AP Talley: Obama clinches nomination

[Izyan]

am not crazy. crazy is whoever is dumb enough to vote for this btsh obama

He hasnt lied yet... but neither has clinton. You said she is likely to lie about wut she says like her husband did. ok , well obama has bad quotes already, imagine how much he would lie wit his things.

Obama sucks. He will only kill palestine. also did u kno his wife is a racist...oooh perrfect president for mostly WHITE country eh?
Where did i call americans stupid? u mean the calling them gay? i meant the country not the peope...by that i mean some people.
You guys had a good choice before, but now she's out, now u have a choice between this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaP9eiWuX3s

or that dumb retard liar who i can tell u now, will turn america, and the whole world to a hell! cough bigger than it already is from bush coughcough

Most white? Have you ever seen the The Danes and the Dutch?

 

[truemuslim]

^ omg why you people get the LITTLEST details?!

Juss so you know Obama is doing enough muslim bashing ALREADY by throwing his support behind israel! How does that sound good at all?!

 

[MTAFFI]

am not crazy. crazy is whoever is dumb enough to vote for this btsh obama

To each his/her own opinion

He hasnt lied yet... but neither has clinton. You said she is likely to lie about wut she says like her husband did. ok , well obama has bad quotes already, imagine how much he would lie wit his things.

UMMM.. Bosnian sniper fire?? Type CLinton and liar in the same string on yahoo or google and see the results for yourself. What has Obama lied about? What constitutes a "bad quote"?

Obama sucks. He will only kill palestine. also did u kno his wife is a racist...oooh perrfect president for mostly WHITE country eh?

I dont think he will kill Palestine, perhaps by engaging in talks with nations like Iran and Syria he can make strides in Israel and Palestine as well..

Where did you hear his wife is racist? I would like a link for that, if it is the case, with that and the reverend wright saga it may turn me off to the guy completely.. Well that and the fact he has very little experience

Where did i call americans stupid? u mean the calling them gay? i meant the country not the peope...by that i mean some people.
You guys had a good choice before, but now she's out, now u have a choice between this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaP9eiWuX3s

OK.. You seem to revolve around Israel/Palestine, so what makes you think Clinton was taking any better stance? If you think she wouldnt cater to the Jewish Israeli lobby then I am afraid you are sadly mistaken.

Also, I suppose you didnt directly call americans stupid, BUT you did say "maybe u guys" implying that I am in fact one of those stupid people, but in short you have said so far that:

America decides to put its nosy selfish gay self

mayb u guys gna be stupid again

oh well i hope america burns

All of that is really rather offensive, where are you from? Maybe I can criticize your nation and it political and social affairs?

or that dumb retard liar who i can tell u now, will turn america, and the whole world to a hell! cough bigger than it already is from bush coughcough

no doubt Bush is a blundering buffoon, let us see what the potential new leaders have to offer though before we through them under the bus with the previous administration, one or the other is going to run this country, might as well vote for the best possibility, right? No matter how bad the best option may be

 

[Fishman]

American politics must be really difficult when it comes to elections. The only two parties that actually stand a chance are almost the same, and there are bigger fights between contenders from the same party (like Obama and Clinton) than between different actual sides.

The politics must be polarised more. The Republicans must become right-wing rich people who carry cheque books, briefcases and Bibles with them all the time, the Democrats must become a centrist party that can't decide which side of the fence to be on, and you must add in a Socialist party with red flags, gold stars and that cool cyrillic writing that they put on communist propaganda.

 

[MTAFFI]

Most white? Have you ever seen the The Danes and the Dutch?

whites make up almost or more than 50% of the US populace... I wouldnt want a racist black wife in the "white" house, the reverend wright saga is bad enough

 

[MTAFFI]

American politics must be really difficult when it comes to elections. The only two parties that actually stand a chance are almost the same, and there are bigger fights between contenders from the same party (like Obama and Clinton) than between different actual sides.

The politics must be polarised more. The Republicans must become right-wing rich people who carry cheque books, briefcases and Bibles with them all the time, the Democrats must become a centrist party that can't decide which side of the fence to be on, and you must add in a Socialist party with red flags, gold stars and that cool cyrillic writing that they put on communist propaganda.

lol... yes we must have a socialist party lol

 

[truemuslim]

To each his/her own opinion


UMMM.. Bosnian sniper fire?? Type CLinton and liar in the same string on yahoo or google and see the results for yourself. What has Obama lied about? What constitutes a "bad quote"?


