Alleged Qu'ran errors/mistakes

[Ali_008]

I enjoyed this alot especially the comic .. I don't think however that this necessarily applies to the dissemination of false information about Islam or casting a blind eye to frank insolence against the religion or Islamic fundamentals especially not while using an Islamic medium for such an outlet.
I'd personally let it go were it not for two persistent verrucas acting as a morality squad with a BB gun!
One who has already professed sarcasm in his intro. And persists on asserting his scholarship and his instant yes man who proclaims the desire to skip over those who attack the person rather than the argument yet takes every opportunity to do just that!
It's not ok in my book and something by way of intro and personal history should indeed come into play when considering the information you're receiving as to the source!

I completely understand what you're talking and agree with it. I know how the threads on this forum transform into verbal wars. I didn't go through all the posts. I just posted the Hadith as a reminder to all my Muslim brothers and sisters.

I hope the doubts are soon cleared and the non-Muslim fellas are blessed with guidance from Al-Hadi. I'll try to pitch in where I can. opcorn:

:Alhumdill

 

[Al-manar]

:salamext:

“I guarantee a house in Jannah for one who gives up arguing, even if he is in the right; and I guarantee a house in the middle of Jannah for one who abandons lying even for the sake of fun; and I guarantee a house in the highest part of Jannah for one who has good manners.”
- Prophet Muhammad :saws:- reported by Imam Abu Dawud​

you didn't put this noble Quranic verse into your consideration,Ali

Holy Quran 29:46 argue only in the best way with the People of the Book, except with those of them who act unjustly. Say, ‘We believe in what was revealed to us and in what was revealed to you; our God and your God are one ; we are devoted to Him.

A Muslim shouldn't be obsessed by debates ,but arguments with the best way "descent,informative" with non Muslims is something the Quran urges....

how many Muslims been victims to the misconceptions and allegations leveled against Islam. and been saved by the counter arguments of the Muslims with well knowledge...

you deny reading a Muslim arguments against some criticism of Islam? I doubt you (or any Muslim) would deny so....

I know Muslims that were on their way to leave Islam ,but thanx for the counter arguments of muslims that eliminated their doubts ...

I know,personally, some muslims who been saved from doubt after reading my articles and book...

Thanks for your support.

civilized men like you should have the most respect and best treatment...

Unfortunately, people here don't seem to want a discussion about this topic.

though the posts that follow your post proves your point ,it seems that me and sis Ğħαrєєвαħ (may be others too) ,would like to...

take care

 

[جوري]

you didn't put this noble Quranic verse into your consideration,Ali
Holy Quran 29:46 argue only in the best way with the People of the Book, except with those of them who act unjustly. Say, ‘We believe in what was revealed to us and in what was revealed to you; our God and your God are one ; we are devoted to Him.

And what does the noble book say of atheists who disrespect Islam, the prophet, misquote or omit or interpret at whim, mock customs, Islamic rituals and the sanctity of muslim women?

Let me refresh for you for you're ever the voice of reason who finds shneuda an asset and Gadaffi a martyr and apparently anti adhan atheists civilized ...truly it's as the prophet (PBUH) said, ''you're with whom you love''

Al-An'am (The Cattle) [6:68] [RECITE]

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Waitha raayta allatheena yakhoodoona fee ayatina faaAArid AAanhum hatta yakhoodoo fee hadeethin ghayrihi waimma yunsiyannaka alshshaytanu fala taqAAud baAAda alththikra maAAa alqawmi alththalimeena​

6:68 When thou seest men engaged in vain discourse about Our signs, turn away from them unless they turn to a different theme. If Satan ever makes thee forget, then after recollection, sit not thou in the company of those who do wrong. ​

 

[Ali_008]

you didn't put this noble Quranic verse into your consideration,Ali

Holy Quran 29:46 argue only in the best way with the People of the Book, except with those of them who act unjustly. Say, ‘We believe in what was revealed to us and in what was revealed to you; our God and your God are one ; we are devoted to Him.

A Muslim shouldn't be obsessed by debates ,but arguments with the best way "descent,informative" with non Muslims is something the Quran urges....

how many Muslims been victims to the misconceptions and allegations leveled against Islam. and been saved by the counter arguments of the Muslims with well knowledge...

you deny reading a Muslim arguments against some criticism of Islam? I doubt you (or any Muslim) would deny so....

