AP Talley: Obama clinches nomination

[Tania]

I really hope us to have a peaceful president which will not ruin other peoples life and families.

 

[truemuslim]

^ Yeh, Inshallah....

 

[Keltoi]

I'm sure its better to buy into that than Republican speeches about wars on terrorism, tax cuts and the non-existance of global warming...

Why is it better? Because you're a liberal of course. I tend to like tax cuts.

 

[Keltoi]

Look, they can't be any worse than what that waste of space bush is! Republicans have screwed up your enconomy, or do you have blinkers on and can't see/say anything negative about them as you're a supporter??

Republicans didn't do anything to the economy. Contrary to popular myth, the Iraq War has nothing to do with the state of the economy. It started with a downward spiral with real estate and the rising price of gasoline caused by increased world demand. It is also part of a business cycle. Believe it or not, the president has very little impact on the American economy...except for tax breaks.

 

[Fishman]

Why is it better? Because you're a liberal of course. I tend to like tax cuts.

Change in society> tax cuts.

And fear-mongering about 'terror' and spreading fake science about how global warming does not exist are not particularly high on my list of things which I would want to hear from a presidential candidate.

 

[Muezzin]

Easy, folks. A lot of people aren't even from the USA on this thread, so it would be great if everybody just cooled it down a tad.

That said, the irony is deliciously hilarious.

 

[Fishman]

Easy, folks. A lot of people aren't even from the USA on this thread, so it would be great if everybody just cooled it down a tad.

That said, the irony is deliciously hilarious.

But your mods deleted my rubbish joke!

 

[truemuslim]

Easy, folks. A lot of people aren't even from the USA on this thread, so it would be great if everybody just cooled it down a tad.

That said, the irony is deliciously hilarious.

lol
yes but the whoever the president of the u.s is effects the whole world
u kno bush thought he was leader of the world! looool look at this ! hahahaaa :laugh:

 

[Keltoi]

Change in society> tax cuts.

And fear-mongering about 'terror' and spreading fake science about how global warming does not exist are not particularly high on my list of things which I would want to hear from a presidential candidate.

I don't think the point is whether global warming exists, the point is whether human beings are the culprits of said warming.

 

[Izyan]

Look, they can't be any worse than what that waste of space bush is! Republicans have screwed up your enconomy, or do you have blinkers on and can't see/say anything negative about them as you're a supporter??

Republicans didn't screw up the economy. The president has very strong restraints on him when it comes to the economy. There are only 3 things he can do. He can affect fiscal policy by increasing or decreasing government, He can raise or lower taxes, or he can order a buy or sell on government bonds. That's all he can do and he can't even do those things without the approval of congress. The US economy is largely determined by consumer confidence. It's like one giant roller coaster that's always going up or down. It's largely cyclical and can be pretty well predicted. Don't worry about the economy because we aren't as bad off as it seems. Over in Europe and the ME they have twice the unemployment rate that we do.

 

[Izyan]

lol
yes but the whoever the president of the u.s is effects the whole world
u kno bush thought he was leader of the world! looool look at this ! hahahaaa :laugh:

I hate to break this to you but he was democratically elected as president. We have something here called the electoral college that most people even in the US don't understand. As for Florida, 3 different newspapers were able to get the ballots from Florida under the Freedom of Information Act and all 3 say Bush would have won any recount. One of the newspapers was the NY Times, an ardent critic of this administration.

 

[Chuck]

Republicans didn't screw up the economy. The president has very strong restraints on him when it comes to the economy. There are only 3 things he can do. He can affect fiscal policy by increasing or decreasing government, He can raise or lower taxes, or he can order a buy or sell on government bonds. That's all he can do and he can't even do those things without the approval of congress. The US economy is largely determined by consumer confidence. It's like one giant roller coaster that's always going up or down. It's largely cyclical and can be pretty well predicted. Don't worry about the economy because we aren't as bad off as it seems. Over in Europe and the ME they have twice the unemployment rate that we do.

