A rational argument for belief in Allah (swt)

[Muezzin]

I know.

Regrettably, the assertion 'something does not come from nothing' does not demonstrate God. And 'absence of evidence is not evidence of absence' also does not demonstrate God.

Well, 'absence of evidence is not evidence of absence' does not demonstrate anything that the idiom is used for. Semantics... they should save it for advertising.

 

[ajazz]

Dark matter is not comparable to the existence of God.

That’s right nothing is comparable to Allah (swt)

Go read my post carefully again you are getting confused and also contradicting your self.

From your earlier post you said

The intellectual non-answer is not God because we have absolutely no evidence whatsoever that God exists. .

And now you say

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

Wow!

Moreover, there is observational evidence behind Dark Matter

Most scientists agree that most of the matter in the universe is dark. Dark matter, which is undetectable through direct observation, can only be inferred because of its effects on the matter that we can see

http://www.physorg.com/news110795864.html

The key word is inferred and not observational evidence, get it?

Arguably, we do have evidence.

Where it is? Invisible like dark matter

The Qu'ran only supports the Big Bang if you interpret it in a specific way. .

Yusuf Ali Translation

Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder? We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?


Translation Pickthal

Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were of one piece, then We parted them, and we made every living thing of water? Will they not then believe?


Translation M. Khan


Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were joined together as one united piece, then We parted them? And We have made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?




No interpretation is needed the meaning is crystal clear.

Would an Islamic state accept a scientific proposition which undermined the Qu'ran's validity?

There is not a single statement in the holy Quran which goes against ESTABLISHED SCIENTIFIC FACT

I don't need to

Well you don’t need to or you can’t?

You describing a 'God' irrespective of details and specifics still has exactly the same effect for humanity as me describing the pink unicorn

You don’t get things right do you? The first time or the second time

It’s not my description, it is Allah (swt) himself describing in the holy Quran

Don’t know about you but has effect on lots of people that why we are more than 1.5 billion Muslims all over the world and still growing, Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world.

Your irrelevant conjecture on God's attributes is not scientific, does not enhance our understanding of the universe and has no value for humanity whatsoever.

“A significant number of stars in the sky, such as Aldebaran and Altair, and astronomical terms such as alhidade, azimuth, and almucantar, are still today recognized with their Arabic names.[5]”

Islam and astronomy

Islam has affected astronomy directly and indirectly. A major impetus for the flowering of astronomy in Islam came from religious observances, which presented an assortment of problems in mathematical astronomy, specifically in spherical geometry.[1]

Islamic attitude towards astronomy

Islam advised Muslims to find ways of using the stars. The Qur'an says: "And it is He who ordained the stars for you that you may be guided thereby in the darkness of the land and the sea."[7] On the basis of this advice Muslim began to find better observational and navigational instruments, thus most navigational stars today have Arabic names.[1]

In the 9th century, the eldest Banū Mūsā brother, Ja'far Muhammad ibn Mūsā ibn Shākir, made significant contributions to astrophysics and celestial mechanics. He was the first to hypothesize that the heavenly bodies and celestial spheres are subject to the same laws of physics as Earth, unlike the ancients who believed that the celestial spheres followed their own set of physical laws different from that of Earth.[42] In his Astral Motion and The Force of Attraction, Muhammad ibn Musa also proposed that there is a force of attraction between heavenly bodies,[43] foreshadowing Newton's law of universal gravitation.[44]



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_astronomy

 

[Skavau]

That’s right nothing is comparable to Allah (swt)

By comparable, I meant as in how people understand it and why people accept it. Dark Matter is not take on faith value.

Go read my post carefully again you are getting confused and also contradicting your self.

Not at all. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, but equally not being evidence of absence does not entail actual positive evidence. So the two statements do indeed co-exist. I'll explain further.

We have no evidence that God exists.
But this absence of evidence does not equate for positive evidence against the existence of God. Absence of evidence is simply that - lacking.

Most scientists agree that most of the matter in the universe is dark. Dark matter, which is undetectable through direct observation, can only be inferred because of its effects on the matter that we can see

Do a google search and type in "Observation evidence of Dark Matter".

Approximately the first 4 of the 5 links I noticed all talk about it.

Where it is? Invisible like dark matter

Why are you responding to everything I say out of context?

I made my case directly blow my claim that evidence does exist. Here it is again, for your sake:

Ex nihilo, nihil fit. Moreover if such does not constitute as evidence, it does not necessitate nothing. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence."

No interpretation is needed the meaning is crystal clear.

No it isn't.

Declaring the heaven and the earths as united has nothing to do with anything regarding the Big Bang. And the statement everything coming from water is factually incorrect.

There is not a single statement in the holy Quran which goes against ESTABLISHED SCIENTIFIC FACT

Again, you didn't answer the question:

Would an Islamic state accept a scientific proposition which undermined the Qu'ran's validity?

Well you don’t need to or you can’t?

I don't need to.

You don’t get things right do you? The first time or the second time

It’s not my description, it is Allah (swt) himself describing in the holy Quran

Or, of course if the Qu'ran is not true and if God does not exist - it is nothing.

Don’t know about you but has effect on lots of people that why we are more than 1.5 billion Muslims all over the world and still growing, Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world.

What criteria are you using to determine Islam as the worlds fastest growing religion?

Moreover, appeal to popularity is a logical fallacy - not a good argument.