9/11 Anniversary Part One

[Science101]

Science101,
Get your act together. Mind your own business.
No one, I mean no one has the right to express an opinion other than "god's food".

Hee Hee

It is sad though, how easily even educated people fall for the conspiracy theories when it serves their purpose. Instead of hard evidence like the passports that were found on the suicide pilots and their earlier activities, the bold statements of those who previously tried to down the towers, they take the opinion of people with no credible evidence at all. imsad

 

[wilberhum]

Shouldn't you quote sci 101 if you wish to speak of me circuitously? how nutty are you? over three thousand posts and oh so reduced to silence.. wow, they must have a muzzle around your mouth er fingers, to let you get away with so little?!

I was just trying to help help him.
I'm as nutty as a fruit cake but I'm egotistical self praising ego maniac.
Reduced to silence? When? Like now? DA :-\

Got to go to bed. Will answer your next personal assault tomorrow.

 

[جوري]

Instead of hard evidence like the passports that were found on the suicide pilots and their earlier activties

to the contrary, that was my favorite part.. I even had it on photo.. will try to find it in my archives because it was a gem.. was really cute how his passport survived the plane crash, the blazing inferno the collapse of the two towers to mere ashes, and of all the other personal identites and passports, there was the culprit's passport survived unscathed...;D
must have been a miracle for all ye of little faith

 

[Science101]

A truck bomb explodes in the parking garage of the World Trade Center (WTC) killing six and injuring hundreds. Investigators discover the suspects have links to a network of Islamic extremists. Several people eventually convicted in the bombing are linked to the Office of Service's Al Kifah Center in Brooklyn; four of these men are connected to Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman. Rahman, a blind Egyptian cleric who was the spiritual leader of the Egyptian Islamic Jihad, is later convicted of conspiracy for his involvement in a plot to blow up New York City landmarks. He is sentenced to life in prison.

Investigators charge Ramzi Yousef as the mastermind behind the WTC bombing and begin a worldwide manhunt. They discover immigration officials had already detained Ahmed Ajaj, a Yousef associate, when he entered the U.S. carrying terrorist training manuals.
Osama bin Laden's name surfaces during the 1993 WTC investigation as a financier of the Office of Services. His name is also found on a list of individuals who was called from a safe house used by the conspirators. During the WTC bombing trial, bin Laden's name appears on a list of potential unindicted co-conspirators, but Al Qaeda is never mentioned.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/knew/etc/cron.html

 

[جوري]

blah blah blah.. what does this have to do with

CNN: 'Hijacker' Visa Found in Flight 93 Wreckage

Paul Joseph Watson for Alex Jones' Prison Planet | August 23 2004

CNN is reporting that 9/11 hijacker Ziad Jarrah's visa was found in the remains of Flight 93 which went down in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.

Even if we are to entertain the notion that this piece of paper supposedly in the pocket of the suicide pilot who survived a crash which left aircraft parts strewn eight miles apart, do the two photographs shown above even represent the same person?

Ziad Jarrah's family provided evidence days after 9/11 that Jarrah wasn't even onboard Flight 93 and that if he was, it was only as a passenger who was just as much of a victim as the rest of the people on the plane.

The FBI has been evasive on whether or not other hijacker's passports were found in the wreckage of the World Trade Center but the 9/11 commission has now presented photographs which they say show the charred paper visa.

A few days after the attack, several newspapers reported that a paper passport had been found in the ruins of the WTC.

A month ago new photos were released which apparently showed Flight 77 hijackers Nawaq Alhamzi and Salem Alhamzi undergoing security screening at Washington's Dulles International airport.

This is of course to reinforce the official story of 9/11 which is crumbling under the weight of 9/11 research and activism. At least a third of the WTC victim's bodies were vaporized and many of the victims of the Pentagon incident were burned beyond recognition. And yet visas and paper passports which identify the purpotrators and back up the official version of events miraculously survive explosions and fires that we are told melted steel buildings.

The government's desperation to prove the involvement of the named hijackers contrasts with evidence that several of them are still alive, and even Mohammed Atta's father still insists he talks to his son on a regular basis

I mean honestly what do you expect? oh oh for your PBS article to show me the light.. thanks

 

[جوري]

I'm as nutty as a fruit cake but I'm egotistical self praising ego maniac.

are you confused about your identity again? You should up the dose of tacrine so these outbursts don't happen in public...

 

[nevesirth]

what do you think the u.s hoped to gain, if i were to believe the theory you posted? and what about the ayman zawahiri videos and tapes, were they also forged by the cia? or cud he be an uner cover cia agent secretly working for america?

 

[nevesirth]

there actually is something fishy about the latest video, even the beards looked funny, the image only moved three times, the explanation for this was that it might have been uploaded through several websites in order to hide the origing or actual source of the video thereby resulting in the freezing of the image. and they claim it was also leaked to the cia even before al sahab could post it.with the latest cgi technology these days, any form of make belief is virtually possible. so no ruling out of that here, but concrete evidence and not mere speculations is needed.

 

[Science101]

It would not matter if it was real or fake. We know who declared war on the US and other countries.

 

[wilberhum]

It would not matter if it was real or fake. We know who declared war on the US and other countries.

Of course we do. There is just a set that won't accept it. :hiding:

 

[Keltoi]

Perhaps I failed to notice, but I haven't seen anyone blame the Jews for 9/11 on this thread. Does that point to an improvement in the cognitive capacity of our conspiracy brethren?

I think for Americans the thought of the CIA fabricating Bin Laden videos is so funny its hysterical, but some people actually believe that stuff. Most of the time they point to the altered appearance of OBL on several of the videos. The reality of that situation is that some of these extremist websites will recycle old footage and alter it slightly in an attempt to produce a "new" OBL tape.

