A question to a non-Muslim answered by a non muslim
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increasing post count...sorry you will have to explain. and i ment that alot of things that were wrote in the qu'ran scientists are finding out today. just one example is science stated the the sun will one say explode outward making it level with the planets and ingluping them before turning into a supernove now if you look in the quran i dont know word for word but i believe its discribes part of judgement day very similar if not the same, i actually have a book at home that lists all the scientific findings that were in the quran
the reason i thold the other person science and islam go hand in had because he said "i wouldnt unless we had to rewrite science and reality." where by meaning that science and islam are diffrent and islam is not reality which infact is in correct
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were getting off topic. but in my opinon the religion of islam makes many unscientific claims and if you hold the quran to be 100% true then you ahve to rewrite science and our knowledge. "ex. we are not made from clay. we are a product of evo. of course many muslims choose to throw that particular science out the window."
But if you say this ranama you will repent in the hereafter then you might rememebr me Yanal who is trying to save you from hell fire even you snakelegs you are old and must think about Islam but do not think i am forcing you to the choice is yours and if you go on the right choice heaven but what i am seeing you ar egoing on the path of hell
yanal the best we can do is try like i posted earlier that if we push someone to hard and they become muslim and intern become a bad muslim it will be bad on us, but i hope people find their way islam is such a beautiful way of life
I dont think you understand how alien Islamic beliefs are to a non-muslim. What you propose to be true and convince other's of is like me warning you that not believing in Santa will mean no presents. Perhaps now you can appretiate our view point a little better
As to not de-rail the thread, if you interested in reasons why myself or others hold it to be as such, feel free to open a new thread and I would be happy to answer you.
I know islam is so diffrent from what you guys are use to from far it may seem strange and somethings almost impossible , when you look at islam you have to do it with an open heart and an open mind, anything is possible in this world and some stories i could tell you of things which people of afghanistan have seen not even in an islamic way just things that have been seen that a human could not or may not believe untill they see it. when you look at islam or read about it dont judge and say its strage or alien as you say because keep in mind religion started at a diffrent time this was practilly a diffrent world. you just need to read and open you mind and heart and you will know what the truth is, you will just feel it
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this is the same line you get from pretty much any religion. You just have to feel it. You must want to believe. You need to open up etc...
Oh you still dont believe then you didnt truly open your mind/heart...etc...
So why not become a Jew, or a christian or a odinists etc... that way.
Perhaps you truly havent open your mind enough to odin.
The truth is that all this is is an emotional appeal and nothing more.
Dont get me wrong i mean i had very liberal parents i read books from every religion all through out high school in truth my father was muslim but my mother wasnt so i studied and islam just gave me that peaceful feeling it gave me goose bumps there was sumthing about it and i was proud of it...i mean yes its diffrent i was always muslim but my parents were open minded but islam just felt like the right way
salaams all,
responses to Syilla's queries:
Oh yeah, Yanal's original questions:
As for telling my parents, I'd tell them to accept Scruffy as the one true god - or die!
I'd have to choose the name Scruffy
Those wearing neat & tidy clothing will go straight to hell, will not pass go, will not collect 200 dollars! And we have a very special torment for those who forget Tuesdays...
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responses to Syilla's queries:
1.How much do you know about Islam? A bit
2.If you heard something about islam, do you quickly judge islam or you will ask a knowledgeable muslim.use common sense, research online, ask someone who knows - then judge!
3.What in islam that you don't agree. (Please there will be no debate or refutation, InshaAllah a muslim will make a thread on it).many illogical attributes, if there was a god, it would seem very doubtful he'd be illogical
4. Have anyone of you befriended to a pious muslim? How do you know he is a pious muslim? several Muslim acquaintences, is devout the same as pious?
5. Have you truly read and understand the whole quran? (you don't need to answer this if you don't want to) truly read quite a bit, with an open heart & mind (the offer of immortality got my attention) however, when reading I had not a single tingle or glimmer of anything, can't imagine a god who'd not give a hint to a sincere seeker then send to eternal torture, very cruel
6. What do you think of praying five times aday? if I started a religion I'd seriously consider implementing something like this, I think it is a very good idea, it's how I'd go about brainwashing/programming my flock
7. What do you think of 5 pillars in Islam.the charity thing is, IMHO, the best part of Islam - very admirable indeed. In my religion I'd have the chant: there's no god but Scruffy, and Scruffy is the greatest! And, you have to say it 20 times a day, and, once backward on Tuesdays. For the same reason as 6 above
8. Are there any changes in yourself (behaviour, practises, dressing) since you're in islamicboard or since you have learn more about Islam.Since I learned more about Islam, I try to be polite, gentle, respectful and attempt to persuade using sound logic, reason & evidence
Thats all for now.
Massallama
Oh yeah, Yanal's original questions:
As for telling my parents, I'd tell them to accept Scruffy as the one true god - or die!
I'd have to choose the name Scruffy
Those wearing neat & tidy clothing will go straight to hell, will not pass go, will not collect 200 dollars! And we have a very special torment for those who forget Tuesdays...
eace: