Are you God's Friend?

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there is one thing ..
we can't b god's freinds ..cuz he doesn't need us we r his slaves god says in the holy qura'an (إن كل من في السماوات و الأرض إلا آتي الرحمن عبدا)
that is the ayah nu : 93 from sorat : mariam ..
I think that part is so strong if u wanna read it all u will understand me .....
 
Grenville, this is most wonderful, what you've said, your heart seems oh so bright and may god keep guiding you ;^)... For Atheists on these forums, i truly am curious on how your destiny will unwind, for you've approached Islam at a very personal level and maybe Allah, will one day open your eyes... Keep on searching and trying to understand....

Mashallah!
 
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Allah(SWT) has made Mohammad(SAW) and Ibrahim(AS) His Khalil(intimate friend):

[PIE]Surah An Nisa verse 124:

Ibrahim is Allah's Khalil Allah's statement,

[وَاتَّخَذَ اللَّهُ إِبْرَهِيمَ خَلِيلاً]

(And Allah did take Ibrahim as a Khalil (an intimate friend)!) encourages following Ibrahim Al-Khalil, because he was and still is an Imam whose conduct is followed and imitated. Indeed, Ibrahim reached the ultimate closeness to Allah that the servants seek, for he attained the grade of Khalil, which is the highest grade of love. He acquired all this due to his obedience to His Lord, just as Allah has described him,

[وَإِبْرَهِيمَ الَّذِى وَفَّى ]

(And of Ibrahim, the one who fulfilled),

[وَإِذِ ابْتَلَى إِبْرَهِيمَ رَبُّهُ بِكَلِمَـتٍ فَأَتَمَّهُنَّ]

(And (remember) when the Lord of Ibrahim tried him with (certain) commands, which he fulfilled), and,


[إِنَّ إِبْرَهِيمَ كَانَ أُمَّةً قَـنِتًا لِلَّهِ حَنِيفًا وَلَمْ يَكُ مِنَ الْمُشْرِكِينَ ]

(Verily, Ibrahim was an Ummah, obedient to Allah, a Hanif, and he was not one of the Mushrikin). Al-Bukhari recorded that `Amr bin Maymun said that when Mu`adh came back from Yemen, he led them in the Fajr prayer and recited,

[وَاتَّخَذَ اللَّهُ إِبْرَهِيمَ خَلِيلاً]

(And Allah did take Ibrahim as a Khalil!) One of the men present commented, "Surely, the eye of Ibrahim's mother has been comforted.'' Ibrahim was called Allah's Khalil due to his Lord's great love towards him, on account of the acts of obedience he performed that Allah loves and prefers. We should mention here that in the Two Sahihs, it is recorded that Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri said that when the Messenger of Allah gave them his last speech, he said,

«أَمَّا بَعْدُ، أَيُّهَا النَّاسُ فَلَوْ كُنْتُ مُتَّخِذًا مِنْ أَهْلِ الْأَرْضِ خَلِيلًا، لَاتَّخَذْتُ أَبَا بَكْرِ ابْنَ أَبِي قُحَافَةَ خَلِيلًا، وَلكِنْ صَاحِبُكُمْ خَلِيلُ الله»

(O people! If I were to take a Khalil from the people of the earth, I would have taken Abu Bakr bin Abi Quhafah as my Khalil. However, your companion (meaning himself) is the Khalil of Allah.) Jundub bin `Abdullah Al-Bajali, `Abdullah bin `Amr bin Al-`As and `Abdullah bin Mas`ud narrated that the Prophet said,

«إِنَّ اللهَ اتَّخَذَنِي خَلِيلًا، كَمَا اتَّخَذَ إِبْرَاهِيمَ خَلِيلًا»


(Allah has chosen me as His Khalil, just as He has chosen Ibrahim as His Khalil.) Allah's statement,

[وَللَّهِ مَا فِى السَّمَـوَتِ وَمَا فِى الاٌّرْضِ]

(And to Allah belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth.) means, everything and everyone are His property, servants and creation, and He has full authority over all of this. There is no one who can avert Allah's decision or question His judgment. He is never asked about what He does due to His might, ability, fairness, wisdom, compassion and mercy. Allah's statement,

[وَكَانَ اللَّهُ بِكُلِّ شَىْءٍ مُّحِيطاً]

(And Allah is Ever Encompassing all things.) means, His knowledge encompasses everything and nothing concerning His servants is ever hidden from Him. Nothing, even the weight of an atom, ever escapes His observation in the heavens and earth, nor anything smaller or bigger than that.[/PIE]

Isn't Abraham given the same status in the Bible?

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The fact is that God is Almighty, and He desires a personal relationship with each of us.

I acknowlage this is your beleif, but how do you aquire it as a fact?

As to "Am I Gods freind", I would answer no. A freind in my understanding of the word is one that is communicatable with, that takes care of you and tries to help. Also that freindship is a two way street.
Since the assumption of god being omnipresent means he can see everything I go through, why would he not use the omnipotence to help when things go wrong?
 