I know Muslims that were on their way to leave Islam ,but thanx for the counter arguments of muslims that eliminated their doubts ...

I know,personally, some muslims who been saved from doubt after reading my articles and book...



civilized men like you should have the most respect and best treatment...



though the posts that follow your post proves your point ,it seems that me and sis Ğħαrєєвαħ (may be others too) ,would like to...

take care

I wasn't saying that we should refrain from highlighting what's right. I wanted to just remind us all that even when we're doing that we should be sure that it doesn't turn into an argument. After all, you can only deliver the message, you can't force the listener to believe it. Allah's Rasool :saws: wasn't able to get his uncles to accept Islam. We are mere half-educated Internet shaykhs. Just deliver the message. Don't make it a debate. If they have a doubt, clear it for them, but if they persistently refuse to believe or act unreasonable or like an ignoramus, you can leave with the assurance that you delivered the message.

 

[StopS]

After all, you can only deliver the message, you can't force the listener to believe it.

Yes, that is good advice and makes for a much more relaxed atmosphere.
The only caveat from my side is that this does not make the message true, factual or correct. It could be a belief without any convincing contents. In which case I would be a fool to blindly believe something where I wouldn't know that what I believe is really true.

 

[Muhammad]

The only caveat from my side is that this does not make the message true, factual or correct. It could be a belief without any convincing contents. In which case I would be a fool to blindly believe something where I wouldn't know that what I believe is really true.

Islam does not require us to believe without any proof or rationale. The Qur'an brings forward many arguments and signs, and presents them in different ways - challenging people to think and encouraging them to use their intellect. The Qur'an itself is a miracle proving the truth of its message. So the message that is delivered is one with firm evidences.

 

[StopS]

Islam does not require us to believe without any proof or rationale. The Qur'an brings forward many arguments and signs, and presents them in different ways - challenging people to think and encouraging them to use their intellect. The Qur'an itself is a miracle proving the truth of its message. So the message that is delivered is one with firm evidences.

I was talking in general about delivering a message, not the Koran specifically.

You say the Koran "brings forward many arguments". Can you show an example of one?

Later you claim that "the message that is delivered is one with firm evidences". I can't think of one. Can you show an example of one?

 

[Hulk]

 

[StopS]

Belief in God and Atheism

Oh dear! So many misconceptions!
If you do not believe in a god, you don't believe there is evidence for the existence of one. BUT: you don't know if there is a god. So even if you don't see evidence, there can still be a god.
Asserting that not believing automatically voids any god or concept of a god is fallacious.

Then, his "proof for the existence of god" is mere wishful thinking and an appeal to emotion. There is no proof, as much as he'd like there to be.

Wrong again. Of course most atheists today can understand theists because in today's environment most atheists were still brought up as believers. It will be different in a few decades.

Wrong again: there is no proof for either theists or the people reacting to the claims: atheists. And atheists require no proof, because they only react to claims. Believers are required to have faith, atheists aren't.

Wrong again: not every argument for atheism rests upon evil. That's totally ludicrous and shows he's only right about one thing: he does not understand non-theists.

What is it with this man? This is getting worse and worse. Why doesn't he ask an atheist what this is all about instead of spreading this nonsense? How can someone, who does not believe in the existence of a god, provide a definition for what there is no evidence for??? Oh come on, some basic logics is not asking too much, is it? The person making the claim needs to provide the definition and the proof.

And now conflating atheists and Christians is getting comical and totally absurd. No, sorry, this is not thought out at all. And I know he's capable of some good speeches. This is not one of them.

 

[Hulk]

Why is it atheists require no proof for their claim? As I have said before, if you were to find a watch in the middle of a desert you wouldn't deduce that it came from nowhere would you? Of course not, you'd deduce that it had a designer, manufacturer, etc. I look around me and I see creation, and that is how I can deduce that there is a Creator. How can you deduce that there is no Creator? Because you can't see/hear/feel/touch/taste Him?

 

[StopS]

Why is it atheists require no proof for their claim? As I have said before, if you were to find a watch in the middle of a desert you wouldn't deduce that it came from nowhere would you? Of course not, you'd deduce that it had a designer, manufacturer, etc. I look around me and I see creation, and that is how I can deduce that there is a Creator. How can you deduce that there is no Creator? Because you can't see/hear/feel/touch/taste Him?

