Are video games Halal/Haraam???

.hasan. said:
Personally I can't see the benefits that art brings to a person, so hence they are a waste of time. People could do so much more with their time tbh
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Assalamu alaykum

So I've heard from more people than I can count.

I'm planning to pursue a career in the Islamic arts of calligraphy and geometry, they are far from waste of time imho. I really don't think they can be compared to video games in this regard.

Khayr, I also believe everyone is entitled to their opinions. :)
 
noraina said:
Assalamu alaykum

So I've heard from more people than I can count.

I'm planning to pursue a career in the Islamic arts of calligraphy and geometry, they are far from waste of time imho. I really don't think they can be compared to video games in this regard.

Khayr, I also believe everyone is entitled to their opinions. :)
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I think my post may have been a bit harsh, I guess I just got annoyed that everyone thinks video games are a waste of time. My apologies.

Jazak'Allah khayran
 
.hasan. said:
I think my post may have been a bit harsh, I guess I just got annoyed that everyone thinks video games are a waste of time. My apologies.

Jazak'Allah khayran
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Wa iyaak

I think everyone means that video games can end up being so stimulating and captivating you can end up spending hours on them at a time instead of doing something more beneficial. If one could manage them in moderation it would be okay.


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Too many video games overstimulates the mind and makes it get tired way too easily with other things
 
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actually video games are not bad. They help build dexterity skills, vision practice (scope of sight), and variety of skills depending on the game (quick thinking if fast action game, logical thinking if mystery/adventure games (like indiana jones), etc). In fact studies shown video games to be good exercise for the brain as it engages different parts of the brain. The key, like in all things, is moderation.

What really is a waste of time is being couch potatoes watching games and your "favorite" teams, there's absolutely no benefit to that activity, not only no positive benefit but rather a negative effect of sitting for hours and hours taking a toll on your health, body muscles ,nerves and brain.

Study shows video games leading to improvement in cognitive functions, motor control and overall perception.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ollieba...ion-video-games-is-good-for-you/#3e6bc45b84a5
http://www.iflscience.com/brain/playing-video-games-good-your-brain-here-s-how/
 
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The words halaan and haraam are used so liberally these days. Only very specific things have been labeled as clearly haraam. Video games may be deemed as a waste of time or the graphic violence and in some cases the sex in them may be deemed haraam but ofc not all video games can be haraam en masse.

there is nothing wrong in Islam with having hobbies and spending your free time doing something other than working, praying and educating. If playing a game that meets certain criteria is what you like, go for it. Something like Mario if not GTA.
 
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I don't think killings in Games is bad or negative. Is it? Surely killing people in real life is haram, but not in videogames.

Sure it can be a waste of time if one spends 10 hours everyday, delaying one's prayers, etc. That is wrong.

GTA V has haram elements in it, and soo have many games. It has been 1 year or 2 since I have played any game, really.

But, isn't it better to play games than waste time doing nothing in one's free time.

If one can balance it, i.e. not let it take over one's prayers, or reading Quran, then, there is no problem playing games, as long as there is no haram or shirk.

Killing people in games, I can not say is haram. Cuz it is just a game. One does not become a psychopath from killing people in games. And usually people who take inspiration from games and do it in real life (for example - hurt someone) they have some other issue that is not tied to the game. Cuz no sane man would go kill someone because of a game.

I like games with strategy, RPG and FPS. It can act as a social barrier breaker.

Games that force people to work together and form a team, etc. Are good games. Provided that it is free from shirk.
Allahu alam.
 
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I've ever made a thread in Advice & Support section which I told about boredom that I felt. I created that thread when I missed my colorful youth life.

I have done many things, experienced many things, in my youth life. Compete in sport competition, walking on forest, climb a mountain, fishing on lake, camping, and many other activities. Doing these activities made me could feel the beauty of youth life.

Yeah, youth life is beautiful. But youth life will never come twice. Once it has gone, it will never come back.

.....and you will lose the beauty of youth life if you spend your time in video game.
 
We should try to live balanced life. Like do a little bit of this and a little bit of that every day, not doing only one thing or hobby all the time, then playing wouldn´t be so harmfull to our brains or life in general. Some exercise, some studing, some relaxing (maybe with games), some social life, some time for only fo ourselves (like being a couch potato is we feel it´s relaxing for us), some something else and we can get the most benefit from kind of activities. Unfortunately playing games may take the major role for someone´s life and addict very easily.


