an issue with the wife

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thats terrible disobeying your husband like that and fleeing off to another country and she don't even feel any little bit of shame? brother i would immediately speak with a scholar about this situation and the decision is in your hands then what to do with her well i know what i would do if i was the husband. imagine if she did this if you had any kids it would cause so much upset and pain
 
Respecting Yusuf's wishes I am not offering any advice ... but may I ask a question?

Under those circumstances, if the wife has moved to another country, but the marriage remains valid, does the husband continue to be financially responsible for the wife who has left?
 
she is still his wife and he must fulfil her right and vice a versa

the ties oof kinship must be maintained maybe she may see his gestures and realise what she's done is wrong
 
Respecting Yusuf's wishes I am not offering any advice ... but may I ask a question?

Under those circumstances, if the wife has moved to another country, but the marriage remains valid, does the husband continue to be financially responsible for the wife who has left?

my guess would be yes, but as i can't afford 2 rents in 2 different countries, i plan on seeing her brother this weekend to inform him that unless his sister makes a surprise appearance or AT THE LEAST, calls and tries to resolve this issue by the end of the month, then he can resume his duty as her wali.

I look forward to your book btw...

dvd, In Sha'a Allah

Secondly in regards to your wife then this is clear disobedience and she talks about being able to her adhan and the Islamic atmosphere yet she is causing the anger of Allah and disobeying her husband? On top of that you are ill as well. There is no justification for her to disobey you and remain there like that refusing to come back. Unfortunatley right now she is living in great sin.

What i would suggest to you brother is that you talk to a reliable and experienced scholar about your situation immediatley for he will give you the best possible advice and what your next steps should be.

we're a little short on English speaking scholars, but one of my buddies is an Imam and he said that if i was to ask him, that he would issue a fatwah that i need to divorce. however, in normal circumstances, getting relatives from the 2 parties together would be the next step. i don't have any Muslim relatives and i will try to have as friendly a chat as i can with her brother. there ARE some Somali scholars, but they are from the same tribe as her and i would rather that they think that i just divorced her rather than have to clue them in on what is going on. they would be really upset with her, and i am upset enough for everybody!

I just read your medical symptomatology in red. above (I am sorry I missed it earlier). and it doesn't matter whether you have insurance or not you need to see a doc and be put on a few meds immediately.. can you tell me if you are on meds now? pls feel free to PM if you don't want to discuss this publicly ..

my current medication is Salat, Thikr and Dawah. don't forget, when i had my first heart attack, i wasn't until the 4th day that someone else took me to the hospital. by then, one of my aortas was 99.9% blocked. they told me i would die if i didn't let them operate and told them that was OK by me. :D then they explained the old blood clot goes to the brain and stroke scenario! :embarrass so i then asked them what the hell they were waiting for! ;D
that is actually one of the reasons that i wish my wife was here. she would recognize any serious change in facial color that might indicate "it's REALLY" time to go to the hospital.

wanted to see how you are br. Yusuf, without actually prying into your business.. I hope you have at least seen a doctor before going off on pursuits to win your Mrs.

soon, Allah knows how stubborn i am. well, actually most people know!

You may want to consider joining her in yemen im sure its much better than usa

i talked to one of the Imams from Yemen. he laughed real hard! mentioned something about my "big beard" and said maybe they will let you in in a few years. :heated: looking like a Muslim is actually a detriment in this case...

thats terrible disobeying your husband like that and fleeing off to another country and she don't even feel any little bit of shame? brother i would immediately speak with a scholar about this situation and the decision is in your hands then what to do with her well i know what i would do if i was the husband. imagine if she did this if you had any kids it would cause so much upset and pain

she didn't "flee off," she sought permission to go visit her dying mom. i said she go go for 3 weeks, 6 max. she had her brother buy her a ticker for over 2 months. she said it was the cheapest way. and quite honestly, she expected her mom to live. if she was taking care of her mom, i would feel differently about this.

