After Saddam, Iraqi women are used as sex objects

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knuckles said:
Maybe it's the strapping of bombs to yourself and blowing up innocent people:rollseyes
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How god damn naive!?

Yeah see how it all started was a muslim was sitting one day boered and started strapping c4 to himself for fun!

Get an education mate!
 
HeiGou said:
blackjubba said:
Look what they are doing to our sisters! Ya Allah!

If I can correct you, it is what your brothers (not "they") are doing to your sisters. The Americans may have accidentally enabled them to behave like this by removing Saddam's police control, but it is Muslims who are doing this, well most of this, to Muslimas. Who would have guessed?



All the work of Iraqi men, not the West.
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OH FOR GOD SAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You know i wonder sometimes why any one bothers trying to explain all this to some ignorant person who will always deny everything!!!!

How can it be!!! HOW that this is never the americans fault!??????

Now it cant be americans hurting our people NO thats immpossible!!!

it MUST be MUSLIMS!!!!!!!!!!

Cos MUSLIMS Blow everything up and thats what the media says so THEY must be WRONG!

Whatever peeps like you wont be happy till there is a war... you might just get what you want if people like you continue to deny the suffering of innocents like this!

PATHETIC!
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Rou said:
How god damn naive!?

Yeah see how it all started was a muslim was sitting one day boered and started strapping c4 to himself for fun!

Get an education mate!
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So muslims don't blow themselves up? Libyan terrorists never blew up airplanes? Never killed Jews in Munich? Never killed a Jew on a boat and kicked him overboard? Damn I must need new books
 
Rou said:
HeiGou said:
OH FOR GOD SAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You know i wonder sometimes why any one bothers trying to explain all this to some ignorant person who will always deny everything!!!!

How can it be!!! HOW that this is never the americans fault!??????

Now it cant be americans hurting our people NO thats immpossible!!!

it MUST be MUSLIMS!!!!!!!!!!

Cos MUSLIMS Blow everything up and thats what the media says so THEY must be WRONG!

Whatever peeps like you wont be happy till there is a war... you might just get what you want if people like you continue to deny the suffering of innocents like this!

PATHETIC!
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Calm down brother I think you need more prayer and reflection because your anger is getting the best of you.
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i wish i never came upon this thread...

May Allah give peace to the sisters suffering, May Allah bring the unjust to the right path or punish them severely.... man i wanna go and pray now, i feel too disturbed!!!

:offended: :sl:
 
And people though I was crazy when I siad i'd rather be captured by Al Qaeda. They certainly wouldn't do that to Muslim women. And before anyone starts, no i'm not pro-terrorism.
Ya Allah, guide them or destroy them!
:w::rose::peace:
 
^ thats true - even though AQ had problems with other things, atleast they didnt go about 'sexually' assaulting women, infact it was they who stopped it from happening in 90% of Afghanistan.

Jazak'Allah Khair
 
Rou said:
You know i wonder sometimes why any one bothers trying to explain all this to some ignorant person who will always deny everything!!!!
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You and me both. And yet if we are going to have a meaningful dialogue we have to meet somewhere in the middle. Would you agree that some of this, at least, is not the fault of Americans? Americans are not kidnapping Iraqi women and selling them into prostitution in Kuwait. Americans in Kuwait are not paying to have sex with these women. Will you accept that there is any moral responsibility on the part of Iraqi and Kuwaiti men for doing this at all?

How can it be!!! HOW that this is never the americans fault!??????

Now it cant be americans hurting our people NO thats immpossible!!!

it MUST be MUSLIMS!!!!!!!!!!
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Well some of it is obviously the fault of the Americans - the Abu Ghraib pictures prove that. But when it comes to the subject of this article - Iraqi women being kidnapped and sold into prostitution in Kuwait, then obviously the Americans are not doing that. Nor do I think it is reasonable to blame the Americans for not forseeing that the Iraqis would do this and preventing it. As I said, who would have guessed this is how Iraqis would behave? Not me.

Whatever peeps like you wont be happy till there is a war... you might just get what you want if people like you continue to deny the suffering of innocents like this!
PATHETIC!
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I am obviously not denying their suffering. I am denying your "Clash of Civilisations" approach which insists that everything is the fault of the West all the time. If there is war on the way it will not be because I have denied the Americans are to blame for things (I don't because they are). And yet this article is mostly about how awful Iraqis have been to other Iraqis and you get upset when I point this out. Why?
 
knuckles said:
So muslims don't blow themselves up? Libyan terrorists never blew up airplanes? Never killed Jews in Munich? Never killed a Jew on a boat and kicked him overboard? Damn I must need new books
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Im sorry are you within the same world as me mate??? when the hell did i deny any of that stuff??? see here we go again!? you step in dont know jack about whats going on and your off!

u muslims did this u muslims do that!?

my god is there no end to your narrow views?

