Ahmadinejad calls for UN 9/11 investigation

[Trumble]

This is getting silly now.

Agreed. Your inability to understand what I am actually saying does make continuation rather pointless.

The explanation you are offering is not only incorrect but flies in the face of the information you're being given. You are saying that the UK and US agencies were uncertain, she is saying that the UK agencies saw no threat (her and her colleagues opinions).

I am saying that, whatever their opinion, doubt remained sufficient for them to want to cover their a$$. As there was evidence both ways, all of it was included in the report.

That is the agencies official opinion

No, it was her personal opinion. Produce a source confirming MI5 ever has an 'official' opinion on anything. They provide information on which other people can form opinions on which to base their actions.

"I did not know if there was a threat or not" <-- this is uncertain.
"I saw no threat" <-- this is NOT uncertain.

Do you see the difference? From your previous drivel I honestly doubt it.

I think any rational person would believe her recollection of her opinion than your recollection of her opinion.

Again, you are just demonstrating your lack of comprehension. Nobody is disputing what her opinion was; it's in black and white. READ MY POSTS!!

You wrote one line with a link, I think my reply was appropriate.

One line included in one paragraph, included in one post. Just like any other line in any other post, to read in context. Try doing so.

 

[AzizMostafa]

Did the US government believe that Saddam had WMD and nuclear missiles?!
http://typophile.com/node/53099?page1#comment-321741

 

[DancesWithChair]

Way back in 1972, there was a US presidential election.


The Democrats had an office in the Watergate building.


The Republicans organised a break in of the offices of the Democrats to get the plans for the Democrats election strategy.


At the time of the break in, only 4 people in the Republican party knew about it.


Investigative reporters took only 2 years to get to the bottom of the story because a famously deep throat told them about it.




9/11 occurred 9 years ago.


If it were a Bush conspiracy it would have taken 1,000 people to pull off.


And yet there is not one deep throat after 9 years.




We know who did 9/11.


In the aftermath, thousands of Muslim world wide wore t-shirts with photos of Bin Laden and the twin towers burning behind him.


A rich Saudi went to New York to present a cheque for $20,000,000 to help the families of the victims.


He said: “I don’t agree with what was done”


And then said “ but I agree with the reason” ( being a reference to the Israel – Palestinian issue)


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[جوري]

Way back in 1972, there was a US presidential election. The Democrats had an office in the Watergate building. The Republicans organised a break in of the offices of the Democrats to get the plans for the Democrats election strategy. At the time of the break in, only 4 people in the Republican party knew about it. Investigative reporters took only 2 years to get to the bottom of the story because a famously deep throat told them about it. 9/11 occurred 9 years ago. If it were a Bush conspiracy it would have taken 1,000 people to pull off. And yet there is not one deep throat after 9 years. We know who did 9/11. In the aftermath, thousands of Muslim world wide wore t-shirts with photos of Bin Laden and the twin towers burning behind him. A rich Saudi went to New York to present a cheque for $20,000,000 to help the families of the victims. He said: “I don’t agree with what was done” And then said “ but I agree with the reason” ( being a reference to the Israel – Palestinian issue)

That is deep.. doesn't say much about this great country that cave dwelling 'hooligans' took over your planes with plastic knives, did a little voodoo on wtc 7 to take it down demolition style and then drove an invisible plane into the pentagon.. all while leaving that passport behind..

funny stuff

 

[Rabi Mansur]

One of the men working at the Pentagon who was killed when flight 77 hit the building lived near me. Did they just kill him and send his body here for his funeral? Come on. What about Barbara Olson? She was on the flight. I used to watch her on CNN and Fox from time to time.
Did she just disappear? Did the evil government kidnap her with the other 65 passengers? I don't understand how you guys can buy into the conspiracy nonsense.

 

[جوري]

I have no idea what it means to 'send his body for his funeral' Do you expect people to have whole bodies after molten heat brought down steel metal? or the same way it spared the passport?

It isn't conspiracy when the official story is so farcical!
btw I too lost a friend (Muslim) accountant in the towers-- many of us have a vested interest in understanding what is going on considering the aftermath. And I believe that will come to light one day, enough people out there are asking the hard questions!

all the best

 

[Dagless]

One of the men working at the Pentagon who was killed when flight 77 hit the building lived near me. Did they just kill him and send his body here for his funeral? Come on. What about Barbara Olson? She was on the flight. I used to watch her on CNN and Fox from time to time.
Did she just disappear? Did the evil government kidnap her with the other 65 passengers? I don't understand how you guys can buy into the conspiracy nonsense.