when she first got there, her mom was already dead and buried, may Allah forgive her all of her sins and grant her a high abode in Jannah. i talked to her than and she was destroyed. the net week, she said she wanted a bit of a vacation. she said she had gone to visit some shaykh who does "cures." BUT she said, he can only cure aids and liver disease. rather than question this, i just kind of let it slide. the Next week she said she is being treated by him! when i told her it was time to come home, she said that she couldn't because she shouldn't be able to take her "medicine" on the plane. no one i know, knows of some miracle curing shaykh in Yemen. anyway, she hung up on me shortly after this. the connection wasn't too good amd my words are few and far between as: a) it's hard to breathe and b) i'm trying NOT to say anything harsh.

today, i called and was hung up on immediately. maybe it was a bad connection, i don't know. what i do know, however, is that she wouldn't go 2 weeks without speaking with someone who she considered "family."

so form whatever reason she doesn't feel the need to call, THAT is a major factor in letting her go. if she doesn't need me, then i don't need to feel responsible for her. she is entitled to a good life in Yemen if that is her priority. for WHATEVER reason.

May Allah guide us all to the straight path!

:wa:
 
my guess would be yes, but as i can't afford 2 rents in 2 different countries, i plan on seeing her brother this weekend to inform him that unless his sister makes a surprise appearance or AT THE LEAST, calls and tries to resolve this issue by the end of the month, then he can resume his duty as her wali.



dvd, In Sha'a Allah



we're a little short on English speaking scholars, but one of my buddies is an Imam and he said that if i was to ask him, that he would issue a fatwah that i need to divorce. however, in normal circumstances, getting relatives from the 2 parties together would be the next step. i don't have any Muslim relatives and i will try to have as friendly a chat as i can with her brother. there ARE some Somali scholars, but they are from the same tribe as her and i would rather that they think that i just divorced her rather than have to clue them in on what is going on. they would be really upset with her, and i am upset enough for everybody!



my current medication is Salat, Thikr and Dawah. don't forget, when i had my first heart attack, i wasn't until the 4th day that someone else took me to the hospital. by then, one of my aortas was 99.9% blocked. they told me i would die if i didn't let them operate and told them that was OK by me. :D then they explained the old blood clot goes to the brain and stroke scenario! :embarrass so i then asked them what the hell they were waiting for! ;D
that is actually one of the reasons that i wish my wife was here. she would recognize any serious change in facial color that might indicate "it's REALLY" time to go to the hospital.



soon, Allah knows how stubborn i am. well, actually most people know!



i talked to one of the Imams from Yemen. he laughed real hard! mentioned something about my "big beard" and said maybe they will let you in in a few years. :heated: looking like a Muslim is actually a detriment in this case...



she didn't "flee off," she sought permission to go visit her dying mom. i said she go go for 3 weeks, 6 max. she had her brother buy her a ticker for over 2 months. she said it was the cheapest way. and quite honestly, she expected her mom to live. if she was taking care of her mom, i would feel differently about this.

when she first got there, her mom was already dead and buried, may Allah forgive her all of her sins and grant her a high abode in Jannah. i talked to her than and she was destroyed. the net week, she said she wanted a bit of a vacation. she said she had gone to visit some shaykh who does "cures." BUT she said, he can only cure aids and liver disease. rather than question this, i just kind of let it slide. the Next week she said she is being treated by him! when i told her it was time to come home, she said that she couldn't because she shouldn't be able to take her "medicine" on the plane. no one i know, knows of some miracle curing shaykh in Yemen. anyway, she hung up on me shortly after this. the connection wasn't too good amd my words are few and far between as: a) it's hard to breathe and b) i'm trying NOT to say anything harsh.

today, i called and was hung up on immediately. maybe it was a bad connection, i don't know. what i do know, however, is that she wouldn't go 2 weeks without speaking with someone who she considered "family."

so form whatever reason she doesn't feel the need to call, THAT is a major factor in letting her go. if she doesn't need me, then i don't need to feel responsible for her. she is entitled to a good life in Yemen if that is her priority. for WHATEVER reason.

