Alien and Islam

lol, I notice a pessamistic trend on the board. People trying to stop a good conversation because they don't believe in what is being discussed or because they choose to be "realistic" (whatever the heck that means really) and because we all have to be sad an mourning every second of every day for the tragedies in the world.

Some of us have a very difficult life, some people here have major disabilities, some people come here for a BREAK, some people actually spend their nights in sujood praying for the world....so really it isn't fair to impose that we all cork it because of XYZ reasons. Life goes on. It is difficult enough to smile these days, let's not make it even harder.

Worrying actually doesn't make people proactive whatsoever, it makes people paralyzed. What makes people ACT is INSPIRATION, hope and good news. Very rarely does anger and grief lead to real, permanent action and changes. Most people who have depression don't act, they worry all stinking day. To worry is to not have trust in Allah. I have to pull people out of this mindset on a regular basis, so believe me when I tell you that wallowing in pitty, despair and regret brings nothing good.

We can care about things, cry, make dua and make changes, but we never stop living, looking forward to a better future and using our gifts. We continue until our very last breath. period.

It is a good idea thread on a to start a thread on this topic, but please, lets get back to the subject at hand. I was actually looking forward to it.
 
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fromelsewhere said:
How about if one day we have androids who are half-human and half-robot?
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There could be such a thing, if we are talking about reconstructed humans lol a la darth vader or deus ex. But actual androids? You wouldn't be able to marry a robot or android if it was constructed from scratch as it wouldn't have a soul.

Even an "alien" would have to somehow come from Adam and Eve for them to be suitable for marriage. Something to think about...
 
Umm♥Layth said:
There could be such a thing, if we are talking about reconstructed humans lol a la darth vader or deus ex. But actual androids? You wouldn't be able to marry a robot or android if it was constructed from scratch as it wouldn't have a soul.

Even an "alien" would have to somehow come from Adam and Eve for them to be suitable for marriage. Something to think about...
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Islamically? Maybe so.

Otherwise? A South Korean man married a pillow and a Japanese man married a virtual girlfriend, so...
 
lol a pillow.

Yes, the topic is from an Islamic perspective. I do believe that in order to marry somebody, they have to come from Adam and Eve. That's why we can't marry Jinn. I really don't know the details as I have never considered marrying outside of my species before loooool.

If this is the case then (and going back to the original post, OP where are you? ^o)) in order to marry an alien, the same rules would apply.

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Umm♥Layth said:
Church of Scientology? ^o) (before you try and explain what it is, I am well aware). I question the closed mindedness of some Muslims, that's not what Islam is about. The universe is so vast, you'd have to subscribe to the "earth is flat" theory to no realize the possibilities of creation all around you. Allah said that he created Angels, Jinn and Humans, but he never said ONLY (he also created animals, but they are not considered intelligent life form). This could mean that these are the only intelligent creatures we will ever come to know sure, but it doesn't negate life anywhere else in the universe.

The biggest issue when it comes to finding life in other planets is our severely limited space travel. It doesn't seem to be possible in our lifetime as much as some of us would love that.
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Those who don't believe in fictions are closed minded Muslims ...????
 
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Those who don't believe in fictions are closed minded Muslims ...????
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I did not say that actually. Please read the post of the person I was responding to when I said that. He implied that because we are exploring this possibility, we subscribe to the church of Scientology.In other words, he was labeling the OP and those participating in the discussion without getting to know the subject or paying attention to what was being said. It is popular behavior around here, so I addressed it. Simple.

At no point did I say "those muslims who don't "believe" in science fiction are closed minded", nor did I imply it, nor do I believe that. It isn't wise to take words out of context ;)
 
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fromelsewhere said:
An android is quite different from a toaster. It is a sophisticated robot that is difficult to distinguish from a human, and maybe it would actually be part-human.
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hmm unless the bottom part is human i dont think anyone will want to marry them anyway!!! :Emoji47::Emoji47::Emoji47:
 
Umm♥Layth said:
I did not say that actually. Please read the post of the person I was responding to when I said that. He implied that because we are exploring this possibility, we subscribe to the church of Scientology.In other words, he was labeling the OP and those participating in the discussion without getting to know the subject or paying attention to what was being said. It is popular behavior around here, so I addressed it. Simple.

At no point did I say "those muslims who don't "believe" in science fiction are closed minded", nor did I imply it, nor do I believe that. It isn't wise to take words out of context ;)
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My mistake!
I didn't read his post...
 
Umm♥Layth said:
lol, I notice a pessamistic trend on the board. People trying to stop a good conversation because they don't believe in what is being discussed or because they choose to be "realistic" (whatever the heck that means really) and because we all have to be sad an mourning every second of every day for the tragedies in the world.