President can do another thing -- cut trillion dollars of expenditure on Iraq and other countries. If that money was being spent inside US rather than out-side that would have boasted the consumer confidence and economy.

 

[barrio79]

Whos is better Mccain Or Obama ????

Time will tell

 

[Izyan]

President can do another thing -- cut trillion dollars of expenditure on Iraq and other countries. If that money was being spent inside US rather than out-side that would have boasted the consumer confidence and economy.

Not exactlly. When you factor in inlation more was spent on WWII and helped stimulate the US economy out of the Depression. Also war and the military help promote innovation and technologies. Many things that we have today were first designed for military use.

 

[MTAFFI]

Not exactlly. When you factor in inlation more was spent on WWII and helped stimulate the US economy out of the Depression. Also war and the military help promote innovation and technologies. Many things that we have today were first designed for military use.

more was spent on wwII but US companies were hiring people to build, test, etc the equipment and therefore kept the economy somewhat stimulated, not to mention we were pumping out goods to other nations as well.. This war has stimulated nothing as far as our economy goes, and because of where the war is taking place it is more than likely why we are paying at the pump like we are, you can deny that if you like as it cannot be proven fact, however look at gas prices before and after 9/11... To say that the money that has been wasted on this war wouldnt be better used by pumping it into our economy or using it toward our national debt or combating trade deficit by making it easier and cheaper to produce things in our own country is as naive as it is ridiculous.

 

[Izyan]

more was spent on wwII but US companies were hiring people to build, test, etc the equipment and therefore kept the economy somewhat stimulated, not to mention we were pumping out goods to other nations as well.. This war has stimulated nothing as far as our economy goes, and because of where the war is taking place it is more than likely why we are paying at the pump like we are, you can deny that if you like as it cannot be proven fact, however look at gas prices before and after 9/11... To say that the money that has been wasted on this war wouldnt be better used by pumping it into our economy or using it toward our national debt or combating trade deficit by making it easier and cheaper to produce things in our own country is as naive as it is ridiculous.

You give politicians too much credit. Was any of this being done prior to 9/11? No it wasn't. The Iraq war isn't affecting oil prices speculators, oil companies, and OPEC is. We recieve oil from Canada, Mexico, Venezuela. and SA in that order. Iraq oil production is at pre-wa levels.

 

[MTAFFI]

You give politicians too much credit. Was any of this being done prior to 9/11? No it wasn't. The Iraq war isn't affecting oil prices speculators, oil companies, and OPEC is. We recieve oil from Canada, Mexico, Venezuela. and SA in that order. Iraq oil production is at pre-wa levels.

I never disputed that, my comment was in regard to the geographic location.. If you read the news recently, you will have heard of the Israelis comment with regard to attacking Iran, you will then notice that oil spiked $11 dollars per barrel.. I dont think we even get a single drop of oil from Iran, but yet the prices spiked.. Also, if possible please provide reference to Iraqi oil be at pre war levels, my understanding is that the infrastructure is too weak and that it is well below, while some production is still being made

As for giving politicians too much credit.. I dont give them much at all.. I fully realize that one man will not effectively destroy or rebuild our economy, however government spending is based on a budget and it tumbles right down the hill. If a large portion of the budget (iraq) is spent then it leaves little for other things, such as road repair, schools, government building, law enforcement, development in infrastructure in general. When these jobs are lost or people are laid off because this much needed work is stopped it plays a significant role in what we are witnessing today. The loss of jobs, less money for the general public to spend, unrest in the stock market, people saving rather than spending, the prices begin to rise because products are not being consumed at a fast enough rate. I am not saying that the government ever pumped as much money into our economy as it is into Iraq, I am saying that if in some unworldly event they did, you could kiss this recession and housing and credit crisis goodbye.

Also you mentioned nothing about our national debt or trade deficit, which both effect the value of our dollar. This is another very very significant aspect of the economic woes and should not be overlooked.