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if you had loads of alcohol and drank it, it would intoxicate your body and make you drunk right, so taking a drop of this alcohol would be haraam.

If you had loads of cups of vinegar it wouldn't make you drunk and wouldnt intoxicate your body, however you'd get really bad breath and abit burned, so taking a drop of this wouldn't be haraam.

I heard this in a lecture i once listened to quite some time back i hope it makes sense
 
I don't know why people make it so complicated, simply put, vinegar is not an intoxicant.
 
nebula said:
if you had loads of alcohol and drank it, it would intoxicate your body and make you drunk right, so taking a drop of this alcohol would be haraam.

If you had loads of cups of vinegar it wouldn't make you drunk and wouldnt intoxicate your body, however you'd get really bad breath and abit burned, so taking a drop of this wouldn't be haraam.

I heard this in a lecture i once listened to quite some time back i hope it makes sense
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This is what I know to be true as well.

But something I've wondered about- liquor in chocolates, for example. Is it enough to intoxicate you? Or cooking using wine, most of which evaporates in the cooking process; when you eat the final product, I'm pretty sure it doesn't intoxicate. These 2 examples are also forbidden, as far as I know. Why? Is it because the alcohol was added rather than a natural by product of however the things were made?
 
i dont think it would be allowed to use wine in cooking, this topic is very difficult for my understanding but there is an answer im sure
 
As Indonesian, I will talk according to Indonesian Muslim prespective.

Liqueur like whiskey, brandy, beer etc are haram to drink even if that just a drop.

Vinegar maybe contains alcohol. However, there's no one drunk after drank vinegar and that's not intoxicate anyone. There is no Indonesian scholar say vinegar is haram.

There is an Indonesian food named 'Tapai' that made from fermentated casava or rice. Tapai really contains alcohol. However, because Tapai never make people drunk, almost all of Indonesian scholar say Tapai is Halal.

There was a beverage named Green Sand that contains 1% alcohol. Although no one drunk causes by Green Sand, all scholar in Indonesia agree Green Sand is Haram, even after they make a new Green Sand without alcohol.

About use wine in cooking or use rhum in cake. Indonesian scholar say "Avoid". I think that is mean haram.
 
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There r 2 types of vinegar:
1. synthetically manufactured by using chemicals.
2. made from alcohol.

the second type was popular at the time of the sahabah infact it has been mentioned in the books of ahadith.
 
crayon said:
This is what I know to be true as well.

But something I've wondered about- liquor in chocolates, for example. Is it enough to intoxicate you? Or cooking using wine, most of which evaporates in the cooking process; when you eat the final product, I'm pretty sure it doesn't intoxicate. These 2 examples are also forbidden, as far as I know. Why? Is it because the alcohol was added rather than a natural by product of however the things were made?
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No, they are haraam based on the hadith mentioned earlier: "Whatever a lot of which intoxicates, even a little is haraam." Consumption of alcohol itself, even a drop or a hint, is haraam. Cooking with wine is haraam because traces of the wine is in the food and is not completely evaporated, especially in red wine sauce. As for liquor chocolates, ARE YOU KIDDING? non-muslim business associates used to tell me that three of those is like a glass of whiskey!

Anyway, based on the hadith, a drop of intoxicating material mixed in with a whole pot of food renders the whole pot haraam. Vinegar on the other hand is formed OUT of the process and no alcohol whatsoever remains.

And God knows best
 
crayon said:
This is what I know to be true as well.

But something I've wondered about- liquor in chocolates, for example. Is it enough to intoxicate you? Or cooking using wine, most of which evaporates in the cooking process; when you eat the final product, I'm pretty sure it doesn't intoxicate. These 2 examples are also forbidden, as far as I know. Why? Is it because the alcohol was added rather than a natural by product of however the things were made?
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I think you should make a distinction between Chocolate Liquor and Chocolate Liqueur. The first is not alcohol, whereas the latter is.

Chocolate Liquor is a very common ingredient in chocolate products, and its name is very deceptive. It's basically just a smooth, liquid form of chocolate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chocolate_liquor
 
^Oops, I misspelled it, I meant liqueur.. Like, the kind found in "fancy" chocolates, lol.
edit- Okay, I googled and found this . So it's only if it says "chocolate liquor" does it not have alcohol, all other kinds do have it, right?

That's good to know that chocolate liquor has nothing to do with alcohol though, jazak Allah khair.
 
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