All humans have a nature, and that is to be a slave to something.... Some worship or are dependent (in other words) on their work, girlfriends, families, talents etc.... As one searches and iterates through this list, you may realize that all these elements are finite.... Families can break, relationships can end, you could be fired from you job etc. Types of things that destroy many lives, when the person is dependent on it... Yet i realized that the only thing that one can be dependent on without fearing an end for it or anything of that nature, is Allah!

You see, did you wonder why some people (true religious ones) just seem cool at anything, and manage whatever comes to them.... Its that feeling of being under the wing of infinite. No fear of obstacles of life nor death... For you are the creation of Allah, and everyday you thank him (5 times day) some do it even more than that! This process is also therapeutical to one, for it is as if your seeing somebody who advises you (only of course here, it is Allah and it is much more different that a therapist or an agent ;^))....

Hence, to conclude this is why I love being Muslim.... I'm Allah's creation, slave and strive everyday to be his most obedient... Following the principles of Islam, is the perfect life... No sinning, no drinking no loitering... "Good things, are found in the middle of the things" And that is the philosophy of this beautiful religion... And you sense, for as you increase your prayers and love of god... Your aura changes, and that u realize when climbing the bus or entering an area full of strangers, some people just keep looking ( and no i don't have a long beard! :^p).... Anyways, this was just a little insight of what's it like to be a Muslim... (There is so much to it, I've only described the tip of the tip of the tip of the tip of the iceberg ;^))

GoodLuck!
Mashallah!
 
Salam Alaykum Guys

he expressed the idea that he can feel the Holy spirit while he is praying, and that it is essentially the Holy spirit which puts the words in his mouth and makes em come out the way they do.

Maybe you should have asked what the Holy Spirit feels like in him. You might realise that this Holy Spirit thing is essentially in you but under a different name.

as hard as this was for me to grasp, i was obliged to reply. i realised as i answered that the Holy Spirit is part of God.muslims do not seperate God into three, we do believe in the same attributes...

Sister, are you saying that their Holy Spirit, the one they believe makes them say that Jesus is Saviour and God etc is Allah?

Personally I think it's very difficult to speak of these things because we all put different understanding to different words, like a Christian's view of belief in Jesus is different to a Muslim's view of the same thing. One will say it, belief in Jesus, means to believe in the death and resurection his divinity etc whilst the other will say it, belief in Jesus, means to believe that he was a prophet and messenger etc.

Both using the same phrases but meaning different things.


I think we should all do what God says, and in general what Jesus says (although his message in detail is not for us),

Allah is my Lord and your Lord. So serve Him. That is the right path.​
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Hi Al Arabi:

You wrote:
we can't b god's freinds ..cuz he doesn't need us we r his slaves
You are correct, but being His slave is not the end of the relationship. You are supposed to become a son.

Thank you Namr777:

I believe that Muslims and Christians are brothers and sisters; however, Christian and Islamic traditions have not only kept us apart, but also in an adversarial relationship. Unfortunately, these traditions have chosen to interpret specific verses in the Bible and Qu’ran in a contentious manner, when they can clearly be interpreted in a manner that is harmonious with both Books.

Hi Z.Al Rashid:

Yes, Abraham is given a similar status in the Bible, and it is not unattainable for us.

Hi Barney:

I acknowledge this is your belief, but how do you acquire it as a fact?
How do we know as fact that sedimentary rock is made of sand particles, or that timber is composed of fibres, or that topsoil is composed of clay, or that the sea is salty? We test it. We may make assumptions or we may have opinions, but then we must go further and test them in order to verify or correct our initial assumptions.

Now if I crushed sedimentary rock and reported to you that I found it to be composed of sand, then you could either believe me or disbelieve. However, if you disbelieved, then it would be prudent if you also crushed the rock and determined for yourself what you thought it was composed of. It is only after conducting your test that a debate of each of our results would have any merit. For me to enter into a debate with one who simply refuses to carry out the test would simply provide mirth to those reading our discourse.

King David of Israel encouraged us: “Oh, taste and see that the LORD is good;” and then knowing the result from his personal experience, he declared “Blessed is the man who trusts in Him! “ (Psalms 34:8)

Barney, if you will but submit to God, then you too will know as a fact that God is Almighty and that He desires a personal relationship with you.

Hi Al Habeshi:

Personally I think it's very difficult to speak of these things because we all put different understanding to different words, like a Christian's view of belief in Jesus is different to a Muslim's view of the same thing. One will say it, belief in Jesus, means to believe in the death and resurection his divinity etc whilst the other will say it, belief in Jesus, means to believe that he was a prophet and messenger etc. Both using the same phrases but meaning different things.
Regardless of what the Christian or Islamic traditions teache about Jesus, the Bible and Qu’ran are clear the Jesus is the Messiah. So we can agree that we are referring to the same Jesus.

Regards,
Grenville
 

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