Anti-Islam Anti-Muslim Protests in Birmingham

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Greetings and peace be with you convert;
That was the most foolish, fairytale thing I've read in a long time.
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Is it foolish to forgive?

In the spirit of praying to a just and merciful God

Eric
 
Sad, very very sad.
This is why the media are not to be trusted. I blame them for things like this.
 
Its foolish to forgive when someone comes to kill you and drive you out of your home.

You can forgive; I'd rather protect myself, my family, and my brothers and sisters.

Allah has ordained us to fight those who come to fight and oppress us and Allah speaks the truth. Before you all get all bent out of shape, I am not arguing for anyone to go out indiscriminately attacking anyone here, just don't let anyone do it to you.

"When they kick out your front door, how you gonna come? With your hands on your head or the trigger of your gun?"
 
Who do you guys blame for these demos that we're beginning to see? Just a few months ago we saw some of these demos in Luton. To me, these demos started to crop up and the anger has been intensified since the jeering of the British troops as they arrived home in the UK. That changed the mindset of many people.
Do you blame the media, the Islamic extremists or...?

If there was a protest against Islamic extremism where I live I'd be there in a flash to protest against EXTREMISM and to show a bit of nationalism but looking at this video it does seem to have turned anti-muslim.
 
Mostly media and some to do with muslims themselves not being straightforward with their deen. Obviously since wars are being raged against muslims, the media will be compliant to governments in order to deliver them a Goldstein for the people to have their 2-minutes hate.

The general populace, at least in my country, I've found will listen to and respect Islam if muslims would just stop playing games and trying to placate people. Such groups like Quillam, Radical Middle Way, etc in Britain are doing much more harm to muslims than good by denying aspects of the deen. Orientalists to some extent expose them and people have a distrust of muslims because of this.

Europe is a bit different than where I live though; historically, Europe more than any place else, seems to turn to racism and extreme nationalism in times of economic peril and it seems Europe is looking for a scapegoat.
 
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convert said:
I urge muslims everywhere to take up self-defense and, if your country allows it, purchase and learn to operate firearms. The community in South Africa had to form small militias a few years ago to protect themselves during riots. These mouth-breathing limesuckers clearly are looking to start pogroms of muslims.
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you have spoken my mind, down the road in the future me and some brothers are planning to set up such orginizations, we are planning to set up a Muslim defense brigade etc, which will train Muslims in self defense, and will be an organized group which will also stand up to defend the Muslim community from hate crimes.
 
there are millions of Muslims in the west, we could easily set up a well orginized Muslim group of up to 25 thousand to 30 thousand members who's only goal is to defend the Muslim community in the west from neo-nazis and islamophobic people, we could have them guarding mosques, certain homes, etc etc. no doubt this will happen in the future.
 
Blackpool said:
Who do you guys blame for these demos that we're beginning to see? Just a few months ago we saw some of these demos in Luton. To me, these demos started to crop up and the anger has been intensified since the jeering of the British troops as they arrived home in the UK. That changed the mindset of many people.
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I think the 'mindset' was always there. These people have been around as long as I can remember; they just need an excuse. It needn't be muslims, once it was Jews, then blacks and/or asians and more recently it has been Eastern Europeans.

Overall, I'm positive in that if you look at the facts racism and religious bigotism are really nowhere near as bad in the UK as they were 20 or 30 years ago, although I appreciate that may be be hard to see if you are caught up in the middle of it. The BNP of today is playing at it compared with the old National Front of the 1970's. The real difference is in the attitude of young and although there may be the odd step back generally the movement is forward.


The_Prince said:
... and will be an organized group which will also stand up to defend the Muslim community from hate crimes.
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There already is one. It's called the 'police'. They have their faults, true, but the sort of vigilante group you suggest will put put more muslims in more danger, rather than less. Surely you must see that?
 
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okay, brummies here

surprised if its in city centre, its very multi cutural, the centre is neutral terrority for every one
 
nightstar said:
okay, brummies here

surprised if its in city centre, its very multi cutural, the centre is neutral terrority for every one
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brother were you there? is it worth having people come over for the next one?
 
salaam

The people in the video sounded like they were in a football match.
 