What you fail to understand is that just because people don't believe the official story they don't automatically believe the president organised thousands of people to do it. Sure it maybe the case but the point is that we do not know. What we know is there are holes in the original story, that should be enough to cast doubt. I also don't agree with people not being able to keep a secret. History has shown people can keep secrets for a very long time.

 

[Lynx]

If there is a conspiracy behind 9/11 then it most certainly does not involve thousands of people being in on it. There is no chance in hell that 1000s of people could hold a secret like 9/11 for one week let alone 10 years!

 

[جوري]

If there is a conspiracy behind 9/11 then it most certainly does not involve thousands of people being in on it. There is no chance in hell that 1000s of people could hold a secret like 9/11 for one week let alone 10 years!

Is this a new thing that you guys simply introduced to the formula to deflect away from the Issues? Who said that this needs to be carried out by thousands? when it was otherwise carried out by an alleged 19?

more funnies to follow I am sure..

 

[Lynx]

Is this a new thing that you guys simply introduced to the formula to deflect away from the Issues? Who said that this needs to be carried out by thousands? when it was otherwise carried out by an alleged 19?

more funnies to follow I am sure..

There are plenty of people who think there were 'thousands' involved. These are the most far fetched versions of 9/11 conspiracies but they exist nevertheless.

 

[جوري]

There are plenty of people who think there were 'thousands' involved. These are the most far fetched versions of 9/11 conspiracies but they exist nevertheless.

If it took 19 to create that much carnage, then there is no reason to suppose that it would take more than that under any circumstance whether pre-planned or spur of the moment!

all the best

 

[Ramadhan]

I just find it almost impossible to believe that the US government had not been aware that they were going to be attack on the towers AND the pentagon AND the white house on the same day from a group of people whose chief (osama) had been on the top of FBI AND CIA list for a decade and who had "eluded" capture in Sudan few years earlier.

 

[Rabi Mansur]

I just find it almost impossible to believe that the US government had not been aware that they were going to be attack on the towers AND the pentagon AND the white house on the same day from a group of people whose chief (osama) had been on the top of FBI AND CIA list for a decade and who had "eluded" capture in Sudan few years earlier.

I think Bush and cronies were caught off guard. They dropped the ball after the change in administrations. Security was not high on their list of priorities and frankly, they were incompetent.

OTOH I have to wonder if Israel knew and did not pass the info on to the U.S. Israel definitely benefitted from 9/11.

Maybe someday we will know the whole story.

 

[Zafran]

salaam

like wikileaks and Iraq.

peace

 

[titus]

If it took 19 to create that much carnage, then there is no reason to suppose that it would take more than that under any circumstance whether pre-planned or spur of the moment!

What exactly is it that you want us to believe happened on 9/11 then?

If you think the Bush government did it then please tell me how.

 

[Ramadhan]

If you think the Bush government did it then please tell me how

I don't think it is the question of "how the bush government did it" but rather "how the us government let it happened"

Remember, it is the same government that directly and indirectly caused all the deaths, tortures, rapes in Iraq and Afghanistan through lies.

 

[titus]

it is Vale that is claiming that the government actually perpetrated it and tried to blame it on innocent Muslims. That is why she likes to bring up the passport all the time since she believes that this evidence was planted to frame the poor Muslim men blamed for it.

 

[titus]

Also, please remember that no government in the world, even the US government, is omniscient. If it was then there would be no crime in this country. It is naive and unrealistic to believe that the US government could possibly know every plot being made against it.

 

[جوري]

it is Vale that is claiming that the government actually perpetrated it and tried to blame it on innocent Muslims. That is why she likes to bring up the passport all the time since she believes that this evidence was planted to frame the poor Muslim men blamed for it.

indeed.. if you don't think it is planted evidence then I'd really like to hear a logical explanation that belongs to world's affairs rather than stand up comedy in the humor section-- and while at it cover the rest of that colossal farce in an equal style!


all the best!

 

[titus]

A logical explanation for why a passport would survive a plane crash?

Basic physics tells you that it is possible.

Besides, how is this really "evidence"? We know the men were on the plane. There is video of them going through security. Why would they feel the need to plant a passport somewhere?