Are the American/Western Politicians Liars ?

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I being born in the USA I was taught to respect the President Most Americans I meet seem to Idolize American Presidents. It is a Cult of Personality in my view. The American Presidents/Politicians are Puppets of the Wealthy/The Rich Big Money/Profit Corporations Banks the Media and the Lobbyists. Many Americans that I know think that the President and other past Presidents and other Politicians care about the people and the poor and the homeless are the Politicians Liars ? Also are these Politicians just good Christians or do they have a agenda thank you ?



Whether lobbyists work for a large organization, a private individual, or the general public, their goals and strategies are the same. First and foremost, lobbyists must be adept at the art of persuasion, which is the mainstay of their job. They must figure out how to sway politicians to vote on legislation in a way that favors the interest they represent. This means tailoring appeals to specific individuals as well as to group voting blocs, such as Southerners or pro-choicers. Lobbyists also occasionally lobby one another. When normally opposing groups find a common area of interest and can present a united front they are extremely effective.


http://www.princetonreview.com/careers.aspx?cid=88
 
Its all a bunch of garbage. This goes for any political leader anywhere in the world, especially if they have to be elected.
 
GodIsAll said:
Its all a bunch of garbage. This goes for any political leader anywhere in the world, especially if they have to be elected.
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Yes, this. All politicians are liars.

Well maybe not all, but I have yet to really see or hear anything about an honest politician.

It's all part of the Vast Conspiracy...
 
Politician and liar are synonyms.

To be a politician you have to be a liar.
To be a good politician you have to be a mythomaniac.

American leaders are good politicians.
 
GodIsAll said:
Its all a bunch of garbage. This goes for any political leader anywhere in the world, especially if they have to be elected.
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Exactly. This has nothing to do with American or Western politicians. This is all politicians. An honest politician is like a short giant or dry water.
 
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So what is the solution?
Would Campaign Reform help?

Big money that buys access and influence in Washington dominates our policies and corrupts our politics. The only way to get big money out of politics is to cut politicians’ dependence on big campaign contributions. http://www.acrreform.org/
 
I don't believe or think that only American and or Western Politicans/Political Leaders lie Im sure that there are Political Leaders who claim to be Christians that are liars as well as Political Leaders who claim to be Jewish and Im sure there are Political Leaders that claim to be Muslims that are liars. I don't believe that lying Politicans is limited to just one Religion Nation or Nations. I think American Politicans want to be elected and or to win votes therefor they will say anything in a Political Speech or in a Political Debate or at a Political Rally just to get elected. Politicans are very Wealthy they don't care about the Poor People or the Homeless or the Sick of any Religion Race or Nation Politicans just pretend to care about helping People or promoting Economic Justice. Democrats and Republicans in America are just two sides of the same coin both support Capitalism/Corporations/War for Profit. I just don't think President Obama George Bush or Bill Clinton lay awake at night worrying about the Homeless People in America or in any other Nation for that matter. Yes I know America and other Western Nations have minimum wage laws unemployment insurance social security profit sharing medicare medicaid and welfare and food stamps but does the Government give the People these things out of compassion for others and because they are good hearted Christians or is it because they want to be elected and to get votes and if the Government stopped sending out Welfare Checks the Poor would riot commit crime and there would be a revolution ? The Government wants People to Depend on the Government.



[h=2]100,000 welfare recipients in Berlin threatened with eviction[/h][h=5]By Ernst Wolff
3 March 2012[/h]Under welfare legislation (known as Hartz IV) first introduced by Germany’s former Social Democratic-Green government headed by Gerhard Schröder, the monthly rent for single recipients in Berlin must not exceed 378 euros. The limit for couples is €444 and for a three-person household €542. For a family of four, the maximum rent is €619. If the apartment is subject to a rent increase that exceeds these limits then the apartment must be vacated. If this does not take place voluntarily then the tenant will be removed and relocated by force.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/mar2012/berl-m03.shtml

Myth: The poor receive the most welfare.

Fact: Corporations receive the most welfare.

Summary

Entitlement spending on households is surprisingly "flat" in the U.S. -- the spending is distributed proportionately among the various income groups. However, federal spending tilts in favor of the rich when you add corporate welfare to the mix. And this pro-wealthy favoritism becomes more pronounced when you consider who is paying for it: over the last few decades, the tax rates for the rich have sharply fallen, both in personal income and corporate taxes.



