Advice To The Seekers

[Ghazi]

slowly being hijacked by extremists

This is a big cliam akhi please don't go down this road, also remember how upset you were at allahuakbr.net if you accuse people or even hold such views against others arn't you doing the same thing they are, this is just gonna divide us more I don't agree with some shieks but I don't labell them "Scholars for Dollars" as some muslims do, we need to treat people the same why we wanna be treated, labelling people or a group extreme is harsh and should be avoided if you have any daleel or wanna show what they preach is wrong do it in a productive way but name-calling is below everyone.

 

[Ibn Abi Ahmed]

Please remember that this is a no sectarian discussion forum. That means no sectarian content in your posts and in links. Also, please do not quote people such as Nuh Ha Mim Keller.

Jazakallah Khair.

 

[SirZubair]

I find it quite baffling how the same ppl who bang on about adab this asab that fail to use it themselves.

Sis,

I find it quite baffling how the same people who band on about following the quran and sunnah of prophet muhammed always fail to display the Sunnah of the prophet.

I find it to be more dangerous when someone that claims to follow the sunnah displays something else,compared to one that tells others to have Adab yet fails to display it all the time.

I have said it before,and i will say it again,i recognise the fact that i lack adab. I am working on it.


:wasalaam:

 

[SirZubair]

This is a big cliam akhi please don't go down this road, also remember how upset you were at allahuakbr.net if you accuse people or even hold such views against others arn't you doing the same thing they are, this is just gonna divide us more I don't agree with some shieks but I don't labell them "Scholars for Dollars" as some muslims do, we need to treat people the same why we wanna be treated, labelling people or a group extreme is harsh and should be avoided if you have any daleel or wanna show what they preach is wrong do it in a productive way but name-calling is below everyone.

akhi,

shukran for the advise.

There is one thing i cannot deny,ever,..you are one of the view people i have 'met' online who never fails to display Adab.
I,personally,lack adab alot of times,but i've accepted it many times,that i am working on it.
I apoligise to anyone whom i have offended.

:wasalaam:

 

[SirZubair]

Please remember that this is a no sectarian discussion forum. That means no sectarian content in your posts and in links. Also, please do not quote people such as Nuh Ha Mim Keller.

Jazakallah Khair.

akhi,

What if i posted the article WITHOUT the name of Shaykh Nuh Ha Mim Keller?

What is the problem with Shaykh Nuh Ha Mim Keller? is it the fact that he

isn't your chosen shaykh? or the fact that the self righteous Bilal Phillips has labeled his a 'deviant'?

For the love of God,try to ignore the fact that his Name was ontop of the article,it was the actual MESSAGE he was sending out that was important.

So if you will give me permission,i will repost the ARTICLE without his name,is that ok with you?

BTW,akhi,if i am wrong in saying so,please forgive me,but i am Assuming that you have something against Shaykh Nuh because of the Article that allahuakbr.net has on its website?

If so,i suggest you do some research on the Shaykh. allahuakbr.net is very good at misleading people. Don't follow it blindly. Trust me,anything on that website is far from the truth. All that website does is,spread hate and Disunity.

Ask yourself,what do you know about Shaykh Nuh?

:wasalaam:

 

[Ibn Abi Ahmed]

Akhi

If you would have posted it, you would have have to had provided a source, therefore it is ineviteble that his name would have shown.

It isnt the fact that he "isnt my shaykh". And no, I dont follow the "self righteous" Bilal Phillips. Ive read some of his books and even as a layman I can see many problems with his books, such as quoting and even recommending people such as Ibn Arabi.

To also address the point, adab is important without a doubt. But adab is pointless if the message the person is giving is inauthentic and deviated.

Nuh Ha Mim Keller may have adab but his message is inauthentic. He is spreading many false things. He is no doubt a deviated sufi. He is among those who deny Allah's Attributes. He belittles the Pious Predecesors. He considers people such as ibn Arabi as one of the greatest scholors when he nothing but a deviated philosopher. And the list goes on.

Whilst in all of this he may have adab, but how can one learn from a person so deviated? How can one take Islamic Ilm from such a person?

And just for the record, it isnt because of allahuakbar.net, though i consider that to be a very good website, Ive happened to have read his books and other articles he has written. There is no doubt in my mind that this man is preaching something other than Islam and taking Islam from him would be the worst thing any person can do.



Ps- If sectarian talks come up, thread will be closed.

 

[SirZubair]

Edit:

akhi,...

..i've edited my post,there is no point in arguing about it. You are a Mod,you will have the last say. No matter what i say or what i do,you will still have your way. So i won't bother,it is hopeless.

I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree on your view on Nuh Ha Mim Keller (aud'billah - i pray that ALlah swt will forgive you for labeling him a deviant sufi) and allahuakbar.net (i pray that allah swt will forgive the people who are running that website,a website full of hate which causes disunity).

Lets leave it at that.

:wasalaam: