Anti-Feminist

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Why need feminism when we have Islam? Alhamdulillah. I dont really care for other movements. Islam is enough for me...it's got all I need. Yes when feminism started it was okay now it ain't so I dont like it lol.

Btw bro Alpha dude, that article was posted earlier on in the thread :p
 
I know a lot of feminists, but I don't really care. I know what I want my wife to be like, and I hope she is, but I don't really care if some women want more rights or not, if they want them, fight for them is all I can say.
 
I don't like extreme Feminism. I met women who hated me just because I held the door open or when I let them take my seat on the bus when they had no where else to sit. They had a go at me and saying I'm sexist.>_>

Honestly I don't even know why I even try to be kind.
 
^^ how can anyone hate you for that? phsawwwww
pl go ask any woman what she wants, she'll never say I want to be treated equal to you, if she is honest she'll say 'I want to be treated better'

open the door and give up seats, women folk all over will appreciate it :D

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this is one of those few threads which clearly illustrates the affect of brainwashing on certain individuals whom ofcourse will NOT be named :)
 
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someone once posted something about this:
http://www.islamicboard.com/1161231-post1.html

what i dont understand about feminists is why they hate men so much and yet decide to compete with them...i mean if you hated something so much, why would you want to stoop to that thing/persons level :><: it's better when people act themselves and don't compete with one another<---its such a a brilliant display of individuality...competing with people is such a headache and people never really are free when they make others a standard for them :hmm:
 
God gives men power over women, when they are not good people, yes they mistreat there wife, when they are really good people they spoil there wife(and whatever wrong they do, is their misfortune on the day of judgement). Men have to work there whole life, theres nothing special about that. Men are supposed to treat there wife good, or else God gets mad at them. Men get 4 wifes(seems good, but no thats a bigger responsibility). All men are supposed to go to war if one comes up, if you don't then I believe you are a deserter, Women on the other hand don't have to. Ok if its unislamic for women to work, then it is also unislamic for men to not work. Isn't it a bit unrealistic to think that one sexes boundaries should fall away whenever they please and the other should have theirs permanent. Are boundaries something only men should follow or should women have some too? think about it immagine women had to work, when she got pregnant would it even be possible? and her husband was staying home, taking care of the house... does that even make since? I guess God has created permanent roles for things, not one day a rabbit can decide to be an elephant and the roles were created hard for every sex, women get beaten by their men and men get there ass beaten by the world(men have to answer for beating their wifes, the world does not have to answer for beating the crap out of you). However in the case of men, there is no one to blame for our misfortune, and it would not be right to blame women for staying home all the time and not getting their ass whooped by the world in our place. Thats life, its alot of hard work and I don't like this but hey its the truth.
 
Fighting4Iman said:
this is one of those few threads which clearly illustrates the affect of brainwashing on certain individuals whom ofcourse will NOT be named :)
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That would of course mean me, because I am a "symphatiser" as earlier in the thread was said and F4I is obviously a gentleman to not name any names. :)

It just sad to me, that people refuse to see the less radical feminism. I see no article on chauvinism and Islam. Well, yes I see but it's such an 'disturbing' article people would deny everything.

The article quoted is very personal, I like such stuff, but with the personal a lot of 'facts' are mixed.

Men and women are not the same. Each has particular features and characteristics. Women are not equal to men. But neither are men equal to women. Islam envisages their roles in society not as competing but as complimentary. Each has certain duties and functions in accordance with his or her nature and constitution.
Man possesses certain privileges such as social authority and mobility against which he has to performmany heavy duties. First of all, he bears all economic responsibility. It is his duty to support his family completely even if his wife is rich and despite the fact that she is economically independent. A woman in a traditional Islamic society does not have to worry about earning a living.
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Sure, this all sounds good in its way that there is actually a "balance" to find, but this is all both-sided, it must not be forced on you. I have seen great marriages by Muslims, whom I have asked what they think of feminism and the men said they felt bad for those who actually are not treated right, thus fighting and then being shunned. The men yes, a pity they were married, I wonder where I'll find that kind of guy now. Then I asked them about chauvinism and they found that kind of attitud pathetic. Elhamdulillah, their wifes are quite content in their marriages. This is what I think is ideal.

People who deny there actually is a macho attitude or chauvinistic attitude in lots of cultures in Islamic majority countries are just blind and I guess there is no way to discuss what you see with a blind. And fact is, there is that in Christian countries aswell AND secular. Yes, the women fought for their rights but it all turned out again wrong, they are seen as sexual objects, for example.

Among animals, homosexuality is unknown.
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No it's not. :hmm:
 
^ Al-Zaara, I have run out of reps, but I just want to say how much I appreciate and admire your well-balanced and respectful views. You clearly think about things very carefully.

God bless you. :)
 
glo said:
^ Al-Zaara, I have run out of reps, but I just want to say how much I appreciate and admire your well-balanced and respectful views. You clearly think about things very carefully.

God bless you. :)
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disagreed

she actually thinks animals can be homosexual :?
 