As you can see, federal entitlements are distributed proportionately among the income groups (with insignificant shifts towards the poor and the very rich). If taxes were flat as well under this distribution system, then Uncle Sam would simply be returning everyone's money to them -- a pointless and wasteful exercise, everyone would agree. It's only when taxes are more progressive that income is shifted downward under the above system. For this reason, the loss of tax progressivity over the last several decades means that less income is being redistributed to the poor, and Uncle Sam is increasingly engaging in a pointless exercise:


http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-corporatewelfare.htm
 
Look guys, you gotta understand that a politician is the kinda guy who can tell you to eff off in such a way, he'll make you look forward to the trip... these guys are not just liars - but the ones who made an art out of lying, and gave it a fancy name - "politics".

Scimi
 
The Cia the Fbi the Army and the Police are a part of the American Government correct ? Does the President lead control or head the Cia Fbi and the Army and the Police ? Though out history these institutions have been viewed as oppressive do you agree or disagree ?

Bill O'Reilly Goes Head-to-Head With Rapper Who Called Obama a Terrorist

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Monday, Bill O'Reilly went head-to-head with rapper Lupe Fiasco, who has accused the president of terrorism. In a previous interview, Fiasco said, "To me, the biggest terrorist is Obama."

The rapper put his comments in context as saying they were "an expression of me trying to, I guess, understand critically the society." O'Reilly defended the president, saying "President Obama is not a terrorist. He's trying to do what he believes is the right thing to do."
Bill said that he's concerned that Fiasco's fans are impressionable kids who are taking his message to heart. Fiasco stood by his position, saying, "I don't think politics are as complex as people like to make them seem."

The rapper went on to claim, "If you are going to fight terrorism, to me, you fight the root causes of terrorism." Bill, again, backed up the president and U.S. foreign policies, saying, "The United States cannot cure ills in the world. What the President of the United States' responsibility is is to protect you and me. That's his responsibility and he's doing it through aggressive action."

For more from the Fox News Insider, check out http://foxnewsinsider.com.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmM9_Y5uiW4
 
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Also are the Mossad the Israeli Army and the Israeli Police institutions of the Israeli Government ?

Lavon Affair

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The Lavon Affair refers to a failed Israeli covert operation, code named Operation Susannah, conducted in Egypt in the Summer of 1954. As part of the false flag operation,[SUP][1][/SUP] a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence for plans to plant bombs inside Egyptian, American and British-owned targets. The attacks were to be blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood, Egyptian Communists, "unspecified malcontents" or "local nationalists" with the aim of creating a climate of sufficient violence and instability to induce the British government to retain its occupying troops in Egypt's Suez Canal zone.[SUP][2][/SUP] The operation caused no casualties, except for those members of the cell who committed suicide after being captured.
The operation became known as the Lavon Affair after the Israeli defense minister Pinhas Lavon, who was forced to resign because of the incident, or euphemistically as the Unfortunate Affair or The Bad Business (Hebrew: העסק ביש‎, HaEsek Bish or העסק הביש, HaEsek HaBish). After being denied for 51 years, the surviving agents were in 2005 officially honored with a certificate of appreciation by the Israeli President Moshe Katzav.[SUP][3][/SUP]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair
 
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American politicians go beyond the "acceptable" form of liar. They trample on our Constitutional liberties and the citizens are fed up
 
Politicians use the truth to tell lies.

Writes use lies to tell the truth.

(V for Vendetta FTW)
 
No, you're screwing it all up. It's "Artists use lies to tell the truth, while politicians use them to cover the truth up."
 
Yes. Like others said.
Also, I read that a good leader is the one who does not want to be a leader but people want him to be a leader. I don't see that happening here anymore.
Even our current leader is swinging left and right to get votes this year. He is not even trying to hide his intentions. Its really pathetic.
 
arjmand said:
Yes. Like others said.
Also, I read that a good leader is the one who does not want to be a leader but people want him to be a leader. I don't see that happening here anymore.
Even our current leader is swinging left and right to get votes this year. He is not even trying to hide his intentions. Its really pathetic.
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Yep. The gay marriage thing, anyone? Does anyone want to tell me that it was not a ploy to get votes in an election year?
 

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