Because atheists don't make the claim. Atheists react to claims.
Theist = believes there is evidence for the existence of God.
A-Theist = opposite.

Show an atheist a god or stop believing in a god and atheism will immediately vanish by definition.

Oh dear, the tired watchmaker argument. If the sand looked like watches I would not notice, would I? You only see a watch because you know a watch.
No, you don't see creation. You see things you have no explanation for and substitute "I don't know" with "God".

Because humans are so badly equipped, we can't "see/hear/feel/touch/taste" most things. That's why we have developed science as a tool to help us discover the unknown. But this has nothing to with the super-natural you are relying on as an explanation.

 

[جوري]

For brevity' sake and because my keyboard is malfunctioning what science have you that explains the world you find yourself in without loaning itself to some enfeebled fairy tale? If you're going to use science then I challenge you to use it all the way to explain in a demonstrable fashion the origin of life its perpetuation all the way to higher reticular function...
Can you do that?
Atheism is nothing more than a belief just another faulty one in a sea of.
It becomes incumbent upon you when you use terms like 'science' to back up a double negative - you've neither given a logical explanation to the world we find ourselves in nor have you conceded the obvious default conclusion while adhering to such things as the law of parsimony!
Yeah oh dear indeed!
I'd love for you to work your way up from a single celled organism and I'll bd generous enough to give you even that since a single cell is already complex as is and then have you work yourself up to a species any specie just adding amino acids to one another and somehow rendering them functional and giving them form. try denaturing and reannealing won't you pls.
My God won't I be the first front row and center applauding you as you claim your nobel.. Finally an atheist without tired rehashed rhetoric.

 

[StopS]

Look, you have no clue what you are saying and I am not interested in exchanging insults. So, why don't we just ignore each other, ok?

 

[Ğħαrєєвαħ]

Greetings of peace,

Oh dear, the tired watchmaker argument.

I believe that brother Hulk has a valid argument.

If the sand looked like watches I would not notice, would I? You only see a watch because you know a watch.
No, you don't see creation. You see things you have no explanation for and substitute "I don't know" with "God".

All things have an explanation for them, for example from where they originated.

It's not simply the 'i don't know' we substitute with God, we say that there was simply a creator for that which was created. In other words someone must have created it in order for it to exist, so therefore we do know. it can't have just 'popped' out of nowhere.

Because humans are so badly equipped, we can't "see/hear/feel/touch/taste" most things. That's why we have developed science as a tool to help us discover the unknown. But this has nothing to with the super-natural you are relying on as an explanation.

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I do not believe humans are badly equipped, we have eyes to see, ears to listen, brain to realize, heart to feel, live on planet earth where we have air to breath.

You see science hasn't all the answers, science is only what man discovered, not what he created, that's where it ends. We live on an earth given all that helps us live to the next day, but then what's our purpose? Just live on and on till it all ends? or is there a purpose we have?

Where did the first man come from? or how did first human step foot on earth?

 

[Hulk]

Because atheists don't make the claim. Atheists react to claims.
Theist = believes there is evidence for the existence of God.
A-Theist = opposite.

Show an atheist a god or stop believing in a god and atheism will immediately vanish by definition.

I notice atheists love to place themselves in the position of "not having to explain anything", this is why many come to forums to "debate" isn't it? Whenever the question is placed upon them it's "I make no claims, you are the one making claims.".

Oh dear, the tired watchmaker argument. If the sand looked like watches I would not notice, would I? You only see a watch because you know a watch.

I was just using a watch as an example, it can be applied to anything. Yes in such a situation the watch would stand out but in truth everything else can be analysed including the sand itself.

No, you don't see creation. You see things you have no explanation for and substitute "I don't know" with "God".

There's another claim which I'm sure you will say you don't need to have "proof" for because it is a "reaction to a claim". Yes there are many things in terms of science that I do not know but you don't need knowledge of science to deduce whether or not something has an origin. You're trying to say that theists use God as a "shortcut" to things they can't explain, but that isn't the case at all. As I said, I see a "work of art" and I believe that it has a Designer. Just because I know how the paint, strokes, shades, etc works doesn't make me think "oh I know how this works so that means it didn't come from a Designer". What kind of flawed logic is that?

Because humans are so badly equipped, we can't "see/hear/feel/touch/taste" most things. That's why we have developed science as a tool to help us discover the unknown. But this has nothing to with the super-natural you are relying on as an explanation.