And for this, I couldn´t agree more:

Born_Believer said:
The words halaan and haraam are used so liberally these days. Only very specific things have been labeled as clearly haraam.
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.hasan. said:
I think my post may have been a bit harsh, I guess I just got annoyed that everyone thinks video games are a waste of time. My apologies.
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They are totally correct, video games are there to "kill time". You play them when you are bored. You will neglect your duties when playing and generally become a lot more frustrated with life because you couldn't finish that level, or lost one of your digital lives trying.

I honestly FAIL to see ANY benefit from video games.

And I say this as someone who occasionally plays wipEout HD Fury. It's just a waste of time.

I want you to list the benefits of video gaming.

Something tells me you'll be playing the "increases reaction time" card... and I will rebut that hard.

Scimi
 
I don't know why so many people on here are anti-video games. Some people doing boring things like going out to enjoy the "youth" , or painting and drawing and other dull stuff, or waste hours cooking unhealthy stuff like cookies, or anything else they find as a joyful hobby. See how that goes? Art and drawing maybe your dream but it's super boring to someone else, as is reading, cooking or going outdoors and get dirty and sick. It's all a matter of perception and personal bias.

As as stated for the 100th time, video games are not haram nor a waste of time nor anything wrong with them. If there is then so it is with all the other hobbies you people do, shame on you and you should be studying and learning and doing ebadaah 24/7.

Hobbies are recreational activities when done to relax and take a break from life. Whether you cook, draw , play outside or play video games, it's all the same. So how about we stop forcing our personal bias towards video games down others throat?

Scimitar said:
They are totally correct, video games are there to "kill time". You play them when you are bored. You will neglect your duties when playing and generally become a lot more frustrated with life because you couldn't finish that level, or lost one of your digital lives trying.

I honestly FAIL to see ANY benefit from video games.

And I say this as someone who occasionally plays wipEout HD Fury. It's just a waste of time.

I want you to list the benefits of video gaming.

Something tells me you'll be playing the "increases reaction time" card... and I will rebut that hard.

Scimi
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You FAIL to see ANY benefits because you FAIL to READ. I suggest visiting the links i posted about studies done on the benefits of video games. In fact, they are being used as a learning methodology in schools now as well.

and if you are getting frustrated and whining over loosing a life or not beating a level and of the sort then apparently you are a cry baby who doesn't know how to handle such things. And it doesn't matter if you play video games or play basketball with others outside, if you don't know how to take a loss then you'll cry regardless. The issue isn't the games, the issue at that point is with you and how you deal with things in life.
 
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aaj said:
You FAIL to see ANY benefits because you FAIL to READ. I suggest visiting the links i posted about studies done on the benefits of video games. In fact, they are being used as a learning methodology in schools now as well.

and if you are getting frustrated and whining over loosing a life or not beating a level and of the sort then apparently you are a cry baby who doesn't know how to handle such things. And it doesn't matter if you play video games or play basketball with others outside, if you don't know how to take a loss then you'll cry regardless. The issue isn't the games, the issue at that point is with you and how you deal with things in life.
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I fail to see how video games which make kids obese and violent are beneficial to mankind.

I fail to see how running around in a park playing football and learning to interact with other children in the real world is not better than video gaming.

I fail to see the argument from ignorance which the gaming industries throw out to convince us that gaming is good for us because it increases hand to eye co-ordination while giving long term gamers metacarpal syndrome in their hands - the point being, what good is hand to eye co-rodination when your hands won't work like they used to?

I fail to see your arguments as justification for the gaming industry period.

In fact, givin a child a tennis ball and playing catch, is way better for hand to eye co-ordination than any video game.

Want me to prove it?

You may be a badass on fifa, but take it to the pitch, and we'll see how your hand to eye co-ordination worked out for you foot to eye co-ordination in real life footy.

The problem with people like you is that you seem to want to justify an habit, which is a waste of time.

Spend your time wisely.

I became the best online on wipEout HD Fury, and can claim that "hand to eye co-ordination champion" card all for my self, should I want it - but I know better than to claim something which simply is not true.

You cannot beat common sense with links to gaming sites bro, period.

Have a nice day.

Scimi
 
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aaj said:
Hobbies are recreational activities when done to relax and take a break from life. Whether you cook, draw , play outside or play video games, it's all the same. So how about we stop forcing our personal bias towards video games down others throat?
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Dude, you seem a little unsettled over our opinions, it's like you believe in Gaming now. LOL

Let me put it to you bluntly,

Video Gaming does not benefit you in any way shape or form, it just increases eye strain, and causes metacarpal issues in the hands, and makes kids fat and lazy.