Let me give u a simple clear example OK........


Example A :

i slap you in the face cos i thought it would be funny!

You get ticked off and slap me back!

I get you arrested and put in jail.

Sound fair?


Example B :

america stands by while palastinans are slughtered and suicide bombed by jews...

Muslims get ticked and suicide bomb jews back!

Muslims get called terrorists and hunted downwhile israel is paid money by america...

Terrorists get ticked and cause 9/11 in america...

Afgan is taken out to be controlled by puppets....

Iraq gets taken out and controlled by puppets...

Muslims all over the world are made to pay for what terrorists do...

I guess that one is fair in your view...whatever mate..
 
HeiGou said:
You and me both. And yet if we are going to have a meaningful dialogue we have to meet somewhere in the middle. Would you agree that some of this, at least, is not the fault of Americans? Americans are not kidnapping Iraqi women and selling them into prostitution in Kuwait. Americans in Kuwait are not paying to have sex with these women. Will you accept that there is any moral responsibility on the part of Iraqi and Kuwaiti men for doing this at all?



Well some of it is obviously the fault of the Americans - the Abu Ghraib pictures prove that. But when it comes to the subject of this article - Iraqi women being kidnapped and sold into prostitution in Kuwait, then obviously the Americans are not doing that. Nor do I think it is reasonable to blame the Americans for not forseeing that the Iraqis would do this and preventing it. As I said, who would have guessed this is how Iraqis would behave? Not me.



I am obviously not denying their suffering. I am denying your "Clash of Civilisations" approach which insists that everything is the fault of the West all the time. If there is war on the way it will not be because I have denied the Americans are to blame for things (I don't because they are). And yet this article is mostly about how awful Iraqis have been to other Iraqis and you get upset when I point this out. Why?
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Do you really think i am that naive to think that every damn muslim is a god damn saint??? NO MATE!

Majority of the problems within middle east is cos weak hearted muslim leaders have been bought by america!

I do not deny muslims causing there own brothers and sisters pain BUT!

You seem to think no american is doing anything wrong!?? loads of americans are doing wrong! and whats worse is the american goverment knows this and is exactly what they want!!!

A Morally weakend people are easier to control! spread fear and crush hopes! lead someone to live in such bad conditions that any kind of existence EVEN under the control f a puppet goverment will seem like hevean!

WAKE UP!!!

I dont hate white people i dont hate black people i dont praise every muslim i dont hate every american!!!

I want justice for the innocent who are torn to shreads for the greed of the powerful!!!!!

stop protecting americans cos they are american!! stick up for those who are true those who deserve support those who bring justice!!

Respect to those americans whos names are hidden who have refused to fight against innocents respect to those who have stepped in the way of a crultey being commited out there im sure there are men of honour there i do not deny that...

but u deny that anything wrong is happning at the hands of americans! where are your morals!??

WAKE! UP!
 
Pr4sE said:
i wish i never came upon this thread...

May Allah give peace to the sisters suffering, May Allah bring the unjust to the right path or punish them severely.... man i wanna go and pray now, i feel too disturbed!!!

:offended: :sl:
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Wrong brother only by opening our eyes to the suffering of what our brothers and sisters are suffering can we truly know what is going on! i for one would prefer to feel at least a small part of there pain than to have ignored there screams!

The wrong doers will pay one day....
 
~Mu'MiNaH~ said:
And people though I was crazy when I siad i'd rather be captured by Al Qaeda. They certainly wouldn't do that to Muslim women. And before anyone starts, no i'm not pro-terrorism.
Ya Allah, guide them or destroy them!
:w::rose::peace:
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This is a perfect example of how a muslim is made to feel before they open there mouths...

(no insult to you sister its an example)

We must justfiy our view even on our sisters being raped!

We must justfiy our anger at our brothers being killed!?

This is a feeling that was put in place any muslim who feels this way is made to feel this way to make sure they think a hundred times before saying anything against those who kill and rape our people...

its sick....

Oh and yeah mate i mentioned mate alot hey!? :okay:
 
Rou said:
Im sorry are you within the same world as me mate??? when the hell did i deny any of that stuff??? see here we go again!? you step in dont know jack about whats going on and your off!

u muslims did this u muslims do that!?

my god is there no end to your narrow views?