It's good that you are willing to admit that not everything in existence would be perceivable by purely our 5 senses alone. We do have tools that help us identify these things.

But according to your logic, if a microscope hasn't been invented yet, then you'd probably not believe that microscopic things like bacteria exists.

That said, I am not trying to place God in the realm of the tangible. I am just reminding you that our ability to perceive is very limited, and while we have developed tools to aid in perceiving the things we are not able to on our own it would be foolish to not even put into consideration that our tools have their limits as well.

I think if you get yourself out of the "supernatural" box you'd be able to see things a bit clearly. I'm not talking about superstitious things. I'm talking about a Creator that transcends what our five senses can perceive but yet our intellect can understand. There are no broken mirrors or black cats here. Look at fresh water fishes and salt water fishes, do you think they are aware of each other's existence? They're in totally "separate dimensions".

If my beliefs are something like believing that everytime thunder strikes an invisible Thor-like deity is out there doing using his hammer or whatnot to produce thunder and lightning then you would certainly prove me wrong by simply explaining to me how lightning and thunder works. But that is not by concept of belief, so your argument of me using God to explain what I don't understand holds no water.

 

[StopS]

Greetings of peace,

Thank you, greetings.

I believe that brother Hulk has a valid argument.

That is well possible.

All things have an explanation for them, for example from where they originated.

Not really. What is the origin of the Higgs particle, a water puddle or the number 15?

It's not simply the 'i don't know' we substitute with God, we say that there was simply a creator for that which was created. In other words someone must have created it in order for it to exist, so therefore we do know. it can't have just 'popped' out of nowhere.

Why do you think "someone" must have created everything? Why not "something"? Oh, yes, everything could have popped out of nowhere. On the other hand, if you believe a super-natural entity, a creator, God, created everything, what material was used? What process? If a perfect creator would have created a solar system, would it have erratic orbits, asteroids crashing into planets and black holes devouring entire galaxies?

I do not believe humans are badly equipped, we have eyes to see, ears to listen, brain to realize, heart to feel, live on planet earth where we have air to breath.

I understand your point, but if you analyse what there is to see and what humans can see, it is not a lot. And we need glasses with eyes which fail and are badly developed with a blind spot and upside-down vision. The heart is there to pump blood and has a high failure rate. Planet Earth tries to kill humans and life in general with diseases, poisons, earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanoes, hail, radiation, droughts, tornadoes, epidemics, lightning, floods, avalanches, fires, asteroids, etc. etc

You see science hasn't all the answers, science is only what man discovered, not what he created, that's where it ends. We live on an earth given all that helps us live to the next day, but then what's our purpose? Just live on and on till it all ends? or is there a purpose we have?

I completely agree with you. Science is a tool, just like a hammer. Science observes, measures, analyses, describes our natural environment and is capable of making predictions. It has nothing in common with religion, so I would prefer to ignore it when discussion super-natural claims. Why do humans necessarily need to have a purpose? What is the purpose of a pig?

Where did the first man come from? or how did first human step foot on earth?

Man? Do you mean humans? Why is this a religious question? I could answer and then we spend time discussing evolution, which few people are qualified to discuss, which is why I would like to keep science out of this.
So my answer is: I don't really know. Do you know? Do you know the process?

 

[StopS]

I notice atheists love to place themselves in the position of "not having to explain anything", this is why many come to forums to "debate" isn't it? Whenever the question is placed upon them it's "I make no claims, you are the one making claims.".

Hahaha, you make it sound as though I am just plain lazy. No, I am not. It is true by definition. And I am having a pleasant conversation with other people, where we might disagree on a detail, but we all share the same atmosphere and environment. Why poison it?

Do I come here to debate? Not really. If there really is something to debate, I am willing to engage in debating something, but not for the sake of debating. A word of advice: there is no such thing as "Atheists love to..." because there is no group identity of atheists. Atheists are all individuals and all very different.

I was just using a watch as an example, it can be applied to anything. Yes in such a situation the watch would stand out but in truth everything else can be analysed including the sand itself.

Ooops, that means I made a mistake. What I wanted to show is that the argument is incredibly wrong when you look at the premisses. A simple question: is a watch found in nature and replicates or forms itself? No, that is the difference and why this immediately fails. I know the examples with a phone or a 747, they are equally fallacious.

