Am I evil?

[ardianto]

[MENTION=38408]Serinity[/MENTION]

Pygoscelis is right, you should talk to other Muslims to seek guidance. Yes, bro, the cause of your doubt is because you have been trapped by a group that claim themselves as the only right group, while other Muslim groups are deviant. I guess, they use hadith of 73 sects to claim themselves as the only saved sect. It cause doubt in your heart. In one side you that their Islam is extreme. In another side you feel that if you disagree with them, then you are deviant.

Brother, only Allah who know which the saved sect is!. So don't be deceived by a group which claim that they are the saved sect.

Leave them, and start learn Islam from other Muslim scholars. Do not stuck only in one group, but learn from scholars from various groups.

 

[Serinity]

I know being good is Islamic, but they make it seem being good makes you deviant, being human makes you deviant. Like I follow my fitrah and it says that what those guys say is wrong.

So Following my fitrah is following Islam.

 

[Serinity]

One cannot have compassion, mercy, or kindness without empathy. I haven't read anywhere that we are supposed to be cold callous people towards any. And you are right. It is illogical. How can you show mercy toward a others without empathy? How can you feel empathy without knowing of your own pain first?

How can one be giving if they only want for themselves?

I understand you are of Islamic Faith and will not tell you to read other books; but I will say that perhaps you need to read yours without preconceived bias.

You cannot have mercy without compassion.

Lack of mercy on our part towards all without bias, will be reciprocated back to us in our judgement.

Peace friend.

I wish I could be of more help.

Be thankful to GOD for all things, mostly tests and trials. As with great potential comes great responsibility.

This is what I've been suppresing for so long, whenever I feel empathy or sad, or affection to a kafir, a verse stating no love to kuffar who oppose Allah SWT..

Oh, I didn't even understand the word compassion.. I thought "so show compassion without compassion, artificial compassion?" but nooooooooooooo

 

[Umm Abed]

You were doing so well, Serinity, hope you find peace within yourself again.

 

[Serinity]

you know what. I will just copy the Islam of @Kiro and let go of all this hatred and stuff.

I will seek out the peaceful Muslims and avoid the violent ones.

 

[Umm Abed]

you know what. I will just copy the Islam of @Kiro and let go of all this hatred and stuff.

I will be as I am to Muslims and kafirs, although there will always be a gate closed, which is fine tbh.

I dont think you had any hatred to start of with, you'r just confused with your own feelings.

Remember dont rely too much on your logic. Follow Islam with true acceptance.

 

[Serinity]

I dont think you had any hatred to start of with, you'r just confused with your own feelings.

Remember dont rely too much on your logic. Follow Islam with true acceptance.

Well, my Fitrah says to be as good as you can be and just and stuff. Islam says to enjoin good and forbid evil, and I know what that is.

I will do what I can in my wisdom and if I go against the Quran then may Allah SWT forgive me, cause I honestly can't keep reffering to the Qur'an.. Even if I wanted to.

 

[Umm Abed]

Well, my Fitrah says to be as good as you can be and just and stuff. Islam says to enjoin good and forbid evil, and I know what that is.

I will do what I can in my wisdom and if I go against the Quran then may Allah SWT forgive me, cause I honestly can't keep reffering to the Qur'an.. Even if I wanted to.

I trust that you do not go against the Qur'an. If you want to refer to the Qur'an and have a doubt in a certain matter it is better to get it cleared first.

 

[Serinity]

I think I need more exposure to good Muslims, and their view on Islam, and a peaceful Imam. ( I know one Alhamdulillah, my brother know that is. )

Dw tho, I am firm on my Aqeedah, it is just the morale side.

 

[Umm Abed]

Alhamdulillah. Keep in good company always.

May Allah keep you firm on deen of Islam ameen.

 

[Insignificant]

you know what. I will just copy the Islam of @Kiro and let go of all this hatred and stuff.

I will seek out the peaceful Muslims and avoid the violent ones.

May Allah subhano wa T'ala elevate the characters of the Ummah, a little closer to that of Rasulallah SAWS. Amin

 

[Insignificant]

Wow... Baraakallah

 

[Serinity]

I have 5 verses or so that causes me doubts.. Or should I say my understanding of it.

JazakAllah khayr everyone for being patient with me and kind. This is the Ummah of The Prophet SAW. I feel empty tho. But I know what I should do. May Allah SWT enlighten me and make all the doubts come to mind when I speak to this Imam and finish it once and for all. Ameen.

Btw, should we really be judgmental against those kuffar who attack us? there are 2 verses, which say that if the one who attacks you - do not be kind, or is it that we should not befriend but still be kind?

I mean, there are kuffar with a preconcieved bias against Islam, so attacking them or being rude and cruel would just further them in their hatred, right?

I admit, I have some preconcieved bias towards Islam, but I do not act upon it cuz I know these doubts are wrong and from shaytaan.

 

[popsthebuilder]

This is what I've been suppresing for so long, whenever I feel empathy or sad, or affection to a kafir, a verse stating no love to kuffar who oppose Allah SWT..

Oh, I didn't even understand the word compassion.. I thought "so show compassion without compassion, artificial compassion?" but nooooooooooooo

By kafir I assume you mean non believer.

Know that the only real non believer is he who knows the will of GOD in his life yet actively goes against it.

Consider the rest ignorant and as such not exactly against GOD

 

[Serinity]

By kafir I assume you mean non believer.

Know that the only real non believer is he who knows the will of GOD in his life yet actively goes against it.

Consider the rest ignorant and as such not exactly against GOD

I understand that they may not be against Allah SWT, and may Allah SWT guide those, and Allah SWT is the best judge, and I can't judge.