I just saw a breaking news report which mentioned that an extremist Islamist website from Cairo is stating that a new "martyr" video from one of the 9-11 hijackers will be released on the 11th.

 

[tomtomsmom]

This thread really saddens me. I suppose I should be used to it by now, but I refuse. Personal insults, conspiracy theories and the non-ending game of Clue is overshadowing the horror of 9/11 and the thousands of lives lost since. That is a day I will NEVER forget. The images from that day are burned into my brain. And I still cry. I hope that ALL the souls lost that day and due to this war find a way to rest in peace. And yes, even the ones (whoever they may be) that flew those planes on that very dark day.

 

[جوري]

^^ I hope the chains of horrors that have been justified by this fraudulent attempt to frame people to invade them saddens and horrifies you equally much! I don't think anyone needs a long list.. any more than they need the usual sophomoric commentary from the regulars..
How amusing that, 'hilarious' and 'conspiracy' is the best anyone has to offer as an explanation to the absurd, mind boggling events that took place and continue to take place!
Yeah that usama! and I am currently on Atlantis

 

[Muezzin]

Wow. This seems to be a very popular/infamous poem, generating more thread pages than Ninja Turtles have fingers.

This thread really saddens me. I suppose I should be used to it by now, but I refuse. Personal insults, conspiracy theories and the non-ending game of Clue is overshadowing the horror of 9/11 and the thousands of lives lost since. That is a day I will NEVER forget. The images from that day are burned into my brain. And I still cry. I hope that ALL the souls lost that day and due to this war find a way to rest in peace. And yes, even the ones (whoever they may be) that flew those planes on that very dark day.

Thank you for injecting sanity into this thread.

 

[wilberhum]

This thread really saddens me. I suppose I should be used to it by now, but I refuse. Personal insults, conspiracy theories and the non-ending game of Clue is overshadowing the horror of 9/11 and the thousands of lives lost since. That is a day I will NEVER forget. The images from that day are burned into my brain. And I still cry. I hope that ALL the souls lost that day and due to this war find a way to rest in peace. And yes, even the ones (whoever they may be) that flew those planes on that very dark day.

Well done. eace:

 

[Amadeus85]

well see aaron israel has nothing to do with the USA, and this is the problem which you summed up very well. say arabs one day invaded and destroyed israel, this would not in any way hurt america or americans. and this is the problem with US goverment they put their noses in business that just isnt theirs! many americans themselves say lets not meddle in others business and affairs!

whats ironic is that america giving so much protection and money to israel is causing more problems and defense worries for the USA!

Mmm you still dont understand me :mmokay: . See 1,5 billions muslims from Morocco to Indonesia somehow support Palestinians Arabs. Mentally, sending them money, food, etc. And Israel has just 7 millions citizens, including over 1 million muslim Arabs (who are enemies of the jewish state as well) and is surrounded by 300 million Arabs. You know, seriously i believe that Israel would kick their asses over and over again without US help either but i really cant understand why Malaysia for example can support Palestinian Arabs and USA cant support Israel Jewish state? Seriously, what Malaysians or Afghans for example had to do with Palestina? They are not even Arabs.Just like most Americans arent Jews.You see , its not so simple.

 

[The_Prince]

Mmm you still dont understand me :mmokay: . See 1,5 billions muslims from Morocco to Indonesia somehow support Palestinians Arabs. Mentally, sending them money, food, etc. And Israel has just 7 millions citizens, including over 1 million muslim Arabs (who are enemies of the jewish state as well) and is surrounded by 300 million Arabs. You know, seriously i believe that Israel would kick their asses over and over again without US help either but i really cant understand why Malaysia for example can support Palestinian Arabs and USA cant support Israel Jewish state? Seriously, what Malaysians or Afghans for example had to do with Palestina? They are not even Arabs.Just like most Americans arent Jews.You see , its not so simple.

thats too bad they couldnt kick hezbollah's 'asses' as you say.

 

[Amadeus85]

hitler and ibn laden have nothing in common, u might have been decieved by the media trying to paint him as a monster or a crazy extremist which is far from the truth

heres a statement from ibn laden

The leaders in America and in other countries as well have fallen victim to Jewish Zionist blackmail. They have mobilized their people against Islam and against Muslims. These are portrayed in such a manner as to drive people to rally against them. The truth is that the whole Muslim world is the victim of international terrorism, engineered by America at the United Nations. We are a nation whose sacred symbols have been looted and whose wealth and resources have been plundered. It is normal for us to react against the forces that invade our land and occupy it ...

does that sound like something hitler will say? i guess not

For me the only difference between Osama and Adolf is that Osama didnt have as much power as Adolf had. If Osama had an atomic bomb, im sure that he would nuke USA (The Great Satan) without an eye blink.

 

[The_Prince]

For me the only difference between Osama and Adolf is that Osama didnt have as much power as Adolf had. If Osama had an atomic bomb, im sure that he would nuke USA (The Great Satan) without an eye blink.

just like the usa atom bombed japan not once, but twice :raging: wheres the sorrow for the japanease???????????????? instead everyone justifies it :skeleton:

 

[Amadeus85]

thats too bad they couldnt kick hezbollah's 'asses' as you say.

Its hard to fight with militans who hide among civilians. I would say that it was a draw. I think that it is the main reason of Arabs' hatred for Israel- because tiny Israel, which has almost as many citizens as Cairo, beat its arabic neighbours in every single was, sometimes fighting one against 3 or 4 .