May Allah guide us all to the straight path!

:wa:

but why are you being soft with her? is she married to her family or is she married to u? and what dose she expect you to do. this is very strange indeed i believe she might be under the influence of black magic and all that story about that shaykh is a bit dogy if you dont mind be saying. i never heard of a shaykh curing diseases before. :hmm: only Allah the Almighty cures diseases. tell her to come home immediately brother for her own safety. may Allah make it easy on u Ameen
 
but why are you being soft with her? is she married to her family or is she married to u? and what dose she expect you to do. this is very strange indeed i believe she might be under the influence of black magic and all that story about that shaykh is a bit dogy if you dont mind be saying. i never heard of a shaykh curing diseases before. :hmm: only Allah the Almighty cures diseases. tell her to come home immediately brother for her own safety. may Allah make it easy on u Ameen

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the whole "shaykh" thing has me worried as well. very much so. if her mom was there, i would be less worried. but, yeah, this has sufi written all over it if you ask me. [or something worse. but IF she thinks she is on the Haq, i need BIG help to convince her. she is a bit stubborn that way]

i'm not being "soft," life is a test. i didn't complain about the timing of the ticket because i knew how distraught she was and i was just hoping that she would get there before her mom passed. now, there is a cost involved to change the ticket, how much i don't know. she had her brother buy it.

rather than look into the cost, she is just using that date as a day when she will have to make a decision on whether or not she is going to come back. she wants to put that decision off as long as possible because she really wants to stay.

the BIG problem is that she isn't asking for a divorce! she has said to take my time, find another wife in the mean time if i need one. just don't make her leave.

IF she would talk about it, i would suggest [as crazy as it sounds] for her to come back, find me another wife and THEN she can return and await my eventual move to Yemen. WITH the other wife, of course. but then i think about that and go WTF?????

she MUST either contact me and resolve this by the end of the month or i'm done. i don't know else i could really do.

BUT, the fact that she hasn't even bothered to call me DOES SPEAK VOLUMES! it may even be the deciding factor for me. IF your brothers are more important AND you consider yourself to be closer to them than me, then THAT IS the answer. i just return you to them.

see what i'm saying?

:wa:
 
do not be harsh with her as she may be experiencing emotional imbalance currently she may need emotional upliftment. Remember she's a woman and they go through alot of things i personally you should be there supporting her . . .
 
do not be harsh with her as she may be experiencing emotional imbalance currently she may need emotional upliftment. Remember she's a woman and they go through alot of things i personally you should be there supporting her . . .

I agree, she is probably distraught and needs time to heal emotionally. Making her return to the anti Islamic USA may make things worse. Even though the wife must obey the husband, in this case you should have some empathy for her, as the Qur'an states that you should not live amongst the enemies of Islam. USA laws prohibit Islamic practices and traditions (i.e polygamy, young brides and they hassle people about Muslim clothing etc). US is at war with Islam killing brothers and sisters on a daily basis. Remember too that your taxes are funding the Zionist war machine and the Antichrist global socialists. I just don't know how any Muslim would want to move to such a country^o)

If you go to Yemen you would be closer to Makkah and other Holy cities.
Furthermore the dry heat may be good for your health. :)
 
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Under those circumstances, if the wife has moved to another country, but the marriage remains valid, does the husband continue to be financially responsible for the wife who has left?
Hi Glo,

That is a good question and one I will find a ruling for. I did read somewhere in the past that if a without a valid reason a woman refuses her husband in intimate relations then he can withhold her rights of maintenance. Apparently this is because he is maintaining her as his wife. If she doesn't fulfill her rights than she isn't entitled to hers. I must get this confirmed God willing. If it is correct then in Bro Yusuf's case he isn't responsible for his wife's maintenance anymore.




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:sl: the BIG problem is that she isn't asking for a divorce! she has said to take my time, find another wife in the mean time if i need one. just don't make her leave.