There's another claim which I'm sure you will say you don't need to have "proof" for because it is a "reaction to a claim". Yes there are many things in terms of science that I do not know but you don't need knowledge of science to deduce whether or not something has an origin. You're trying to say that theists use God as a "shortcut" to things they can't explain, but that isn't the case at all. As I said, I see a "work of art" and I believe that it has a Designer. Just because I know how the paint, strokes, shades, etc works doesn't make me think "oh I know how this works so that means it didn't come from a Designer". What kind of flawed logic is that?

The flaw is that there is no logic. But let me be very clear here: I do NOT know there is no creator. I do NOT exclude the absolute possibility that I am wrong and that a creator did in fact create the Universe and life. But until I see evidence I will say: I don't know. I know how nature works and how things changed over the last 3 billion years, but what happened before that: I don't know. You don't accept that and claim: I know what happened. But can you demonstrate that to me? No!

It's good that you are willing to admit that not everything in existence would be perceivable by purely our 5 senses alone. We do have tools that help us identify these things.

But according to your logic, if a microscope hasn't been invented yet, then you'd probably not believe that microscopic things like bacteria exists.

That said, I am not trying to place God in the realm of the tangible. I am just reminding you that our ability to perceive is very limited, and while we have developed tools to aid in perceiving the things we are not able to on our own it would be foolish to not even put into consideration that our tools have their limits as well.

I think if you get yourself out of the "supernatural" box you'd be able to see things a bit clearly. I'm not talking about superstitious things. I'm talking about a Creator that transcends what our five senses can perceive but yet our intellect can understand. There are no broken mirrors or black cats here. Look at fresh water fishes and salt water fishes, do you think they are aware of each other's existence? They're in totally "separate dimensions".

If my beliefs are something like believing that everytime thunder strikes an invisible Thor-like deity is out there doing using his hammer or whatnot to produce thunder and lightning then you would certainly prove me wrong by simply explaining to me how lightning and thunder works. But that is not by concept of belief, so your argument of me using God to explain what I don't understand holds no water.

No, I don't think I am that difficult. If I would have lived 150 years ago and Semmelweis would have told me to wash my hands I would have laughed - but thought about the possibility of his explanation. Bacteria have other means of proving their existence, as is documented in the Hindu Athartarveda, which suspects living organisms causing harm to humans ~2000 years ago.

So why would I want to invoke a super-natural origin? Because it provides comfort? The Koran mentions thunder, which is used to "smite" humans. Can thunder do that? No, so I need to find an explanation why the Koran would mention thunder as punishment for humans. That's when I start explaining this with knowledge and allegoric interpretations, because people did not know about the cause of thunder and it could just demonstrate the power of God as the noise is is pretty impressive. What other explanation is there?

 

[جوري]

You'd indeed be the type to laugh at Ignaz some century or so ago as its indeed easy to fall into linear thoughts than abstraction and be a pioneer!
Natural as opposed to 'super natural' is already a standard that was borne of our imagination based on observation to which we compare things that fall off - it's already an imaginary baseline the rules would change outside our own planet ... It's not so unfathomable that what we conceive as natural is anything but miraculous but the abundance of 'natural' turns blind those whose heart is already dead.
You'll never have an answer to the last why. You can though not always explain the how but the why will leave so much unanswered ... And as stated until you can come up with a purely scientific and demonstrable way to explain or 'create' ex nihilo you are in absolutely no position to speak of what provides comfort .. Clearly your own beliefs as you've shared and displayed provid no explanation to the world we find ourselves in and your attempts to defend them are sophmoric at best ..
I am not writing this for you at any rate but for the Muslims and the guests!

 

[Ğħαrєєвαħ]

Thank you, greetings.

You are welcome. and sorry for the long response, no intention to bore anyone.

Not really. What is the origin of the Higgs particle, a water puddle or the number 15?

Not sure what a higgs particle is, please enlighten me. Edit:See post after mine #100

Water puddle - can be caused by rain or water split by someone - created.

Number 15 - I don't know who or how it was created. Of course some human did create it in order to make things easier in our every day life. Perhaps you can correct me or add detail to my response.

Why do you think "someone" must have created everything? Why not "something"? Oh, yes, everything could have popped out of nowhere. On the other hand, if you believe a super-natural entity, a creator, God, created everything, what material was used? What process?

