a question concerning muslim beliefs about divine revelations

[Jayda]

hola,

i hope i do not offend anyone with my question, but it is something that confuses me. i think i understand correctly that muslims believe there are three "books" that moses jesus and mohammed brought. and that the books that come before were deliberately changed by people.

do muslims believe the quran can be changed like that too? if this is so why do muslims believe mohammed is the last prophet? and why do muslims believe God allows his message to be warped to such a point it has to be replaced?

if muslims believe that the quran cannot be changed... why did he not just make the first book eternal and unchangeable?

also do muslims believe all three books were the same message? if so why do muslims believe that jesus and mohammed were necessary?

muchos gracias

 

[- Qatada -]

Hi Jayda.


First of all, we accept the previous scriptures [the Old Testament, the Gospel etc.] When these verses were sent down to the prophets, it was upto the nation to preserve it.

We know that from among them, there were some people who distorted them. Why was this? Because they wanted to follow their own whims and desires. For instance we know that there are so much copies of the Bible today, each with its own different interpretation. None of these are in the original language, and we know that if a scriptures not in its original language - then it's just a translation, its not the actual scripture. [Look at the bible, and ask yourself why you're using that specific version, why can't it just be that you get the original one? The reason for this is because the original doesn't remain. What does this mean? It mean's that you can't compare any of these versions to see what the original message sent down to Jesus was.]


Therefore, we as muslims do believe that the previous scriptures were revealed to the prophets of the earlier nations, however - these got distorted, even though it was upto these people to preserve the message which was sent to their prophet. And we can rightly say that it doesn't exist no more.



Due to the fact that these scriptures were distorted, and the people started worshipping others besides Allaah, and said things about Him which they shouldn't have said (i.e. we're God's children etc.) Allaah sent the message to the final prophet - Muhammad (peace be upon him.) Muhammad (peace be upon him) would come to confirm what was in the previous scriptures [calling to the worship of Allaah/God Alone without any associates] and this message would be for all of mankind (instead of just for the children of Isra'eel.) This message will be preserved by Allaah, and no-one is able to alter it by Allaah's Mercy. We know that till this day [since over 1400yrs ago] the Qur'an is still in arabic and is still preserved the same way it was over 1400yrs ago.

Why you may ask? Why did Allaah not preserve the message of the previous prophets, yet He preserves the message of Muhammad (peace be upon him)? The answer to this is simple. When Allaah sent a messenger to his people, it was upto the people to preserve the message, but they never had to spread it to different parts of the world. However, the message given to Muhammad (peace be upon him) was for the whole world, so Allaah has preserved it, but it is our duty to spread it to mankind. [If you feel this is wrong, you will find verses from the bible which claim Jesus (peace be upon him) being commanded to “Go to the lost sheep of the House of Israel!” Matthew 10:6]

Whereas Muhammad (peace be upon him) is being told:

"Say: 'O mankind! I am sent unto you all, as the Messenger of Allah, to Whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth." (Qur'an 7:158)



If you use try reading the Qur'an, you may find things which you find confusing, or verses which you don't understand. You may even accidentally take the verses out of context, so i'd just like to point out that the Qur'an can't be interpreted to our own understanding, rather - it should be understood according to how the Messenger of Allaah, and his companions understood it, due to the fact that they lived it throughout their life.


Therefore you'll have to look at the sciences of tafseer to get a true understanding of the interpretation of the Qur'an. You can do that by visiting these sites insha'Allaah (God willing: )


http://www.tafsir.com/

http://www.theholybook.org/




We don't totally reject the previous scriptures, we believe that they were original once upon a time. Think of it this way, the Old Testament, the New Testament, and the Final Testament (the Qur'an.) The Final Testament confirms what was in the previous scriptures, yet whatever was fabricated/distorted in the previous scriptures has been refuted in the Qur'an/Final Testament, and the Authentic Sunnah [prophetic way/sayings etc.]


Yet by Allaah's Mercy there are still parts of the Bible which havn't been distorted which prophecise the coming of the final messenger - Muhammad (peace be upon him.):


Read more:
http://www.islamicboard.com/comparative-religion/12390-prophet-muhammad-peace-upon-him-prophecised-bible.html (Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) Prophecised in the Bible.)



Allaah Almighty knows best.




Peace.​

 

[- Qatada -]

Oh yeah, we believe that all the prophets had the same message of calling to the worship of God/Allaah Almighty alone, however the laws differed in matter of lifestyle. So for instance, some nations weren't forbidden alcohol, whereas in the final revelation revealed to Muhammad (peace be upon him) it is forbidden, and there are many other things in regard to lifestyle which differ. This is all out of Allaah/God Almighty's Wisdom, and the best law is the final law and it has been perfected because Allaah Almighty says:


This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My Favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion.

[Qur'an Al-Ma'eeda 5:3]



Peace.

 

[thirdwatch512]

actually jesus came for all of mankind. the OT says that the messiah will come for both the jews and gentile, and will come for all of mankind. that verse matthew 10:6 is referring to a specific time.. jesus was going to preach to the lost sheep of israel at that specific time, but he did go out to ALL of mankind..

isaiah 49:6 isaiah 42:1-4 and verse 6, and matthew 12:14-21


also let's not forget john 3:16 - For God so loved the WORLD...

as for the Bible being distorted.. there are 2400 manuscripts that debunk that claim. and you're right, there is no official original Bible.. but there's not an official original Qu'ran either! there are copies, just as there are of the original Bible (the dead sea sctrolls had it!)

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

There is only "one" copy of the Qur'an. I guess u mean versions? Not sure. They are translations and translations dont always capture the correct meaning of the Qur'an. Thats why its encouraged to learn Arabic. And theres nothing different. Its purely the same.

 

[Malaikah]

as for the Bible being distorted.. there are 2400 manuscripts that debunk that claim. and you're right, there is no official original Bible.. but there's not an official original Qu'ran either! there are copies, just as there are of the original Bible (the dead sea sctrolls had it!)

The bible was written by men, and was not the literal word of God. The book that was revealed to Jesus was the actual speech of God, and is different to the NT.

It is possible that the Bible contains parts of that book. But for the record we are talking about different books.

Oh, and there is an official original Quran- it is in a museum in turkey.