I dont think he will kill Palestine, perhaps by engaging in talks with nations like Iran and Syria he can make strides in Israel and Palestine as well..

Where did you hear his wife is racist? I would like a link for that, if it is the case, with that and the reverend wright saga it may turn me off to the guy completely.. Well that and the fact he has very little experience


OK.. You seem to revolve around Israel/Palestine, so what makes you think Clinton was taking any better stance? If you think she wouldnt cater to the Jewish Israeli lobby then I am afraid you are sadly mistaken.

Also, I suppose you didnt directly call americans stupid, BUT you did say "maybe u guys" implying that I am in fact one of those stupid people, but in short you have said so far that:






All of that is really rather offensive, where are you from? Maybe I can criticize your nation and it political and social affairs?

no doubt Bush is a blundering buffoon, let us see what the potential new leaders have to offer though before we through them under the bus with the previous administration, one or the other is going to run this country, might as well vote for the best possibility, right? No matter how bad the best option may be

Oh they started learning Barack himself might be racist too! ;D this is hilarius. I hope judgement day comes before November '08 :X
neways i saw it on CNN and a bunch of OTHER channels EVERYWHERE on our tv. NO i didnt record it
but her is one link i found...couldnt read it right coz ima rush. so if anything is wrong in there. sorry. http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=1182

Ok i typed in Clinton Liar, She might be. ok.
But then i also typed in Obama liar. I think u should cheg it out too!

Ok well im from the U.S, now feel free to critisize WHATEVER you liike :statisfie

WaSalaam

 

[MTAFFI]

Oh they started learning Barack himself might be racist too! ;D this is hilarius. I hope judgement day comes before November '08 :X
neways i saw it on CNN and a bunch of OTHER channels EVERYWHERE on our tv. NO i didnt record it
but her is one link i found...couldnt read it right coz ima rush. so if anything is wrong in there. sorry. http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=1182

Ok i typed in Clinton Liar, She might be. ok.
But then i also typed in Obama liar. I think u should cheg it out too!

Ok well im from the U.S, now feel free to critisize WHATEVER you liike :statisfie

WaSalaam

that is very interesting and information like that could turn out to be devastating to Obama's campaign

Glad you now know Clinton is a liar
I looked at it, he is more a liar by omission rather than a flat out liar (no better)

So you are from the US? Can you pick somewhere else just for entertainment purposes?

 

[truemuslim]

that is very interesting and information like that could turn out to be devastating to Obama's campaign

Glad you now know Clinton is a liar
I looked at it, he is more a liar by omission rather than a flat out liar (no better)

So you are from the US? Can you pick somewhere else just for entertainment purposes?

Yep!
No one can expect a perfect/good american president can they? Doubt it. All would have to lie bout something, do something bad, or have at least one thing bad in there plans for the ...country...or more like WORLD.
I guess non could live knowing they leader of U.S ONLY instead of the WHOLE world :rollseyes

Right NOW im in the U.S...ohio to be exact.
Background is Yemen tho. so ima yemeni :statisfie
Pick on yemen for entertainment and i pick on wherever u are and at u ! so try me! :raging: joking...(coughnotreallycoughcough

 

[MTAFFI]

Yep!
No one can expect a perfect/good american president can they? Doubt it. All would have to lie bout something, do something bad, or have at least one thing bad in there plans for the ...country...or more like WORLD.
I guess non could live knowing they leader of U.S ONLY instead of the WHOLE world :rollseyes

Right NOW im in the U.S...ohio to be exact.
Background is Yemen tho. so ima yemeni :statisfie
Pick on yemen for entertainment and i pick on wherever u are and at u ! so try me! :raging: joking...(coughnotreallycoughcough

Oh.. hi.. oh <-- that was super corny

anyways, yemeni huh? well despite having a 35% unemployment rate and even if you do work, the average GDP is a mere $2,400.00 and the fact it is a underdeveloped nation despite the fact that it is one of the old places of civilization in the world, at least their government and people are not corrupt... oh wait never mind, see this:

Human rights

The human rights situation in Yemen is poor. The government and its security forces, often considered to suffer from rampant corruption, have been responsible for torture, inhumane treatment and even extra judicial executions. There are arbitrary arrests of citizens, specially in the south, as well as arbitrary searches of homes. Prolonged pretrial detention is a serious problem, and judicial corruption, inefficiency, and executive interference undermine due process. Freedom of speech, the press and religion are all restricted. [16]