Salam,
I believe feminism is a problem which shouldn't exist. Some feminism can be okej, like that men can't treat women however they want (but what men actually do that? many feminists make men sound like they were animals!) and that women should be allowed to drive car and everything. But when it comes to the parts "it's better for the women to work than stay home, how can you stay home with your kids? oh my you're soo oppressed right!" then it becomes totally wrong. As long as it doesn't go against Islam then okej, but the woman's best place is the home and men and women can't be equal in everything. If we were totally equal then we all would have the same hair cut and the same clothes, maybe men would have a veil and abaya too (that would look fun lol). But no, there are men stuff and there are women stuff and I believe that's the way it should be. Why change the way it should be? Feminism isn't good.
Besides, I know many people here who believe animals can be homosexuals, not me though...
 
Alpha Dude said:
What must not be forced? The "balance"? Balance is good.
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When both have understood it (the "balance") Meaning, it is explained and the wife or husband has accepted, if either disagrees, I'd think divorce is the best answer because through force (from either side) only pain comes.

I believe I understand you, but somehow I still feel you fail to understand me. Well, you do not have to either. Overstepping the boundaries, is exactly what I am thinking of, I state that I hate it when men do that and you when women. I think we're simply stating the other side of the coin and thus, actually just agree, maybe.

InshaAllah you will find such a wife for yourself!

Fighting4Iman said:
she actually thinks animals can be homosexual :?
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There have been threads about it, no? And scientifically prooved?
Although, it has nothing to do with the subject. I feel it is odd to take in animals in an article when discussing about humans, how much one even likes to state about "natural" things.


Now, I must go so do not expect a fast reply.

InshaAllah anything bad and offensive is not to be found in my replies. Ma'salam!
 
It's good when they fight for the stuff that makes "sense." It officially sucks garbage when they go overboard. I feel for them, as long as they don't get shovey and push Islam into their list of "hates." That I cannot ever tolerate.

When women were fighting for their rights in the West...they really did start off well...but as usual they went overboard. They started acting and dressing like men, even early on into the stages of the women's rights movement...so it ain't all that dandy. They obviously didn't see the fine line between what a man is and what a woman is...and their roles a such.

So I DON'T have as much as sympathy for them as say....some other people :hmm: But I do feel sorry for them that they even HAD to fight for themselves.
 
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I think people need to distinguish between the act of a woman seeking/fighting for the rights given to them by Allaah, and the idealogy of feminism. Anyone who has studied Sociology would understand this. And no, it's not just radical feminists who hold ideas and beliefs that are contrary to Islaam. All the sub-groups of feminism go against the teachings of Islaam to some degree. The whole concept of men and women having equal rights is incorrect, Islaamically, as we have different rights - but there is still justice.

Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

“Here we should note that there are some people who speak of equality instead of justice, and this is a mistake. We should not say equality, because equality implies no differentiation between the two. Because of this unjust call for equality, they started to ask, what is the difference between male and female?’ So they made males and females the same, and then the communists said, ‘What difference is there between ruler and subject? No one has any authority over anyone else, not even fathers and sons; the father has no authority over his son,’ and so on.

But if we say justice, which means giving each one that to which he or she is entitled, this misunderstanding no longer applies, and the word used is correct. Hence it does not say in the Qur’aan that Allaah enjoins equality, rather it says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Verily, Allaah enjoins Al‑‘Adl (i.e. justice)”

[al-Nahl 16:90]

“and that when you judge between men, you judge with justice”

[al-Nisa’ 4:58]

Those who say that Islam is the religion of equality are lying against Islam. Rather Islam is the religion of justice which means treating equally those who are equal and differentiating between those who are different.

No one who knows the religion of Islam would say that it is the religion of equality. Rather what shows you that this principle is false is the fact that most of what is mentioned in the Qur’aan denies equality, as in the following verses:

‘Say: Are those who know equal to those who know not?”

[al-Zumar 39:9]

‘Say: Is the blind equal to the one who sees? Or darkness equal to light?’

[al-Ra’d 13:16]

‘Not equal among you are those who spent and fought before the conquering (of Makkah, with those among you who did so later’

[al-Hadeed 57:10]

‘Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allaah with their wealth and their live’

[al-Nisa’ 4:95]

Not one single letter in the Qur’aan enjoins equality, rather it enjoins justice. You will also find that the word justice is acceptable to people, for I feel that if I am better than this man in terms of knowledge, or wealth, or piety, or in doing good, I would not like for him to be equal to me.

Every man knows that he find it unacceptable if we say that the male is equal to the female.” ​

Sharh al-‘Aqeedah al-Waasitah, 1/180-181
 
For every hardcore feminist there is a hardcore chauvinist. Both are equally retarded. Islam teaches moderation in all aspects of life, and the rights and responsibilities of the genders are no exception to this rule. Simple as 1,2,3.
 
I dont know it does get rather annoying but there are some good points to femine rights... i mean i get to vote, drive, write or say my own opinion. its got its perks... however the only people who make me angry are the people (like one dear friend of mine, which whom we have to keep our talks on simple things) believe woman have EVERY right as a man but at the same time she does not want the responsibility of a man... i dont know... i believe in equality but you cant be a big feminist and then expect a man to treat you "like a lady"
 
chauvinism in its most leniant form is something I STRONGLY disapprove of.


but i guess its not the same vice versa for many sisters
 

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