Let me give u a simple clear example OK........


Example A :

i slap you in the face cos i thought it would be funny!

You get ticked off and slap me back!

I get you arrested and put in jail.

Sound fair?


Example B :

america stands by while palastinans are slughtered and suicide bombed by jews...

Muslims get ticked and suicide bomb jews back!

Muslims get called terrorists and hunted downwhile israel is paid money by america...

Terrorists get ticked and cause 9/11 in america...

Afgan is taken out to be controlled by puppets....

Iraq gets taken out and controlled by puppets...

Muslims all over the world are made to pay for what terrorists do...

I guess that one is fair in your view...whatever mate..
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Do you know history at all our are you just spouting off nonsense? Name one Israeli suicide bomber that attacked any Arab.

america stands by while palastinans are slughtered and suicide bombed by jews...
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Where are the bodies? Since the Jews are killing so many people in Pal territory everyday where are the mass graves? Oh I get it they disappeared like in Jenin. I guess when Allah takes a soul, he takes body and all.

Muslims get called terrorists and hunted downwhile israel is paid money by america
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America gave $100 million dollars to the PA last year. Yeah that's really hunting them down :rollseyes

Terrorists get ticked and cause 9/11 in america...
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Wait I thought the Mossad and Bush blew up the towers? You guys need to get your stories straight. If that isn't the case Bin Laden never mentions the plight of the Pals as a grievance agianst the US. He cites us being in the Holy Lands of SA which we are out of now.

Afgan is taken out to be controlled by puppets....
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Elected by the Afghan people monitored not by the US but by the UN. The US has not hand in that government

Iraq gets taken out and controlled by puppets...
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Elected by the Iraqi people monitored not by the US but by the UN. The US has not hand in that government

As for being slapped firt by Israelis? Read about Grand Mufti of Palestine Al-Heuseini and get back to me.

Tensions between the Jews and Arabs started to emerge after the 1880s, when European Jews began to immigrate and augment Palestinian Jewish communities by buying up land from Ottoman and individual Arab landholders, and establishing agricultural settlements in the historic lands of Judea and Israel, which were then part of the Ottoman empire [1]. By the 1920s, tension had given way to violence, such as the Riots in Palestine of 1920, Jaffa riots of 1921. To assuage the Arabs, and due to British inability to control Arab violence in the British Mandate any other way, the semi-autonomous Arab Emirate of Transjordan was created in all Palestinian territory east of the Jordan river (roughly 80% of the mandate). The violence continued to mount, however, throughout the 1930s and 40s, resulting in loss of life on all sides, including the Riots in Palestine of 1929, a series of Zionist attacks, the Great Arab Uprising of 1936-1939, the Assassination of British Mandate Officials, and the 1946 King David Hotel bombing.


War of 1948

May 15 - June 10The 1948 Arab-Israeli War, known as the "Israeli War of Independence" or "al-Nakba" (The Disaster), 1948-1949, began after the British withdrawal and the declaration of the State of Israel on May 14, 1948. The Arabs had rejected the November 1947 UN Partition Plan, which proposed the establishment of Arab and Jewish states in Palestine. Arab militias had begun campaigns to control territory inside and outside the designated borders. Joint Jordanian, Egyptian, Syrian, Lebanese and Iraqi troops invaded Palestine, which Israel, the US, the Soviet Union, and UN Secretary-General Trygve Lie called illegal aggression, while China broadly backed the Arab claims. The Arab states proclaimed their aim of a "United State of Palestine"[2] in place of Israel and an Arab state. They considered the UN Plan to be invalid because it was opposed by Palestine's Arab majority, and claimed that the British withdrawal led to an absence of legal authority, making it necessary for them to protect Arab lives and property.[3] About two thirds of Palestinian Arabs fled or were expelled from the territories which came under Jewish control (see Palestinian exodus); practically all of the much smaller number of Jews in the territories captured by the Arabs, for example the Old City of Jerusalem, also fled or were expelled. About 700,000 Arabs (estimates vary from 520,000 to 957,000 [4]) became refugees during the fighting.

The fighting ended with signing of the Rhodes Armistice, which formalized Israeli control of the area allotted to the Jewish state plus just over half of the area allotted to the Arab state. The Gaza Strip was occupied by Egypt and the West Bank by Jordan until June 1967 when they were seized by Israel during the Six-Day War.
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Those look like to big slaps to me.
 

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