Are we gods?

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lol.. oh--ok good for you both--hallelujah & praise the lawd!
 
alapiana1 said:
She is a beautiful and at peace with God. God hath not given us a spirit of fear but of power, love and a sound mind. She has been healed.
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A very sad story and may she be healed and return to her senses before it is too late for her. It is always sad to see one throw the truth away after they have had it. But, all things come about as the result of our own choices and we can never blame another.
 
As for the story about the former Muslim who converted to Christianity, it depends on one's point of view. To a Christian this person found the truth, to a Muslim this person walked away from the truth. Neither point of view should be surprising or controversial.
 
Pygoscelis said:
To the thread title - "Are we gods"?

I don't think I'd want that job.
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alapiana1 said:
Muslims and Christians believe in God.
The Bible says the fool says in his heart there is no God!
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What an odd reply to what I wrote. Just looking for any old excuse to try to insult people or what?
 
Keltoi said:
As for the story about the former Muslim who converted to Christianity, it depends on one's point of view. To a Christian this person found the truth, to a Muslim this person walked away from the truth. Neither point of view should be surprising or controversial.
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I Doubt That Happen sound to me they were playing the game my God better then your God , I saw same thing on one of those christian show , It's called recruiting the non - believer . What a better way to recruit people . Then saying how a muslim was convert to christianity .

The Noble's Koran Chapter 4; 171 ( with Modern Persian Script )
''Oh family of the scriptures ( from Adam to Muhammad , then to Jesus ) , do not overstep your ( Deen ) religion , and do not say things about Allaah other than what is the truth . Verily , the Messiah Jesus sons of Mary is a messenger of Allaah , and Allaah's own word , which he conveyed to Mary and Jesus is a sould from Allaah , So believe in Allaah and his messengers , And don't say 'three 'verily , it is better for you . Verily , because Allaah is one Allah , Glory be to him , that there can exist for him a paternal son ( walad ) . For him is what is in the heavens above and the planet Earth , and Allaah is sufficient as an advocate .
 
Trumble said:
What a desperately depressing comment in a 'comparative religion' forum.
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I wasn't a comment; it was a true testimony. She is not depressed; she thanks God for it and wants to reach Muslims starting with her family. In fact, I wanted her to teach me how to deal with Muslims over the clash in religion. She said no one preached to her ,so that makes me think I should be doing more praying and less preaching with you guys. :omg:
 
alapiana1 said:
I wasn't a comment; it was a true testimony. She is not depressed; she thanks God for it and wants to reach Muslims starting with her family. In fact, I wanted her to teach me how to deal with Muslims over the clash in religion. She said no one preached to her ,so that makes me think I should be doing more praying and less preaching with you guys. :omg:
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in that case there is no need for you to preach at us anymore since your version of jesus can do it all by himself!

When are you going to leave us?
 
There will be muslims who convert to christianity and there will be christians who convert to islam. In both cases the former community will denounce the convert. This is not suprising.
 
Balthasar21 said:
I Doubt That Happen sound to me they were playing the game my God better then your God , I saw same thing on one of those christian show , It's called recruiting the non - believer . What a better way to recruit people . Then saying how a muslim was convert to christianity .

The Noble's Koran Chapter 4; 171 ( with Modern Persian Script )
''Oh family of the scriptures ( from Adam to Muhammad , then to Jesus ) , do not overstep your ( Deen ) religion , and do not say things about Allaah other than what is the truth . Verily , the Messiah Jesus sons of Mary is a messenger of Allaah , and Allaah's own word , which he conveyed to Mary and Jesus is a sould from Allaah , So believe in Allaah and his messengers , And don't say 'three 'verily , it is better for you . Verily , because Allaah is one Allah , Glory be to him , that there can exist for him a paternal son ( walad ) . For him is what is in the heavens above and the planet Earth , and Allaah is sufficient as an advocate .
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Are you suggesting that no Muslim would convert? Well, I'm sure in your view that is correct. To a Christian, no true Christian would convert to Islam. Sort of goes back to my original point.
 
