I don't understand how the coming of Mahdi or a promised one is consistent with the Quranic teachings that we, as humans, are the ones to establish peace and harmony on earth by following God's guidance.
1. The Mahdi is not the one who will descend from the sky.
Yes, and he sent down the Qur'an with a Messenger for a reason.
Then likewise, it makes no sense for Allaah to send Messengers to mankind. He should have just send down all the Books upon different mountains and mankind could have figured out the best way to "struggle"!
The Prophet Muhamamd pbuh told us that 'Isa will return and that the Mahdi will come. There is no valid reason for you to reject the authentic teachings of the Prophet Muhammad saw.“My intensive research in the Qur’an, Hadith and history has taught me that any human being who tries to save the planet and make it a better place to live is the Mahdi and the Messiah in his own right.”
-Jamaluddin Afghani
Just my two-cents
Peace
Eeman, you shouldn't pray, fast, make pilgrimage or celebrate Eid, as even the six verses that deal with pilgrimage in the Quran, don't go into great details of how it is to be performed!
I don't know how you are Muslim, but yours is a deviant sect .. this is the second time I tell you this sister, so take heed!
Volume 9, Book 84, Number 65:
Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Amr bin Yasar:
That they visited Abu Sa'id Al-Khudri and asked him about Al-Harauriyya, a special unorthodox religious sect, "Did you hear the Prophet saying anything about them?" Abu Sa'id said, "I do not know what Al-Harauriyya is, but I heard the Prophet saying, "There will appear in this nation---- he did not say: From this nation ---- a group of people so pious apparently that you will consider your prayers inferior to their prayers, but they will recite the Quran, the teachings of which will not go beyond their throats and will go out of their religion as an arrow darts through the game, whereupon the archer may look at his arrow, its Nasl at its Risaf and its Fuqa to see whether it is blood-stained or not (i.e. they will have not even a trace of Islam in them)."
salam alaikum
That is unfortunate, our religion covers all aspects of life including the political!
dear sister i am NOT a part of any sect nor group i do not believe in such things nor follow politics based on religion.
I have given you a link on Isnad, i.e how to determine the authenticity of hadiths!
May I ask, are you or have you been a part of an Islamic scholarly group that consensus on what is to be accepted and rejected? We are asked to seek knowledge from the people of knowledge, not to follow our own whims or create our own sects.. Have you read and understood suret al'moemnoon?
That is unfortunate, our religion covers all aspects of life including the political!
I have given you a link on Isnad, i.e how to determine the authenticity of hadiths!
May I ask, are you or have you been a part of an Islamic scholarly group that consensus on what is to be accepted and rejected? We are asked to seek knowledge from the people of knowledge, not to follow our own whims or create our own sects.. Have you read and understood suret al'moemnoon?
If we were not to follow our own whims as you word it then what does one follow from the very start when they are blessed with guidance? is it the scholar that fills your heart with eeman or Allah swt?
knowledge comes from Allah swt Al Hakim, and it is guidance that guides you to knowledge, not arguing on the scholars part only saying that the Qur'an is not as hard to understand as people make it out to be. not the whole population of the world need to be scholars to understand the message of the Almighty.
That is interesting indeed.. there are many things in our daily practice as Muslims that aren't mentioned in the Quran or are spoken of outside the ordinary range of human experience or understanding, and thus explained by the prophet SAW... if hadiths is give in form of tawatur, then it is incumbent upon you as a Muslim, if you accept the Quran to obey the full message of the messenger... not doing it and accepting consequences is one thing, rationalizing and intellectualizing to suit ones fancy is a different animal all together.. I'd be weary of being led astray and leading others astray with me... I am not here to speak of which sin is greater than which...
If you don't pray and understand that it is an obligation that you are simply not fulfilling, isn't the same as deranging religion by stating well the Quran doesn't teach us how to pray so it isn't mandatory!
Allah swt mentions in the Qur'an that He has made religion easy upon mankind, but somehow when i read some hadith it seems that these hadith are doing nothing but making religion as hard and as demanding as you can imagine. to the point where there are hadith on what day of the week should one cut their nails!!!
yes i agree with you the Qur'an does not mention how to pray but touches upon salah many times and its importance, when you read hadith on how salah is done and compare it to the Qur'an it makes sense cos it does not contradict the Qur'an.
Allah knows best
hard and demanding doesn't denote shouldn't be given attention or consideration to...
I don't think you'll rot in hell for not cutting your nails on thursday it is 'mostahab' suret al'waqi3a tells you of three different types of people coming on the day of judgement.. perhaps one can't be of the sabiqoon but surely we must strive to be at least of as7ab al'maymna
there are four levels of religiosity
Islam, iman, ikhlas and i7san
some people say they are mo'emnoon when in fact they are only muslimoon, Allah knows best who is what and that too is mentioned in the Quran...
but finding something overwhelming isn't a reason to say, they are simply not true.. again I refer you to the chapter on isnad!
there is indeed a hadith that states
'ina adeen wasi3, fawghil feeh be'rifq, inna almonbata la ardan qata3 wla dhran abqa'
'religion is vast, so teach with gentility, he who is abrasive (coarse) in his approach, has neither crossed the land nor kept his mode of transport'..really an assimilation of a man who is trying to cross a long desert but feels overwhelmed so he starts beating his horse or camel, until it dies or gets too overwhelmed and tired and runs away.. so he neither keeps his horse, nor does he get to cross the desert..
but you can't pick and choose to suit your fancy... I have to be honest with you, it isn't up to me what you personally do with your life, but this is a public forum, and I'll write this so long as I feel you are disseminating false information..
I only commented on that because that is the example you used!
This is a topic on mahdi, if it doesn't appeal to your new form of Islam, then simply skip the topic in lieu of deeming it untrue and then cutting and pasting articles from a deviant website!
I only commented on that because that is the example you used!
Islam covers every aspect of ones life, from how you clean yourself to how to run a govt. So there can be no excuse...
No one is asking you to follow every hadith, we are asking not to objurgate or dismiss as untrue simply because you feel they are overwhelming!
I don't know what that means or how it relates to ahadith concerning al mahdi! simply you are not qualified to denounce something as true or untrue!
now peace sister end of conversation
I don't know what that means or how it relates to ahadith concerning al mahdi! simply you are not qualified to denounce something as true or untrue!
This is a topic on mahdi, if it doesn't appeal to your new form of Islam, then simply skip the topic in lieu of deeming it untrue and then cutting and pasting articles from a deviant website!
The overwhelming was made toward your comments on hadith concerning cutting the nails on thursday, pls try to focus on a topic, or don't introduce variables into a topic if you can't keep track of what you've written!
the minute you brought a large cut and paste from a deviant sect into this forum for purpose of circulating 'your opinion' you have placed yourself as an object of scrutiny, for multiple reasons really, all which you should contemplate..
I have already let you know, that what you personally do is of no consequence to me, but questionable articles that you publically disseminate will be subject to inquiry especially as to purpose!
Your beliefs aren't in concert with sunna, I am simply pointing that out for fellow readers of all ways of life!
cos i dunno whether your coming or going quite frankly and its like i'm having the tables turned on me cos i spoke about what i believed and NOT about what everyone should believe!
