Alleged Satanic Verses

This is the first time i've heard about the satanic verses. Alhamdulillah, i've learnt many things on this site. I knew muslims didnt like Salman Rushdie for defaming the prophet SAW, but i had no idea what he said. what was his book about?

Brother, his book is just a filthy attack on the Prophet (saw), really disgusting actually, I haven't read it myself and nor do I plan to but here is a taste of his vulgar style:

Prophet Abraham (as) is called a 'bast***' (nauzubillah) p.95
He calls Salman al-Farsi (ra) 'some sort of bum' , Hazrat Bilal (ra) an 'enormous black monster' [nauzubillah] (pgs 101-102)


Diffenitley a sick man who deserved his punishment. He also frequently calls prophet Muhammad (saw) 'Mahound' in his book, just like Christians did in the time of the crusades.
 
I recently saw Rushdi on cnn i never knew who he was. Recently i read about his book and was going to post it on this site for refutation but alhumdillaah that was amazing refutation.
 
Reply to alpiana for copy/pasting absurdities from Kuffar at ****** .>Alleged Satanic Verses


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****** edited by Al Madani : 2 Days Ago at 12:29 AM. Reason: It's better to not link to them or mention the site
 
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i think it's really sad how some have to make up lies about islam in order to refute it. it's one thing if you don't agree with the beliefs, it's another thing to pull fiction from your bum and call it fact.

oh well...they only hurt themselves
 
NoName55, bro I don't think you should spend time refuting things like that. it's loss of time.
 
i think it's really sad how some have to make up lies about islam in order to refute it. it's one thing if you don't agree with the beliefs, it's another thing to pull fiction from your bum and call it fact.

oh well...they only hurt themselves
are you being abusive towards me or the kuffaar?

Edit: even if you are addressing the kuffar, you are still using profanities

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I dont make thing up but he does:
http://www.islamicboard.com/758071-post2.html
http://www.islamicboard.com/compara...her-misconceptions-post758071.html#post758071
 
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2.106] Whatever communications We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring one better than it or like it. Do you not know that Allah has power over all things?
 
^^ this is refutation not debating forum, so be gone and cease and desist from dirtying this thread, your nonsense has been dealt with by me, in another thread, go find and read that
 
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2.106] Whatever communications We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, We bring one better than it or like it. Do you not know that Allah has power over all things?

this is the why just relying on the english translation is dangerous....if you go to the arabic text, you'd see that 'communication' is the word 'aya' which can mean 'verse' or 'miracle'. Furthermore, that section of quran was talking about the people of the book, the people of Moses (pbuh) and Jesus (AS)... the miracles of Moses (pbuh) and Jesus (AS) have long been forgotten and have been replaced with a better miracle, the quran...al hamdullilah....

"Whichever Ayah We relinquish or cause to be forgotten We replace it with its equal or with that which is greater, did you not know that God is capable of all things?" 2:106

What the interpreters claim is that this verse confirms that some Quranic verses are invalidated by others. They interpret ‘Ayah’ in this verse to mean a verse in the Quran.

However the word Ayah, as used in the Quran, can have one of four different meanings:

a- It could mean a miracle from God as in:

"And We supported Moses with nine profound Ayah’s (miracles)." 17:101

b- It could also mean an example for people to take heed from as in:

"And the folk of Noah, when they disbelieved the messengers, We have drowned them and set an Ayah (example) of them for all people." 25:37

c- The word ‘Ayah’ can also mean a sign as in:

"He said, ‘My Lord, give me an ‘Ayah’ (sign).’ He said, ‘Your Ayah is that you will not speak to people for three consecutive nights." 19:10

d- It could mean a verse in the Quran, as in:

"This is a book that We have sent down to you that is sacred, perhaps they will reflect on its ‘Ayat’ (verses)." 38:29

Now if we consider verse 106 of Sura 2, we can easily spot that the word ‘Ayah’ in this particular verse could not mean a verse in the Quran. It can mean any of the other meanings (miracle, example or sign) but not a verse in the Quran. This is because of the following reasons:

1- The words "cause to be forgotten" could not be applicable if the word ‘Ayah’ in this verse meant a verse in the Quran. How can a verse in the Quran become forgotten? For even if the verse was invalidated by another (as the interpreters falsely claim) it will still be part of the Quran and thus could never be forgotten.

2- The words "We replace it with its equal" would be meaningless if the word ‘Ayah’ in this verse meant a Quranic verse, simply because it would make no sense for God to invalidate one verse then replace it with one that is identical to it!

3- If the word ‘Ayah’ in verse 106 meant a miracle an example or a sign, then all the words of the verse would make perfect sense. The words "cause to be forgotten" can apply to all three meanings and that is what actually happens with the passing of time. The miracles of Moses and Jesus have long been forgotten. We only believe in them because they are mentioned in the Quran.

Similarly the words "We replace with its equal or with that which is greater" is in line with the miracles of God. God indeed replaces one miracle with its equal or with one that is greater than it. Consider the following verse :

"And We have sent Moses with Our Ayah’s (miracles or signs) to Pharaoh and his elders proclaiming : ‘I am a messenger from the Lord of the universe’. When he brought them our Ayah’s they laughed at him. Every Ayah We showed them was greater than the one that preceded it." 43:46-48
 
i just have to add how i think it's funny how alot of these anti islamic sites spend night and day going over trying to find supposed contradictions in the quran, as if that is what keeps them from entering islam.... yet they stand and swear by the blatant contradictions in their own religous texts.....:skeleton:
 
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i just have to add how i think it's funny how alot of these anti islamic sites spend night and day going over trying to find supposed contradictions in the quran, as if that is what keeps them from entering islam.... yet they stand and swear by the blatant contradictions in their own religous texts.....:skeleton:

Yeah, I've been on Christian and Mormon and Hindu forums & when you point out the contradictions in their texts, they start ranting about "Interpretation" and "In Context". if you point out the context is pretty much exactly what you have just argued, they'll get a Clergyman or a "scholor" (Lol), to make some judgement on it, effectively altering the words of their scripture situationally. Then they'll close the thread.

Weird how those sites do that.+o(
 
Yeah, I've been on Christian and Mormon and Hindu forums & when you point out the contradictions in their texts, they start ranting about "Interpretation" and "In Context". if you point out the context is pretty much exactly what you have just argued, they'll get a Clergyman or a "scholor" (Lol), to make some judgement on it, effectively altering the words of their scripture situationally. Then they'll close the thread.

Weird how those sites do that.+o(

But then you'd have to check the validity of the context being brought forth. An example would be a contradiction in the Bible, a person harmonises the text, without knowledge of the actual original composition. So their harmonisation might be invalid. I think that's the turning point for me. I hardly ever asked anyone to admit to the contradictions, but rather just assesed their explanation to it.
 

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