:sl:

The shaykh thing is worrying but that is separate from how your wife is dealing with this situation.

I don't think your wife set out to hurt you, although she has. She wants you to get married because she feels guilty about leaving you to care for yourself. She cannot bring herself to tell you how she really feels or wants as she genuinely is trying not to hurt you more than she already has. It would ease her conscience if you got married and if it is divorce she wants, she'd feel better asking for it if she knew you had someone there. She is fooling herself by thinking that this way she is hurting you less. May Allah have mercy on her. Ameen.


she MUST either contact me and resolve this by the end of the month or i'm done. i don't know else i could really do.
Give her a period in which to decide what she wants. Make this the first thing you say when you get a chance to speak to her again.

BUT, the fact that she hasn't even bothered to call me DOES SPEAK VOLUMES! it may even be the deciding factor for me. IF your brothers are more important AND you consider yourself to be closer to them than me, then THAT IS the answer. i just return you to them.

see what i'm saying?

It does seem like it. You should have called her back after you got disconnected or was deliberately disconnected. You should have kept calling a few times and seen what happened.


Lastly, bro, you must look after your health. never assume that if so and so was there, things would be better. Nothing can harm you except with the will of Allah. If you're meant to go from a heart attack or stroke, then your wife being there won't be able to prevent it. Allah is sufficient. InshaAllah next time you speak with your wife, be firm and give her an ultimatum. No one has the right to put anyone through this, let alone a wife her husband.

:wa:



do not be harsh with her as she may be experiencing emotional imbalance currently she may need emotional upliftment. Remember she's a woman and they go through alot of things i personally you should be there supporting her . . .

:sl Does hormone imbalance denote that a woman is justified in staying away from her sick husband without his permission for emotional uplift on the other side of the world? If that were the case then Islam would've made allowances for it. People wouldn't even leave a sick pet alone and go off for a day. We are talking about a very sick human being here, and a woman who is deliberately staying away. Agreed, she may have reasons. But then she should also take it upon her to put the poor man out of his misery.
 
my current medication is Salat, Thikr and Dawah. don't forget, when i had my first heart attack, i wasn't until the 4th day that someone else took me to the hospital. by then, one of my aortas was 99.9% blocked. they told me i would die if i didn't let them operate and told them that was OK by me. :D then they explained the old blood clot goes to the brain and stroke scenario! :embarrass so i then asked them what the hell they were waiting for! ;D
that is actually one of the reasons that i wish my wife was here. she would recognize any serious change in facial color that might indicate "it's REALLY" time to go to the hospital.

:sl:
akhi,

I am not sure I understand? so they have operated on your blockage and discharged you from the hospital with no medications post op.?
You realize that Allah swt will ask you of your health? I am sure that you were discharged on some meds, pls try to at least get a refill on those if you can't go for a full follow up physical.

please promise me you'll do this!


soon, Allah knows how stubborn i am. well, actually most people know!

That is not good enough..

and I look fwd. to your DVD's

:w:
 
I agree, she is probably distraught and needs time to heal emotionally. Making her return to the anti Islamic USA may make things worse. Even though the wife must obey the husband, in this case you should have some empathy for her, as the Qur'an states that you should not live amongst the enemies of Islam. USA laws prohibit Islamic practices and traditions (i.e polygamy, young brides and they hassle people about Muslim clothing etc). US is at war with Islam killing brothers and sisters on a daily basis. Remember too that your taxes are funding the Zionist war machine and the Antichrist global socialists. I just don't know how any Muslim would want to move to such a country^o)

i didn't move here, my wife and her family did. i ws born here.