Keltoi said:
Are you suggesting that no Muslim would convert? Well, I'm sure in your view that is correct. To a Christian, no true Christian would convert to Islam. Sort of goes back to my original point.
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I think both of us would say the same thing. I know I would say no true Muslim would ever convert away and I see that most Christians also dsay the same. I believe the Jews have solved the problem by saying that once a Jew always a Jew even if you say you convert away.

Everybody does believe they are right and it is unthinkable that somebodywould even think of straying away.
 
NoName55 said:
in that case there is no need for you to preach at us anymore since your version of jesus can do it all by himself!

When are you going to leave us?
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I will ask the Lord what I should do. In the mean time, I'll be praying for all of you. That will be more effecteive than my preaching. You might tell me to preach instead, cause God hears me.
 
alapiana1 said:
I wasn't a comment; it was a true testimony.
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You misunderstand me. It was Woodrow's comment that I found depressing.

The lady concerned obviously found the personal path that brings her peace, happiness and closeness to God. That is reason for celebration, not for sadness or a need for 'healing' or 'coming to her senses'.
 
Woodrow said:
I think both of us would say the same thing. I know I would say no true Muslim would ever convert away and I see that most Christians also dsay the same. I believe the Jews have solved the problem by saying that once a Jew always a Jew even if you say you convert away.

Everybody does believe they are right and it is unthinkable that somebodywould even think of straying away.
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That is true I would have said that no true Christian would revert to Islam. Now, I am not so sure I am right. Because the Bible says that the Spirit expressingly states that there will be some that turn from the faith listening to lying spirits that tell to abstain from certain foods... The Apostle Paul never thought he would be a Christian; in fact, he was consenting to their deaths and beatings. Jesus knocked him off his high horse and spoke to him. God was more gentle with the Muslim girl, but it is her testimony, and I believe it as much as I do Paul.
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Trumble said:
You misunderstand me. It was Woodrow's comment that I found depressing.

The lady concerned obviously found the personal path that brings her peace, happiness and closeness to God. That is reason for celebration, not for sadness or a need for 'healing' or 'coming to her senses'.
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I can identify with you there. :) I even believe there are benefits from being buddist, but the Bible states that the only way for eternal life is through Christ. Nevertheless, I agree with you, and I am happy for her!
 
Woodrow said:
I think both of us would say the same thing. I know I would say no true Muslim would ever convert away and I see that most Christians also dsay the same. I believe the Jews have solved the problem by saying that once a Jew always a Jew even if you say you convert away.

Everybody does believe they are right and it is unthinkable that somebodywould even think of straying away.
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I particulary found that quote interesting about how Muslims are suppose to protect the religious rights of non-Muslims. I have learned something. It makes me feel that true Musims are not in agreement with the terrorist acts by Muslims. Those Muslim terrorist are going against the Qur'an. I didn't know that. I will remember that word. On the other hand, there are those Christians who do evil thinking they are doing God's service.
 
Woodrow said:
I think both of us would say the same thing. I know I would say no true Muslim would ever convert away and I see that most Christians also dsay the same. I believe the Jews have solved the problem by saying that once a Jew always a Jew even if you say you convert away.

Everybody does believe they are right and it is unthinkable that somebodywould even think of straying away.
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Wait a minute here. I read that I little closer and it saying that they respect the non-Muslim in a Muslim state, but what if they are not in a Muslim state?
 
alapiana1 said:
That is true I would have said that no true Christian would revert to Islam. Now, I am not so sure I am right. Because the Bible says that the Spirit expressingly states that there will be some that turn from the faith listening to lying spirits that tell to abstain from certain foods... The Apostle Paul never thought he would be a Christian; in fact, he was consenting to their deaths and beatings. Jesus knocked him off his high horse and spoke to him. God was more gentle with the Muslim girl, but it is her testimony, and I believe it as much as I do Paul.
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Areyou saying that we dont eat pigs like you do because we are "listening to lying spirits"? What about the real written Torah was that not here before paulism?when are the admins going to see your true self and get rid of you? its gone far behond comparative to preaching to promotion!
 
alapiana1 said:
Wait a minute here. I read that I little closer and it saying that they respect the non-Muslim in a Muslim state, but what if they are not in a Muslim state?
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It is even more important in a Non-Muslim State, if we can not live within the laws of our "Host" community we are to move from it. So, it comes down to being either show proper respect or leave.
 

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