OmAbdullah
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Your concern is noted. I do follow blindly but that's because I have ascertained his superiority to me and other scholars in Quran, Hadith and Practice. Ofcourse before blindly following one must do thorough research... dig deep into the roots. As Umar(RA) said stay with them, travel with them to see who they really are. Other things to find out would be do they have a following of which includes many scholars? Have they ever committed a Major sin or are known to commit minor sins often? etc
Even during the time of Mohammadsaw
(And hold fast, all of you together, to the Rope of Allah, and be not divided among yourselves.) (3:103)
The Khawarijites and Munafiqeen existed during the time of Mohammad
There have been many fake Prophets after Mohammad(SAW) and before him. Fakes will always exist and I am well aware of many of shaytans charlatans. No matter what shaytan tries those who want to find Allah Most High will find Him through means He Himself best knows.
Actually Umar(RA) did not make a mistake but it is the woman who took it out of context. Also what you have quoted is only half of it; what of the rest? What if you have been basing your Islam on Half truths like this... food for thought.
Hazrat Umar (R) had once said in a speech: “Do not give large amounts (for Mahr)”. A woman objected to this and said that “the Quran mentioned the word “Qintaar” which translates to: a heap of gold or silver!” After listening to her, he replied: “You are correct, as it is not prohibited in general terms. Meaning if it’s not done for show, he has the ability to pay the full amount, and has the intention for paying it as well, and then by all means he should do so. But if one of these is missing, then it will not be permissible.”
http://www.shariahboardny.org/view-articles.php?id=3&t=Details-of-Mahr-(Dowry)-in-the-Shariah
How can Umar(RA) make such a blunder when many of the Qur'anic verses itself was revealed affirming to his Fitra; It makes no sense. But you believed he did! food for thought...
Wa alaikum salaam.
Your statement is very much mixed up. It is not clear at all. The extra statement that is given in your post is added to the statement of Umar rAa. This should not happen. When Umar rAa heard from the woman the clear Command of Allah in the Surah Al-Nisaa, he at once took his words back and didn't fix a limit for the mahar. This was the great quality of the Sahaabah. They didn't make it a matter of self honor. They believed that all honor is with Allah. They had the fear of Allah. Now also the Muslims must do the same. But this is not the case of the present Muslims. For e.g. look at the last sentence of your quote. That sentence has no clear meaning. Moreover the truth is that Umar rAa didn't fix any limit to mahar. Your proof doesn't say that Umar rAa discarded the words of the woman and fixed a liimit. That means that someone added these meaningless sentences to the true statement of the woman and Umar rAa's story only to make it a confusion. This should not be done by God-fearing Muslims. You should recognize such statement and shouldn't be mislead by it.
I am giving two examples for clear understanding of the things concerned.:
Mahar is such a thing that can be a lot according to the will and status of the husband. So there is no limit. Also at the time of Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam, a woman accepted only a pair of shoes in mahar from her husband. The Prophet salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam asked her if she was pleased with it. She said, "yes". So that was the only mahar that she got. So it has no upper or lower limit. The upper limit is removed in the Book of Allah. The lower limit is given by the wife and the Sunnah approved it.
Second thing is the matter of honor. Concerning the Deen, we must forget about our self honor, must fear Allah and keep to the truth even if it insults us. Once Abu Dhar Ghafaaree rAa became angry with a black sahaabi (Bilal) rAa and said to him, "the son of a black woman". the Prophet salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam said to him, "Did you tease him by insulting his mother? You are surely a person in whom is ignorance. When was it that the son of a white woman enjoyed superiority over the son of a black woman for reasons other than piety?"
(Al-Bukhaari)
After this Abu Dharr Ghafaari told this story to many companions conveying the whole situation, his own bad words and the exact words /lesson of Muhammad salla Allaho alaihi wa sallam. He didn't think about his insult and trusted Allah. So even today this hadeeth reached us from him but he is Masha Allah very honorable Sahaabi.
