allah are one? Did he say that those who have seen him have seen Allah? Did he say he is going to judge the world, and decide who will go to heaven and who will go to hell? Was he ever worshiped?
Was any other prophet, either in the Quran or Old Testament?
Who but God can be one with God? Who but God looks like God? Who but God will judge the world? Who but God can accept worship?
The Bible clearly shows that Jesus is God.
Show me proof that anyone other than the Taleban carried out the massacre in Mazar e Sharif in 1998.
Of course we believe that.
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The army the taliban fought against consisted of communist warlords and mujahideen who betrayed and joined the US-pakistani backed northern alliance, communists often carry out scorched earth tactics in which they destroy everything and kill everyone when they pull back. these communist warlords were trained by soviet-elements.
I want to ask you the same, can you provide me proof that the taliban did this? And not media-based articles. You are really failing to provide evidence and aside from that the Afghan people know much better, and yes they are fuming angry against the evil invaders. the attack on camp bastion proved this, taliban is winning power. A matter of time before the US gets out.
Taliban havent got anything much against the shia's, the taliban itself consists of many sects however they are all destined and agreed to follow the real path - Ahlus sunnah wal jamaah
here a good book to read: http://kalamullah.com/Books/Life With The Taliban.pdf
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Hi Jedi Mindset,
Thanks for the Youtube link. I have to go to work now and may or may not have time to see it this evening, but I will watch it in the next two days and respond.
Whether we like it or not, all information on current events comes from some type of media. Any video, article etc produced or written by someone is a form of media, wouldn't you agree?
Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International are human rights groups which are quite credible, and do not show any hesitation in reporting abuses carried out by the US or Israel or any other nation. They are often blasted by pro-US groups. They reported on this massacre, as well as on other abuses perpetrated by the Taleban. I am still new, so at this moment I cannot post links. When I can, I will do so.
The communist groups did carry out abuses in Afghanistan, as did pro-US groups. I am not defending either them or their puppetmasters in Moscow or Washington. But I am not defending the Taleban either. I will see the video. Take care.
It shows clearly that he isnt as he never said "I am god or Worship me".Show me one verse where he said that..In fact he said
a)"And Jesus came and spoke unto them, saying, All power isGIVEN unto me in heaven and in earth." MATTHEW 28:18
(b) I can of mine own self DO NOTHING: as I hear, I judge . . ."JOHN 5:30
(c) ". . . I by the FINGER OF GOD cast out devils . . ." LUKE 11:20
(d)My father is greater than I. John 14:28
(e)My father is greater than All. John 10:29
(f) HE WAS IGNORANT OF THE LAST HOUR
But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not theangels which are in heaven, NEITHER THE SON, but the Father." MARK 13:32
(g) HE WAS IGNORANT OF THE SEASONS:
"And seeing a fig tree afar of having leaves, he came if happily he might find any thing there on: and when he came to it, hefound nothing but leaves, FOR THE TIME OF FIGS WAS NOT YET." MARK 11:13
In this video Joshual Evans, a former Youth Minister, shares 10 reasons why Jesus can not be God.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW99U4JWNEc&feature=player_embedded
[04:00]Reason #10 - God Can not be Born!
[05:05]Reason #09 - There is unequivocal textual evidence
[09:20]Reason #08 - No one has seen God!
[11:31]Reason #07 - This was the not belief of early Christians
[14:38]Reason #06 - Jesus Ate, Slept, and Prayed
[16:44]Reason #05 - Jesus claimed that God's Knowledge is greater than his
[20:10]Reason #04 - Jesus Explicitly states that he is not God
[22:50]Reason #03 - Son of God?
[29:29]Reason #02 - God does not change
[43:05]Reason #01 - God is the object of Worship!
[46:42]Conclusion
Of course we wont be suprised if you respond like most christians who respond like this
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I didn't say it was nor do I condone the killing of civilians- just wasn't in the mood to look this event up last night on the account of a migraine and him being a nuisance.