Some of us have a very difficult life, some people here have major disabilities, some people come here for a BREAK, some people actually spend their nights in sujood praying for the world....so really it isn't fair to impose that we all cork it because of XYZ reasons. Life goes on. It is difficult enough to smile these days, let's not make it even harder.

Worrying actually doesn't make people proactive whatsoever, it makes people paralyzed. What makes people ACT is INSPIRATION, hope and good news. Very rarely does anger and grief lead to real, permanent action and changes. Most people who have depression don't act, they worry all stinking day. To worry is to not have trust in Allah. I have to pull people out of this mindset on a regular basis, so believe me when I tell you that wallowing in pitty, despair and regret brings nothing good.

We can care about things, cry, make dua and make changes, but we never stop living, looking forward to a better future and using our gifts. We continue until our very last breath. period.

It is a good idea thread on a to start a thread on this topic, but please, lets get back to the subject at hand. I was actually looking forward to it.
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Can you quote me, if you're referring to me in your posts?

:jz:
 
Indefinable said:
Can you quote me, if you're referring to me in your posts?

:jz:
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I actually do quote people when I want to address them directly. Considering that the pessimistic and overly "realist" tone of posts are an ongoing theme on the forum as well as in this thread and several people have participated in this in this thread alone, I didn't find a need to quote you. I have addressed the situation and kindly ask that whoever participates further sticks to the subject at hand (the subject the OP posted about).

Other discussions about other subjects can easily be started by opening a brand new thread, insha'Allah. :)
 
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This is not the case. 'ALL-H Doeth care for every thing in different degrees. Muh:ammad is the best creation since He is the best Human Being ['Insa:n,Bashar]. Barailvis the self proclaimed Ahlussunnah say that he was Nu:r not a human being but only appeared as a human being in the fabric of huminity. All the true Ahlussunnah and real Ahlussunnah reject this opinion. According to them Muh:ammad was a Human Being. Now if Muh:ammad SAVS was not a human being [ May ALL-H Forbid] then in this supposed case any one who would have occupied the vacant place in human beings would have been the best of all creations. Hope that this clearfy my position.
 
To marry a pillow or to marry a ball or a virtual female suppositum all are not-marriages. These are just games. Some day some one will claim that he has married himself . This is not marriage at all.
 
Allah is the Lord of the worlds. The word "Aalimeen" is plural. Allah is Creator of all. He created the visible and the unseen. Mankind is the best of creation and interspecies marriage is forbidden.
 
Haven't gone through this entire thread, but I am pretty sure than in the unlikely event that aliens come to Earth and become a part of our society, we would not be able to marry them, especially if their physiology is different from ours. Trust me, fatwas would be issued. Of course I am not a scholar, but we just have to look at current fatwas now. We cannot marry and have sexual relations with animals, including our closets cousins: monkeys and apes....and we cannot have the same with djinn, who can take the form of humans and are just as intelligent as us, if not more. I don't see how aliens would be viewed any different, unless they were exactly like humans. I think its basic common sense. :)
 
Umm[emoji813 said:
Layth;2963636]There could be such a thing, if we are talking about reconstructed humans lol a la darth vader or deus ex. But actual androids? You wouldn't be able to marry a robot or android if it was constructed from scratch as it wouldn't have a soul.

Even an "alien" would have to somehow come from Adam and Eve for them to be suitable for marriage. Something to think about...
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Nah I was watching a ruqya video and idk if the jinn was lying but idk why she would lie about this but anyways she got pregnaught with the man she possessed and she was even a muslims and like the man didn't even know he had kids and he was married a dunya lady too I don't think he even knew he was married to a jinni toothe ruqya told her to go seek help the jinni scholars at Makkah so I mean I guess there can be interracial children
 
Bobbyflay23 said:
Nah I was watching a ruqya video and idk if the jinn was lying but idk why she would lie about this but anyways she got pregnaught with the man she possessed and she was even a muslims and like the man didn't even know he had kids and he was married a dunya lady too I don't think he even knew he was married to a jinni toothe ruqya told her to go seek help the jinni scholars at Makkah so I mean I guess there can be interracial children
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Yeah, but the jinn has to posses a human body in order for a relationship to happen. There is no way the female jinn got pregnant from the person she possessed, that's not how conception works.
 
Salam Alaykum, our Scholars when asked a question that deals with a future issue that never happened before, respond to the one who asked as follows:
Did this happen? Let it until it happens and we will respond to you?
 
Agreed since marriage between a human being and a Jinn Being of opposite gender is not allowed. The same is safely applicable to aliens.
 

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