In terms of 'everything' popping out of nowhere, could that mean us humans too? The first human came from nowhere? or exactly what are those things that came from nowhere?

According to the Qur'aan man was created of a clot of blood, clay/dust and water.

He has created man from a clot (a piece of thick coagulated blood).[Al Qur'aan 96:2]

And it is He Who has created man from water, and has appointed for him kindred by blood, and kindred by marriage. And your Lord is Ever All-Powerful to do what He wills.[Al Qur'aan 25:54]

If a perfect creator would have created a solar system, would it have erratic orbits, asteroids crashing into planets and black holes devouring entire galaxies?

Evidence for any of this, please.

I understand your point, but if you analyse what there is to see and what humans can see, it is not a lot. And we need glasses with eyes which fail and are badly developed with a blind spot and upside-down vision. The heart is there to pump blood and has a high failure rate. Planet Earth tries to kill humans and life in general with diseases, poisons, earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanoes, hail, radiation, droughts, tornadoes, epidemics, lightning, floods, avalanches, fires, asteroids, etc. etc

I agree, although we cannot see a lot, but we do know a lot.

The Qur'aan does teach us about the unknown or the unseen.

Heart having a high failure rate, if that's the case why do you think people live years on? or the human race still in existence?

Regards to diseases in accordance to Islaam are a blessing for 'some', though not for all. For some it can be a removal of sins, and for others it can be a punishment. This is just in brief.

As muslims we have our answers, for example we have our trials or calamities, and during these trials are taught how to deal with them.


And certainly, We shall test you with something of fear, hunger, loss of wealth, lives and fruits, but give glad tidings to As-Sabirun (the patient).Who, when afflicted with calamity, say: "Truly! To Allah we belong and truly, to Him we shall return."
They are those on whom are the Salawat (i.e. who are blessed and will be forgiven) from their Lord, and (they are those who) receive His Mercy, and it is they who are the guided ones.[Al Qur'aan 2: 155-157]

As muslims we believe we will be tested on earth, this life is a test and temporary indeed, regardless of whatever faith or walk of life you come from, we all know well that we'll be leaving earth one day. But while were on earth we try make the best out of it, as for muslims we strive to live in accordance to how our creator has taught us.

Hadith - Bukhari 7:564

I visited Allah's Apostle while he was suffering from a high fever. I touched him with my hand and said, "O Allah's Apostle! You have a high fever." Allah's Apostle said, "Yes, I have as much fever as two men of you have." I said, "Is it because you will get a double reward?" Allah's Apostle said, "Yes, no Muslim is afflicted with harm because of sickness or some other inconvenience, but that Allah will remove his sins for him as a tree sheds its leaves."

Poisons - Well, one may accidentally drink poison, or poisoned by someone in which case they're not at fault, rather the one who fed them the poison. God has nothing to do with human acts, but the person or victim has returned to his lord/creator, and he is not unjust. A person may also intentionally take poison, this is not the fault of earth or God, the person has been given a brain to use, they drank out of their own free will in which they're harming themselves and not the earth or anyone else.

In terms of natural disasters, please see the following videos as they're much better at explaining than myself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rK9u2fOmGvY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_deeNAIj2M

I completely agree with you. Science is a tool, just like a hammer. Science observes, measures, analyses, describes our natural environment and is capable of making predictions. It has nothing in common with religion, so I would prefer to ignore it when discussion super-natural claims. Why do humans necessarily need to have a purpose? What is the purpose of a pig?

Indeed, it does prove some of what the Qur'aan has stated, meaning the Qur'aan being revealed to a man centuries ago, but science has only many discoveries in recent times.

Is that saying we then have no purpose?

I think it's a very important question one should ask themselves at some point in life, i mean theres no harm in doing so?

Man? Do you mean humans? Why is this a religious question? I could answer and then we spend time discussing evolution, which few people are qualified to discuss, which is why I would like to keep science out of this.
So my answer is: I don't really know. Do you know? Do you know the process?

Not really a religious question, just a general one.

If you do believe in evolution, either way, I'd still ask you, How did the first created being step foot on earth?

It's a little like that question that people often ask 'Which came first, the egg or the chicken?"

 

[جوري]

Not sure what a higgs particle is, please enlighten me.

http://www.islamicboard.com/general/134314223-does-higgs-boson-undermine-gods-existence.html