I wonder if you fit that well defined and witnessed stereotype. And if so, is this why you are so gung ho over gaming?

Now, for the meat of your post.

You claimed "hobby".

An hobby is something which traditionally was a project, which one would engage in, such as model building to scale. In this one example, the hobbyist learns REAL hand to eye co-ordination, and doesn't risk metacarpal syndrome. The hobbyist is often active, moving from one table to the next, or travelling to hobby shops to get the "next part" - come rain or shine. They breath fresh air and meet people with similar interests in the REAL WORLD, where through interaction, they will learn to master their hobby/craft together in order to take their skills to the next level.

Like this, my cousin at the age of 9 started to fly model air planes, the RC ones, he got all his licences mashaAllah and due to his passion, he eventually got his Cessna licence and can fly a real Cessna with a few passengers across the country... but did he stop there?

No.

He went on to develop drone tech for the film industry and has worked with documentary greats such as David Attenborough amongst others,

Hobby?

Bro, you wouldn't know an hobby if it plastered itself in your living room. Honestly.

Your justifications for video gaming are so weak, and sourced straight outta the gaming industry websites, the very same sites which are on the back foot in relation to modern day statistics regarding the causes of obesity in the west - computer gaming being the largest culprit.

So yeah, keep trying to justify your bad habit as an hobby.

It won't fly with me.

Scimi
 
Scimitar said:
I fail to see how video games which make kids obese and violent are beneficial to mankind.

I fail to see how running around in a park playing football and learning to interact with other children in the real world is not better than video gaming.

I fail to see the argument from ignorance which the gaming industries throw out to convince us that gaming is good for us because it increases hand to eye co-ordination while giving long term gamers metacarpal syndrome in their hands - the point being, what good is hand to eye co-rodination when your hands won't work like they used to?

I fail to see your arguments as justification for the gaming industry period.

In fact, givin a child a tennis ball and playing catch, is way better for hand to eye co-ordination than any video game.

Want me to prove it?

You may be a badass on fifa, but take it to the pitch, and we'll see how your hand to eye co-ordination worked out for you foot to eye co-ordination in real life footy.

The problem with people like you is that you seem to want to justify an habit, which is a waste of time.

Spend your time wisely.

I became the best online on wipEout HD Fury, and can claim that "hand to eye co-ordination champion" card all for my self, should I want it - but I know better than to claim something which simply is not true.

You cannot beat common sense with links to gaming sites bro, period.

Have a nice day.

Scimi
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you also fail to see all things in context.

You get obese through unhealthy eating and lack of exercise, not video games.

you become violent through lack of proper up bringing and learning to control your emotions, not video games.

you get corporal syndrome from sitting on pc all day using that keyboard. Or texting on that phone 24/7. ever heard of moderation?

a child won't be playing tennis ball outside in the winter, then again children under the age of 7 shouldn't be given ANY digital devices. Those tablets are not your babysitters.

you proven a lot already, so no thanks i don't need you to prove anything else.

The problem with people like you is that you want to justify others healthy stress reducing halal recreational activities as a waste of time. sitting here posting on non-beneficial threads is waste of time.

spend your time wisely in all things, be it games, forums, cooking, drawing, needlessly arguing...

have a nice day

aaj
 
aaj said:
you also fail to see all things in context.

You get obese through unhealthy eating and lack of exercise, not video games.

you become violent through lack of proper up bringing and learning to control your emotions, not video games.

you get corporal syndrome from sitting on pc all day using that keyboard. Or texting on that phone 24/7. ever heard of moderation?

a child won't be playing tennis ball outside in the winter, then again children under the age of 7 shouldn't be given ANY digital devices. Those tablets are not your babysitters.

you proven a lot already, so no thanks i don't need you to prove anything else.

The problem with people like you is that you want to justify others healthy stress reducing halal recreational activities as a waste of time. sitting here posting on non-beneficial threads is waste of time.

spend your time wisely in all things, be it games, forums, cooking, drawing, needlessly arguing...

have a nice day

aaj
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Ok, acid test, of your ability to know what is best for your children.

When you have children

in sha Allah

Will you let them play video games such as Call of Duty and Assassins Creed ? Ya know? those really popular multi million selling games which every kid (including yourself) think are amazing?

In other words, will you let your children foster a violent mindset, whilst becoming fat tubs of lard?

I think you will.

Have a nice day.

Scimi

EDIT: you got cornered in my post before this one. NO come back for you.
 

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