If you go to Yemen you would be closer to Makkah and other Holy cities.
Furthermore the dry heat may be good for your health. :)

i don't disagree with any of that. i'd like to move there. due to some jahillybilly stuff, my wife won't ask her brother to give me a job. i'm not a businessman by any stretch of the imagination, but if she really wanted me there quicker, together they could do it. however, i'm told that in Somali culture [at least hers] that the "one who marries your sister deserves a place of honor." THEREFORE you cannot hire him as a worker as he might suck and you'd have to fire him and you CAN'T do THAT to your brother in law! :heated:

I don't think your wife set out to hurt you, although she has. She wants you to get married because she feels guilty about leaving you to care for yourself. She cannot bring herself to tell you how she really feels or wants as she genuinely is trying not to hurt you more than she already has. It would ease her conscience if you got married and if it is divorce she wants, she'd feel better asking for it if she knew you had someone there. She is fooling herself by thinking that this way she is hurting you less. May Allah have mercy on her. Ameen.

if she wanted a divorce, i think she would ask for one. i rather think that she is trying to "force" me to move to Yemen. it's NOT a bad idea, i had hoped to wait until my mom passed away before i left here. i would like to attempt to convert here while i still have a chance. after all, she IS my mom.

It does seem like it. You should have called her back after you got disconnected or was deliberately disconnected. You should have kept calling a few times and seen what happened

i detest these bloody phone cards! i think that she left, she needs to call.

I am not sure I understand? so they have operated on your blockage and discharged you from the hospital with no medications post op.?

well, not exactly like that. i discharged myself out the next day so i could have a smoke! they called me on my cell. i told the woman that i didn't have a pen with me, crikey, i didn't even have a lighter. i asked to call back and leave a message that i could follow up. she never called back, 4 months later i became a Muslim. Allah gave me Islam instead of meds. that seems better to me!

if something is wrong, the Masjid is the place to go. if i am to "live" according to some doctors, well Allah will really have to make that pretty obvious to me. cuz i don't see it.

:wa:
 
well, not exactly like that. i discharged myself out the next day so i could have a smoke! they called me on my cell. i told the woman that i didn't have a pen with me, crikey, i didn't even have a lighter. i asked to call back and leave a message that i could follow up. she never called back, 4 months later i became a Muslim. Allah gave me Islam instead of meds. that seems better to me!

if something is wrong, the Masjid is the place to go. if i am to "live" according to some doctors, well Allah will really have to make that pretty obvious to me. cuz i don't see it.

:wa:

Oh my God, I am at a loss for words..

akhi, I have a few words for you.. I have lost my uncle wajeeh two days before Eid, he was the sweetheart of our family, he was a smoker and a religious man, never complained a day in his life, in fact he went off to make salat ad'duhr came back home to read the news paper, clutched his chest and was gone three mins later, three mins not even enough time for my aunt to call her son to fetch a doctor..

his passing devastated all of us and his young son although I love that he went fasting in the last ten of Ramadan after having made prayers, perhaps it is our only consolation may Allah swt have peace and blessings upon him and grant him paradise' high meed.. but that is something to think about

2: 195 And spend [freely] in God's cause, and let not your own hands throw you into destruction;

Allah swt granted you a good life and obviously he must love you for why else would he choose Islam for you, you'll do no good to anyone being ill and having God knows what level blockage in your arteries!

Allah swt didn't tell us to give up treatment.. in fact it is stated that for every ailment there is a cure..

something to ponder... let your wife come home to someone who is taking charge of his life and his health..

:w:
 
if she wanted a divorce, i think she would ask for one. i rather think that she is trying to "force" me to move to Yemen. it's NOT a bad idea, i had hoped to wait until my mom passed away before i left here. i would like to attempt to convert here while i still have a chance. after all, she IS my mom.



i detest these bloody phone cards! i think that she left, she needs to call.



well, not exactly like that. i discharged myself out the next day so i could have a smoke! they called me on my cell. i told the woman that i didn't have a pen with me, crikey, i didn't even have a lighter. i asked to call back and leave a message that i could follow up. she never called back, 4 months later i became a Muslim. Allah gave me Islam instead of meds. that seems better to me!

if something is wrong, the Masjid is the place to go. if i am to "live" according to some doctors, well Allah will really have to make that pretty obvious to me. cuz i don't see it.