Human Rights Watch reported on discrimination and violence against women as well as on the abolition of the minimum marriage age of the age of fifteen for woman. The onset of puberty (interpreted by conservatives to be at the age of nine) was set as a requirement for marriage instead.[17] Reports of other forms of hostile prejudice directed towards disabled people, and ethnic and religious minorities were also reported. Censorship is actively practiced and in 2005 legislation was passed requiring journalists to reveal their sources under certain circumstances, and the government has raised the start-up costs for newspapers and websites significantly. In violation of the Yemeni constitution, the security forces often monitor telephone, postal, and Internet communications. Journalists who tend to be critical of the government are often harassed and threatened by the police.[5]

Since the start of the Sa'dah insurgency many people accused of supporting Al-Houthi, have been arrested and held without charge or trial. According to the US Department of State, International Religious Freedom Report 2007, "Some Zaydis reported harassment and discrimination by the Government because they were suspected of sympathizing with the al-Houthis. However, it appears the Government's actions against the group were probably politically, not religiously, motivated"

yikes...lol


now for the real entertainment, I am a bit of a human mutt..lol.. my hertitage is diverse, I am German/ Polish/ Italian, probably more Italian than anything since my father is full blooded and the first to marry outside his ethnic group.. Have fun, dont be too rough on me..lol

 

[Izyan]

American politics must be really difficult when it comes to elections. The only two parties that actually stand a chance are almost the same, and there are bigger fights between contenders from the same party (like Obama and Clinton) than between different actual sides.

The politics must be polarised more. The Republicans must become right-wing rich people who carry cheque books, briefcases and Bibles with them all the time, the Democrats must become a centrist party that can't decide which side of the fence to be on, and you must add in a Socialist party with red flags, gold stars and that cool cyrillic writing that they put on communist propaganda.

In our history when thing get so polarized a new party normally springs from the 2 party to make up a third. The third party normally do excpetionally well and kills of one of the 2 original parties from the Federalists to the Whigs to Democrats.

 

[Keltoi]

For those focusing on Obama's speech at AIPAC, he was more interested in trying to reconnect the black community with the Jewish community in the U.S. Hillary gave a speech right after Obama and said many of the same things. You don't go to AIPAC and start talking about dividing Jerusalem and dismantling Israel as a Jewish state. Even if Obama did wish to end U.S. support for Israel, which he doesn't, there is no better way to get McCain into the White House than a black man giving a speech that sounds anti-semetic or anti-Israel.

 

[MTAFFI]

McCain and Obama: a stark matchup

By Linda Feldmann Thu Jun 5, 4:00 AM ET

Washington - The contrasts could not be more stark: an African-American Democrat versus a white Republican. The latter old enough to be the father of the former. One with no military experience, the other with a long Navy career punctuated by a harrowing period of captivity in a Hanoi prison camp. One with a soaring rhetorical style that can light up a sports arena, the other more comfortable in the back-and-forth banter of a town-hall meeting.
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Then there are the policy differences between the two presumptive major-party nominees for president. John McCain (R) is one of the Senate's most outspoken supporters of the Iraq war, while Barack Obama (D) has opposed it from the start. Senator McCain wants big tax cuts and less government spending; Senator Obama wants tax breaks targeted at the middle class and greater government involvement in job creation. On healthcare, McCain emphasizes consumer choice and market forces, while Obama favors government action that puts the nation on track toward universal coverage.

As the 2008 general election campaign kicks off, one point is already certain: The outcome will be historic. America will elect either its first African-American president or its oldest first-term president. But just as striking as their differences is a key similarity. Neither was the first choice of their party establishment for the nomination, and both have promised "a different kind of politics" from the highly partisan, divisive wrangling that has come to mark Washington for the past 20 years.

Both men hold appeal among independent voters – about a third of the electorate – and whoever wins a majority of them wins in November. So while both candidates must hold onto the bulk of their party regulars, they will also play to the nonideological center in a way that the nominees didn't in the last two presidential races.

Still, for McCain, the anti-Republican headwind he faces cannot be underestimated.

In any analysis of the 2008 race, "you start with the already-well-described Democratic advantage this time around, beginning with unhappiness over the war and the economy," says Bruce Buchanan, a political scientist at the University of Texas, Austin.

