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Assalaamu alaikum,


(smile) A wedding party is sunnah (http://en.islamtoday.net/node/1252),which should be a good enough reason for a Muslim to desire one...


You know, a wedding party is not just about pretty clothes and food-filled fun. It has some important social functions. It is about announcing to the community that a male is taking on the responsibilities of a man (frankly, sex doesn't distinguish a boy from a man; it's the taking on of responsibilities, particularly family responsibilities, that signals this transition). It also signals to the community that the relationship between a man and a woman is halal, and ensures that the children will be recognized as legitimate and due rights from the father.


Furthermore, any man who cares about his future wife will want to be recognized as her husband. He will be proud of the fact that this woman has accepted to marry him, and he will want both his and her status well known. He will feel a desire to have a nice party to honour his bride and her family. If he is a contributing member of society, he will also want to provide a nice time (to the best of his ability) to his community members, out of love and respect for them.


If any man is reluctant to have a marriage party, a woman should beware and not marry him; it is very unlikely that he will shoulder his responsibilities and look after her and her children.


That said, it is true that people can be ridiculously boastful and spend stunning amounts on weddings; this, in my opinion, is not part of the Middle Path that is Islam.


As for the idea of making weddings cheap so as to make zina less attractive... this is a race to the bottom. What in fact you are arguing, is that we should debase marriage to make extra-marital relations less likely. But you see, if we debase marriage, then we make zina more likely, not less. After all, if there is nothing special about marriage, why bother? As too many people in my home province say: well hey, it's just a formality, right? Just a piece of paper... And so zina is much more prevalent.


Wedding ceremonies occur in every culture around the world. There is a deep and ancient wisdom to them. It is only in our modern corporate-industrial world that this ancient wisdom is being challenged. And it is only in modern “pop” Islam that I see this argument towards turning the mehr into a purely symbolic amount, and trying to eliminate the traditional decencies of the wedding party.


Islam is about moderation, not extremes. Ridiculously lavish weddings are one extreme. But the elimination (or quasi-elimination) of weddings is another.


May Allah, the One Who is Free from all Wants, Enrich us sufficiently to marry, but Restrain us from excesses.
 
If any man is reluctant to have a marriage party, a woman should beware and not marry him;

You have to be beware of me ;D any sources(The Book, is the hadith daeef or hasan sahih or something else??

As for the idea of making weddings cheap so as to make zina less attractive

No the whole process of marrying cheaper and esier and more simple. :D
 
this is a race to the bottom. What in fact you are arguing, is that we should debase marriage to make extra-marital relations less likely. But you see, if we debase marriage, then we make zina more likely, not less. After all, if there is nothing special about marriage, why bother? As too many people in my home province say: well hey, it's just a formality, right? Just a piece of paper... And so zina is much more prevalent.

Didn't understand this par could you explain sister?
 
nope as brother Ardianto said you don't have to have a wedding
You misunderstand what I mean. You don't get married alone, bro!. You can choose to not have wedding. But how about your bride?. I am not sure she will approve it.

For a woman, wedding is the most beautiful day in her life. Every woman want to have this day. This is what you must understand.

You have to be beware of me any sources(The Book, is the hadith daeef or hasan sahih or something else??
Sis MuslimInshallah statement is based on reality. If a man dos not want to have wedding party, it's mean he is a man who is not willing to understand his life-partner feeling. This is not the right man to be married by a woman.
 
For a woman, wedding is the most beautiful day in her life. Every woman want to have this day. This is what you must understand.

Any experiences/insights?

I don't know why but day by day I feel like my life is becoming worse...

Can someone close the thread I feel that it's just becoming an arrgument.
 
Brother Strivingfordeen am sorry you feel as though your life is getting worse with each day.

I think you should count your blessings and look at what you have rather than looking at what you don't.

Life is what we make of it - our perspectives and the way we deal with problems ultimately shapes our future. Either we can feel sorry for ourselves and feel pity and go in a downwards spiral or we can take control of our lives and change it for the positive in sha Allah.

Whatever problem your faced with in Islam there is always always a cure and guidance on how to deal with the issue. Because we fail to look within our own religion for answers this is why sometimes we feel as though life is getting worse. If you see this life as a test in sha Allah, you will think i am suffering because of one of the following

a) my sins - Allah swa is cleaning my soul for jannah
b) When your always in a happy state of mind you sometimes forget to show gratitude to Allah swa and maybe perhaps fail on your compulsory duties
c) Allah swa is strengthening my character and mind for something greater
d) Knowledge is with Allah swa

etc

Look at Allah swa and concentrate on improving your relationship with Allah swa and am confident your troubles will feel very light.
 
I agree that weddings should be simplified. But there needs to be a wedding, just as sis MuslimInshallah explained. It signifies the start of an important stage in life. It's no small occasion. But it doesn't need to be extravagant.
If you're worried about wedding costs and unnecessary luxuries, then it might be a good idea to let all potentials know that you plan on having a simple wedding. This will weed out those who are luxurious and unislamic.

May Allah make it easy for you.
 

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