:wa:
:sl:

May sisters have given you advice regarding your issue and i hope you sort it out. I am knowledgable enough to advice such matters sry :( . I would pray for you to recover soon and your family is back together.Never let anger get better of you. Anger is how shaytan works .

Please also never neglect your treatment. Never just believe going to masjid is enuf ( although Allah has ability to cure anything).

"Why don't you tie down your camel?" The Bedouin answered, "I put my trust in Allah." The Prophet then said, "Tie your camel first, then put your trust in Allah" (At-Tirmidhi).



Imagine what your bad health could cause to your wife , mother and your family. Your hopes of seeing your mom as muslimah could vanish away if you ignore your health and are seriously hospitalized. Please go get a check up again :|
 
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May sisters have given you advice regarding your issue and i hope you sort it out. I am knowledgable enough to advice such matters sry :( . I would pray for you to recover soon and your family is back together.Never let anger get better of you. Anger is how shaytan works .

Please also never neglect your treatment. Never just believe going to masjid is enuf ( although Allah has ability to cure anything).

"Why don't you tie down your camel?" The Bedouin answered, "I put my trust in Allah." The Prophet then said, "Tie your camel first, then put your trust in Allah" (At-Tirmidhi).



Imagine what your bad health could cause to your wife , mother and your family. Your hopes of seeing your mom as muslimah could vanish away if you ignore your health and are seriously hospitalized. Please go get a check up again :|

:sl:

all good and bad are from Allah. Allah is the one that cures.

Volume 7, Book 70, Number 555:

Narrated 'Ata bin Abi Rabah:

Ibn 'Abbas said to me, "Shall I show you a woman of the people of Paradise?" I said, "Yes." He said, "This black lady came to the Prophet and said, 'I get attacks of epilepsy and my body becomes uncovered; please invoke Allah for me.' The Prophet said (to her), 'If you wish, be patient and you will have (enter) Paradise; and if you wish, I will invoke Allah to cure you.' She said, 'I will remain patient,' and added, 'but I become uncovered, so please invoke Allah for me that I may not become uncovered.' So he invoked Allah for her."

Volume 7, Book 71, Number 638:

Narrated 'Abdul 'Aziz:

Thabit and I went to Anas bin Malik. Thabit said, "O Abu Hamza! I am sick." On that Anas said, "Shall I treat you with the Ruqya of Allah's Apostle?" Thabit said, "Yes," Anas recited, "O Allah! The Lord of the people, the Remover of trouble! (Please) cure (Heal) (this patient), for You are the Healer. None brings about healing but You; a healing that will leave behind no ailment."

Volume 7, Book 71, Number 640:

Narrated 'Aisha:

Allah's Apostle used to treat with a Ruqya saying, "O the Lord of the people! Remove the trouble The cure is in Your Hands, and there is none except You who can remove it (the disease) . "

Volume 7, Book 70, Number 579:

Narrated 'Aisha:

Whenever Allah's Apostle paid a visit to a patient, or a patient was brought to him, he used to invoke Allah, saying, "Take away the disease, O the Lord of the people! Cure him as You are the One Who cures. There is no cure but Yours, a cure that leaves no disease."

Volume 7, Book 70, Number 563:

Narrated Sad:

I became seriously ill at Mecca and the Prophet came to visit me. I said, "O Allah's Apostle! I shall leave behind me a good fortune, but my heir is my only daughter; shall I bequeath two third of my property to be spent in charity and leave one third (for my heir)?" He said, "No." I said, "Shall I bequeath half and leave half?" He said, "No." I said, "Shall I bequeath one third and leave two thirds?" He said, "One third is alright, though even one third is too much." Then he placed his hand on his forehead and passed it over my face and abdomen and said, "O Allah! Cure Sad and complete his emigration." I feel as if I have been feeling the coldness of his hand on my liver ever since.