The_Prince said:
you have spoken my mind, down the road in the future me and some brothers are planning to set up such orginizations, we are planning to set up a Muslim defense brigade etc, which will train Muslims in self defense, and will be an organized group which will also stand up to defend the Muslim community from hate crimes.
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I think that the bad image of asian and african immigrants make some youths who not only like to stab a knife in a Brit, Italian or Swede, but whats worst they are into gang-rapes, they aim especially blonde european young women, which is reported every month across Europe.
 
Amadeus85 said:
I think that the bad image of asian and african immigrants make some youths who not only like to stab a knife in a Brit, Italian or Swede, but whats worst they are into gang-rapes, they aim especially blonde european young women, which is reported every month across Europe.
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wow you sound like a Nazis and a racist - there are plenty of "white" kids stabbing "Brits" as there are "black" and "asian" Kids - talking about Gang rape is definitly not exclusive to specific races.
 
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Amadeus85 said:
I think that the bad image of asian and african immigrants make some youths who not only like to stab a knife in a Brit, Italian or Swede, but whats worst they are into gang-rapes, they aim especially blonde european young women, which is reported every month across Europe.
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u are full of exaggerating, it's beyond belief.

Amadeus we all know u are white. Wen u keep down'talking/singling'out other races like this, u do realise that it makes u look racist?
 
Amadeus85 said:
I think that the bad image of asian and african immigrants make some youths who not only like to stab a knife in a Brit, Italian or Swede, but whats worst they are into gang-rapes, they aim especially blonde european young women, which is reported every month across Europe.
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There are rotten apples in every country/race/religion etc.

Zafran said:
salaam

The people in the video sounded like they were in a football match.
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lol Indeed.
 
Amadeus85 said:
I think that the bad image of asian and african immigrants make some youths who not only like to stab a knife in a Brit, Italian or Swede, but whats worst they are into gang-rapes, they aim especially blonde european young women, which is reported every month across Europe.
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You are generalizing massively. There are evil people from all walks of life
 
Seeing it now im shocked at where it was staged, right before the bull ring entrance and in front of the phones 4 u,

I have no idea of what the demo was advertised at, but it looked like football chanting and a few racist comments thrown.


If all the muslims stopped in brum, i think the centre would come to a stop. buses, shops, etc

Without looking i bet the counter march was full of british whites defending us.
 
Layla454 said:
You are generalizing massively. There are evil people from all walks of life
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I said some asian youths (in UK its mostly Pakistani). In Italy there were really examples of rapes done by Morrocans and Tunisians but also by Romanians and Gypsies. To defend the italian women, the citizens of italian cities created civil militias. This is reality, I didnt take it from comic book, but from serious newspapers or tv channels. For example in Sweden young africans and asians like to target blonde girls. I wish it wasn't true, but it is. I suppose that it's also caused by the gangsta culture imported from USA, who knows. Of course that in every population you can get black sheeps, but if we realize the problem, its easier to solve it, or at least understand the situation better. And the sad but true fact is that gangs of young asians and africans, who vandalize, attack innocent citizens, are one of the factors of current european dislike for the immigrants.
 
Amadeus85 said:
I said some asian youths (in UK its mostly Pakistani). In Italy there were really examples of rapes done by Morrocans and Tunisians but also by Romanians and Gypsies. To defend the italian women, the citizens of italian cities created civil militias. This is reality, I didnt take it from comic book, but from serious newspapers or tv channels. For example in Sweden young africans and asians like to target blonde girls. I wish it wasn't true, but it is. I suppose that it's also caused by the gangsta culture imported from USA, who knows. Of course that in every population you can get black sheeps, but if we realize the problem, its easier to solve it, or at least understand the situation better. And the sad but true fact is that gangs of young asians and africans, who vandalize, attack innocent citizens, are one of the factors of current european dislike for the immigrants.
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what about the illiegal immigration circles by the Italian mafia - or there drug trade.

what about the rough eastend gangs of London

The Russian sex slave trade

anti semitism by right wingers.

Non of these things are imported they were there for a long time.

Lets not forget that "blacks" and "asians" are minorities - so its easy to blame them and overlook the majority of the population and the majority mafia men who are not ethinic minorities and are into drugs,prostiution and go to church on sundays.
 

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