But the one's who know about Islam and has not accepted it after knowing it etc. Is a kafir. I can't exactly call someone who doesn't believe in Islam a muslim, as one is only a Muslim by believing in Islam.

So per Islam anyone who is not a Muslim is a kafir, and Allah SWT knows best how their end is. After all Allah SWT is All-Just.

But it isn't for us to sentence someone to Hellfire. we can only assume, and the rest is up to Allah SWT.

 

[Pygoscelis]

I understand that they may not be against Allah SWT, and may Allah SWT guide those, and Allah SWT is the best judge, and I can't judge.

But the one's who know about Islam and has not accepted it after knowing it etc. Is a kafir. I can't exactly call someone who doesn't believe in Islam a muslim, as one is only a Muslim by believing in Islam.

So per Islam anyone who is not a Muslim is a kafir, and Allah SWT knows best how their end is. After all Allah SWT is All-Just.

But it isn't for us to sentence someone to Hellfire. we can only assume, and the rest is up to Allah SWT.

Are you assuming that everyone that hears of Islam believes it and that those that don't become muslims knowingly reject it?

Pops is Christian, so is a non-believer in Islam. Pops isn't that way because he intends to go against God. He simply has a different understanding of who God is and what God wants. I, as an atheist, have a third understanding, and I am also not holding it for some malicious reason or to knowingly go against God.

As for not feeling compassion for non-muslims, and as for hating, does it actually say anywhere in the Quran that you are to hate? Not loving doesn't mean hating. And refraining from for example going to a party with somebody where there will be alcohol and dancing doesn't mean hating either.

If the Quran really did require you to hate non-muslims, I dont think Islam could have survived long nevermind spread so widely. After all, every convert was once a non-muslim.

 

[Pygoscelis]

Know that the only real non believer is he who knows the will of GOD in his life yet actively goes against it.

A non-believer does not know the will of God, by definition. I think you need a new word, and Kaffir seems appropriate.

Consider the rest ignorant and as such not exactly against GOD

That would be the real non-believers.

 

[Serinity]

Are you assuming that everyone that hears of Islam believes it and that those that don't become muslims knowingly reject it?

Pops is Christian, so is a non-believer in Islam. Pops isn't that way because he intends to go against God. He simply has a different understanding of who God is and what God wants. I, as an atheist, have a third understanding, and I am also not holding it for some malicious reason or to knowingly go against God.

As for not feeling compassion for non-muslims, and as for hating, does it actually say anywhere in the Quran that you are to hate? Not loving doesn't mean hating. And refraining from for example going to a party with somebody where there will be alcohol and dancing doesn't mean hating either.

If the Quran really did require you to hate non-muslims, I dont think Islam could have survived long nevermind spread so widely. After all, every convert was once a non-muslim.

Look, I am not to judge hearts, you may be sincere, I can't judge. But all I know is Allah SWT will deal justly and Allah SWT will not wrong anyone.

But I do know to have a positive outset on life.

There are 2 types:

One is ignorant
The other is arrogant.

All in all, Allah SWT is the judge. I have no ill feelings against you, you are probably a good human, but I don't like the state you are in, not out of hate, but because I like to see people on the straight path. I like to see people convert to Islam.

But I can't convert people to Islam, I know. So one has to at least tolerate people's choice. Tolerating doesn't mean accepting..

and you are right, if the Quran did say for Muslims to hate non-believers, I couldn't imagine a non muslim wanting to convert to Islam.

But from an Islamic perspective anyone who is not a Muslim is a non-believer. And Allah SWT knows best who goes to Hell, and who doesn't.

Realise that I am not saying a non muslim is not sincere, or that any christian like pops is not sincere or kind, there are.

and I am not trying to put out that we Muslims should hate everyone, or that the non muslims are all evil, they are not, I know. But they have disbelief in their heart, and anything that leads to Hellfire is evil, and misleading. Not to say that the person himself is evil.

 

[Serinity]

Guys I am at peace now, I confused the verses of war with verses of peace / neutrality.

I confused hatred for the bad deeds of kuffar with hatred for kuffar themselves.. I confused rulings of war with rulings when it is peace. I confused ettiquettes during war with ettiquettes during peaceful times / or times when not under attack.

So killing a person in war is a good and righteous deed (when you are really forced to I think?) but killing now would be a disgusting deed.

I was always conflicted cuz one ayat said to be harsh and kill, the other the opposite. I now understand it has to do with times.

I will keep asking but for now I will take a break and focus more on school, as Allah SWT doesn't want me to fail, and college is an important part of learning.

 

[popsthebuilder]

A non-believer does not know the will of God, by definition. I think you need a new word, and Kaffir seems appropriate.



That would be the real non-believers.

I beg to differ as the ignorant are safe or judged by their deeds alone where as those knowing believers and hypocrites have the knowledge and turn from it often turning others away from truth as well.

It is my personal findings that many atheist or deists insist they are the hypocrite or damned, that just isn't the case for most though.

I would also like to add that you stated that I am a non believer of Islam because I am Christian.
This isn't accurate.

Based on my reading, studies, and what initially brought me into Faith in the One Creator GOD, I make no distinction between Faith. I understand there to be different perceptions or views regarding GOD, but that the attributes, and man's direction by the will of GOD is without change between different faiths.

What I am trying to say is that the Qur'an, bible, and many other writings refer to the same singular creative GOD responsible for all existence. Though time and cultural differences may interpret or describe things somewhat differently, they refer to the same GOD, for the same reasons. This extends past even the Abrahamic faiths.


In my humble opinion

Peace