Volume 3, Book 36, Number 476:

Narrated Abu Said:

Some of the companions of the Prophet went on a journey till they reached some of the 'Arab tribes (at night). They asked the latter to treat them as their guests but they refused. The chief of that tribe was then bitten by a snake (or stung by a scorpion) and they tried their best to cure him but in vain. Some of them said (to the others), "Nothing has benefited him, will you go to the people who resided here at night, it may be that some of them might possess something (as treatment)," They went to the group of the companions (of the Prophet ) and said, "Our chief has been bitten by a snake (or stung by a scorpion) and we have tried everything but he has not benefitted. Have you got anything (useful)?" One of them replied, "Yes, by Allah! I can recite a Ruqya, but as you have refused to accept us as your guests, I will not recite the Ruqya for you unless you fix for us some wages for it." They agrees to pay them a flock of sheep. One of them then went and recited (Suratul-Fatiha): 'All the praises are for the Lord of the Worlds' and puffed over the chief who became all right as if he was released from a chain, and got up and started walking, showing no signs of sickness.

They paid them what they agreed to pay. Some of them (i.e. the companions) then suggested to divide their earnings among themselves, but the one who performed the recitation said, "Do not divide them till we go to the Prophet and narrate the whole story to him, and wait for his order." So, they went to Allah's Apostle and narrated the story. Allah's Apostle asked, "How did you come to know that Surat-ul-Fatiha was recited as Ruqya?" Then he added, "You have done the right thing. Divide (what you have earned) and assign a share for me as well." The Prophet smiled thereupon.

and at times, there is no cure:

Volume 4, Book 56, Number 813:

Narrated Ibn 'Abbas:

The Prophet paid a visit to a sick bedouin. The Prophet when visiting a patient used to say, "No harm will befall you! May Allah cure you! May Allah cure you!" So the Prophet said to the bedouin. "No harm will befall you. May Allah cure you!" The bedouin said, "You say, may Allah cure me? No, for it is a fever which boils in (the body of) an old man, and will lead him to the grave." The Prophet said, "Yes, then may it be as you say."

whatever Allah wills. as a Muslim death is a reward and one should love it as a Kaffir loves life.

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once at a medicine program we were told that not taking action to save someones life is effectivley the same as murdering that person.

brother if your not taking measures to look after yourself its effectively suicide.
 
Some of the companions of the Prophet went on a journey till they reached some of the 'Arab tribes (at night). They asked the latter to treat them as their guests but they refused. The chief of that tribe was then bitten by a snake (or stung by a scorpion) and they tried their best to cure him but in vain. Some of them said (to the others), "Nothing has benefited him, will you go to the people who resided here at night, it may be that some of them might possess something (as treatment)," They went to the group of the companions (of the Prophet ) and said, "Our chief has been bitten by a snake (or stung by a scorpion) and we have tried everything but he has not benefitted. Have you got anything (useful)?" One of them replied, "Yes, by Allah! I can recite a Ruqya, but as you have refused to accept us as your guests, I will not recite the Ruqya for you unless you fix for us some wages for it." They agrees to pay them a flock of sheep. One of them then went and recited (Suratul-Fatiha): 'All the praises are for the Lord of the Worlds' and puffed over the chief who became all right as if he was released from a chain, and got up and started walking, showing no signs of sickness.

In this case those travellers tried as much as they can. I am not saying we should not pray bro. Of course everything we have and we will have is due to Allah and he alone can cure us. But we should atleast have a try ? .. Heart problems are cured comparitively easily these days. :).

Hope you return to best of your healths.
 
Salaam alaikom brother,

I dont know you really but red your story and really couldnt let this thread pass me by.
First of all brother may Allah swt help you get healthy again inshallah ameen. Ill make some dua for you inshallah. And brother, please stop smoking..!:) Its not good for you, every cigarette means some piece of lung is gonna get black.
And do think you have to get your wife back to you. You need to speak too your wife face-to-face. Thats the best form of communication, especially in situations like this.
The black magic stuff doesnt sound strange by the way. Could be a cause for her behaviour. And I think you should mind your health! Get someone to go with you to make sure theirs gonna be help when you need it. You know keep an eye on you a little bit.

