A delicate topic - teenage boys!

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In Islam we have this thing called 70 excuses, preventing us from making irrational judgements. That being said, I do readily admit that there are misguided muslims, some that can be identified solely by their clothings and others via their words - mainly because I have seen it in complete context myself. Unless of course, that brother wasn't hugging the girl and she was simply grabbing a kleenex from his back pocket....

People are responsible for their own actions and will be held accountable for them.
 
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Peace

i would have tapped them, not only that i would have told them that as muslim boys dressed distinctively they have a duty :rant:
 
SubhanAllah! As Muslims we are required to control any forbidden desires we may have, but at the end of the day, we're all blank slates, none of us was born with the knowledge and the ability to differenciate between right and wrong. That knowledge comes with time, education and practice only. So maybe these boys were confused, about themselves and their religion? Only Allah knows the true condition of their hearts but May He guide them. Ameen
 
Greetings again Glo :),

I truley understand what ya mean these things do happen A LOT!..
To begin i shall tell you a little story what happened when i took my two dogs for a walk in park, I was actually shocked after seeing young muslim men some smoking and some just dossing around. There were group of dudes and there were two young muslim men with a short light beard who actually had the nerve to ask me how i was and then ask to me have a smoke with them!
One was wearing the muslim modest gown (don't know what you call it) and underneath tracksuit bottoms.
I was actually well shocked seeing a muslim man who had a beard wearing modest clothes and then actually talking to me!.. If i got this correct im sure muslim men should always lower there gaze for the matter of fact we should all! :hmm:

Subhan'Allaah it actually truley shows there doing this for the fun of it!.. Nowadays we see young muslim men at tarave'h time they be dossing around smoking and what not! They don't realise this life is a test!

Anywho to your issue about them two young men in islamic shop maybe cause there young they might just wear the modest clothes cause fathers there or something.. or maybe just representing them selfs as there in an ''islamic'' shop.. I dunno to behonest.. Maybe im wrong or maybe im right..

Anywho... God forgive them and lead them to right path! Amin
 
^^^if you come to Malaysia...most of the man here gaze at beautiful woman :hmm: They say it is not a sin but a 'gift' :blind:

and also here in Malaysia the pornography in the net is not banned or blocked...so they can easily browse it :-\
 
^^^if you come to Malaysia...most of the man here gaze at beautiful woman :hmm: They say it is not a sin but a 'gift' :blind:

and also here in Malaysia the pornography in the net is not banned or blocked...so they can easily browse it :-\

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WOW!! ASTAGFIRULLAH!!

Im not going to say much but all im going to say is im scared!
 
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^Let's try to be a bit more sympathetic :)... they are very young, 14-15, they probably just hit puberty and have such easy access to haram things... for all we know that might have been the first time he has ever opened such a magazine.

None amongst us is sinless. Maybe Allah guide him.

:w: Perhaps sis, but that's just how I view it. Ameen to your dua though. :)
 
Greetings,

Just because you see a Muslim wearing the full Islamic clothening does not mean they are perfect and free of sin. Everyone sins. Of course what he did is forbiden in Islaam.
 
This is a problem with some of the unmarried muslim men, its a problem, some even did make zina, IM not talkning about the majority, but this is a problem, for men at least.
 
i actually looked through the history and found that someone i trusted was looking at porn on the internet. it was a guy. how pathetic. honestly.
 
This is a problem with some of the unmarried muslim men, its a problem, some even did make zina, IM not talkning about the majority, but this is a problem, for men at least.

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Yeh, I think women find it somewhat easier to control their 'desires'.
 
Salamualikum.
^ That question so does not need an answer because it doesn't matter.. All that matter is the muslim man indeed did something wrong which is forbidden in islam!

May God guide them amin
 
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Hallo Glo,

Not much one can do... Especially as you are a non-Muslim. Maybe they would have reacted in a good way, but better safe than sorry - Allah knows best. They could have grown attitude against non-Muslims or something else not so good..

I would just have made a little prayer that they'd be guided, inshaAllah (if God so wills).
 
Let us all remember the hadith:

"Whoever of you sees wrong being committed, let him change it with his hand (i.e. by force). If he is unable to do that, then with his tongue, and if he is unable to do that, then with his heart.

And enjoin all that is right, and forbid all that is wrong, and be patient in the face of that which afflicts you, verily, that is the most upright of positions.Qur'an 31/17.


Three things are absolutely essential when you want to enjoin right and forbid wrong: knowledge, compassion, and patience. Knowledge is required before enjoining right and forbidding wrong, compassion is required during its practice, and patience is required after it.

I understand Glo how you must have felt vulnerable and I think its a great thing that if the boys were in some way stimulated by you , that you are uncomfortable with this. How many girls in todays society would be secretly proud and pleased with themselves that they managed to have such an effect. You just got kudos in my opinion.

If it was a separate incident, then who knows why did it. Allahu ahlam. Maybe he had been fighting the urge for ages and who said he bought one? At the end of it, if he managed to avoid buying one and turned away from the shelf, then he also stopped himself doing a bad deed..which is itself a good deed.

Personally it frustrates me so much when I see clearly identifiable Muslims acting in ways which are clearly not Islamic. I have sympathy for such people but it also causes me to be embarrassed. I also do such things myself estaghfirullah and i do believe it brings shame on the Ummah. I often feel shame for the things I did because I know its making Muslims look bad.
It also makes Muslims have to defend Islam and my practise of it more strongly. For example, my family always put examples of muslims not wearing hijab in front of me and ask me why I have to be so strict about it when clearly there are thousands of muslims not wearing it. Or having girlfriends is another one. They often say 'such people are not practising'. My only response can be we all sin different ways and do Christians always practise their faith exceptionally well? And of course not to judge Islam by the Muslims.

One particular thing that frustrated me in the past was on a trip to London I visited Edgeware Road, a big Arabic (and therefore Muslim) population is there and its very like being in Luxor to me. However along the road are various phone boxes and in such glass phone boxes are clearly visible business cards of naked women (head to foot) in provocative positions. Hundreds of them sellotaped beside the phone. I said 'why do the Muslims who live here not remove them?' . I still dont know why not and i try to think of all kinds of reasons.

If I was doing something wrong and some Muslim tapped me on the shoulder and reminded me gently or even harshly, I think I would feel defensive and react a bit badly. But I would be happy later because that person helped me to stay away from sin and I would fear doing such a thing again.

In saying that many muslims react really badly to any words of reminder, and feel that the person is condescending and patronising and judging them. Its hard to know what to do. I myself often feel bad that I didnt remind someone gently of something.

I think the sahaba would have reminded each other but they also had high enough iman to take it and be grateful about it. Not sure we have that today.

But fair dues to you Glo for the desire to say something, I hope God rewards you at least for that inshaAllah.

salam
 
Greetings,

Just because you see a Muslim wearing the full Islamic clothening does not mean they are perfect and free of sin. Everyone sins. Of course what he did is forbiden in Islaam.

i agree. we are all humans - no saints anywhere in sight.
we all do wrong things, even when we know that they are wrong. fortunately, god is merciful.
teen-age boys are somewhat at the mercy of their hormones.
 
Hmm, theres an old saying - Boys will be boys :skeleton: ...

You are right though, they definatly should better represent - as they are in the public view - and in Islam, public misrepresentation is HEAVILY detested - You was right, that you not being a muslim elder commenting was not well suited. I guess if their was some though, they probably will do so and would have the right :)!
 

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