President Bush's abysmal job approval ratings also don't do McCain any favors. Even if Bush were doing reasonably well, history would still point toward a Democrat in 2008. Rarely is a two-term president succeeded by the nominee of his own party.

Generic polls show Americans preferring, with no names attached, a Democratic president to a Republican by a double-digit margin.

But McCain's image of independence and working across the aisle gives him a shot in November. So far, he is holding his own in polls versus Obama.

One of the great unknowns is the race factor. With no historical precedents for a nonwhite nominee, it is impossible to predict how or where Obama's race will affect his chances.

While McCain faced some grumbling among key GOP constituencies when he locked up the party nomination – particularly among movement conservatives and evangelical voters – Obama, too, must unify his party after a divisive primary season. He will need the support of the working class, older, and Hispanic voters that flocked to Hillary Rodham Clinton, and thus how she ends her candidacy and whether she works hard for Obama's election loom large over Obama's chances.

Party strategists warn against making too much of the intraparty squabbling.

"I think both candidates will get 80 percent of their party's voters at the end of the day," says Bill Carrick, a Democratic strategist based in Los Angeles.

"After eight years of George Bush, I just don't think Democrats will be voting for Republicans," says Mr. Carrick. "And when things calm down, they'll recognize that it's in the Democrats' best interest to elect Senator Obama. And Republicans will have the same feeling about McCain."

This leaves the moderates and the independents as the battleground. McCain is already trying mightily to distance himself from Bush, appearing in public with him as little as possible and pointedly criticizing his administration for its blunders, such as the handling of hurricane Katrina and what McCain saw was mishandling of the early years of the Iraq war.

McCain is also seizing opportunities to highlight his policy differences with Bush, such as his support for limits on greenhouse-gas emissions that the Bush administration resisted.

But every time the debate comes back to Iraq, McCain risks looking in lock step with Bush. McCain was a big proponent of last year's "surge" in US troop presence in Iraq, and so his complaints of the handling of the war have diminished.

Going forward, the mantra that Obama introduced first – change – will now be the theme of both campaigns. From the McCain camp, the question will be whose change do voters want, the change that a "maverick," experienced leader can bring, or the change that a young man who just four years ago was a state senator in Illinois can bring.

From the Obama camp, the emphasis will be on judgment over years of Washington experience.

During the primaries, Senator Clinton failed to gain serious traction over her highly debated advertisement asking voters whom they would want answering the phone at 3 a.m. In fact, analysts say, it may have only served to point to McCain as the most experienced candidate on national-security matters.

But even there, as polls show Americans more concerned about the economy than about Iraq or terrorism, McCain starts his general election run with a big anchor around his legs.

"He's in a tough situation, McCain, given that the major issues are going to be economic and that these issues do favor a Democratic candidate," says Stephen Wayne, a political scientist at Georgetown University.

"McCain can campaign if he wants on national-security grounds, but unless there's a change in the international environment and a perceived threat to the US, I don't know where that's going to get him."

McCain's admitted weakness on economic matters could be helped by selecting a running mate with a strong reputation on economics and finance, such as former Rep. Rob Portman (R) of Ohio, also Mr. Bush's former budget director, or Mitt Romney, ex-governor Massachusetts and a wealthy businessman.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20080605/ts_csm/amatchup

 

[crayon]

Since you hate them all who would you rather see run the country?

I've absolutely no idea...

 

[Izyan]

I've absolutely no idea...

So you are willing to critisize but give no useful alternatives.

 

[crayon]

So you are willing to critisize but give no useful alternatives.

When it comes to politics, yes, actually. I'm not interested in researching all those involved in american politics and deciding which one I think would be a fit president. From Obama, McCain, or Hilary, the ones I see on TV everyday, I don't support anyone. I think they all suck equally.

 

[MTAFFI]

When it comes to politics, yes, actually. I'm not interested in researching all those involved in american politics and deciding which one I think would be a fit president. From Obama, McCain, or Hilary, the ones I see on TV everyday, I don't support anyone. I think they all suck equally.

if only the presidential hopefuls had that sort of honesty

 

[crayon]

Honest politicians?? HAH!

 

[snakelegs]

can anyone give me one significant difference between obama and clinton?
(other than that he voteed against invading iraq and she voted for)

 

[truemuslim]

^ well clinton isnt planning on envading pakistan just to fight over OBL...