Maybe you should move to Holland, not better then USA but everyone is obligated to get insurrance her, and its affordable her as well. :D

Salaam alaikom and may Allah swt bless you inshallah
 
Salaam alaikom brother,

I dont know you really but red your story and really couldnt let this thread pass me by.
First of all brother may Allah swt help you get healthy again inshallah ameen. Ill make some dua for you inshallah. And brother, please stop smoking..!:) Its not good for you, every cigarette means some piece of lung is gonna get black.

:mmokay: i quit smoking a few years back, alhumdulillah

And do think you have to get your wife back to you. You need to speak too your wife face-to-face. Thats the best form of communication, especially in situations like this.

well, if she we here, we wouldn't have this problem now, would we? :hiding:

The black magic stuff doesnt sound strange by the way. Could be a cause for her behaviour.

Allah knows best!

And I think you should mind your health!

i actually do try!

Get someone to go with you to make sure theirs gonna be help when you need it. You know keep an eye on you a little bit.

well, that's what a wife should be doing, eh?

Maybe you should move to Holland, not better then USA but everyone is obligated to get insurrance her, and its affordable her as well. :D

we may have mandatory insurance as well. real soon!

Salaam alaikom and may Allah swt bless you inshallah

:sl:

for me, cost IS an issue. our dispatcher has had similar symptoms to mine. he has has a triple by-pass and just recently a piece of animal heart was used to replace a part of his. IF i had to do something like that, i would NEVER EVER be able to pay off! EVER! in fact, i doubt i would try. i never paid a dime on my last little operation and i didn't care UNTIL i became a Muslim. i figure once some company "buys" your debt, they have in fact, settled it.

now, if i can hold off and stick some poor unsuspecting insurance company holding the bill. i would enjoy that!

once at a medicine program we were told that not taking action to save someones life is effectivley the same as murdering that person.

brother if your not taking measures to look after yourself its effectively suicide.

don't take your Din from doctors! in a first aid situation, i would go. but it has to be pretty obvious to me.

:wa:
 
:sl: May Allah grant you the best of health akhi. You needn't take drugs to preserve your health. The Quran is a means to healing too. More than anything I believe in healing from the Sunnah to be more effective inshaAllah. Use black seed oil and honey, olive oil and fast on Mondays and Thurdays if your health permits. InshaAllah you can expect an improvement in health if not full recovery. It depends what Allah has willed for you.


Also recite/listen to Surah Al-An'am and perform ruqyah of Surah al-Fatiha for yourself inshaAllah.


The Prophet said, ‘In the Fatiha of the Qur’an, there is a cure for all maladies(illnesses)’
[Darimi 3236, also narrated by Ad-Darmi in his Al-Masnad and Al-Bayhaqi in Shu’bul Imaan, Tafseer Mazhari 1:30]


Surah al An’am (6)

Jabir (radiAllahu anhu) reported that The Prophet (salAllahu alayhi wasalam) said, ‘So many Angels accompanied its revelation that the horizon was covered with them’
[Hakim, Dhahabi & Baihaqi]

The Prophet (salAllahu alayhi wasalam) said, ‘The Qur’an was revealed in one fifth part, whoever memorised it in one fifth parts would not forget it. Except for Surah al An’am, which was revelaed in it’s entirity, seen off by seventy angels from each heaven until they delivered it to the Prophet. Never has it been recited over a sick person, without Allah granting him a cure’
[Baihaqi & Khatib]

Umar ibn al-Khattab (radiAllahu anhu) reported that The Prophet (salAllahu alayhi wasalam) said, “Surah An’aam is from the core of the Qur’an”
[Tafsir of al-Qurtubi]


Disease and suffering is a means of expiation of sins. If it is Allah's will to not cure someone then inshaAllah be patient and know that it is a means of purification for you in the way Allah that chose.

:wa:
 

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