Atheism's Opposition with Nature..

[CosmicPathos]

lol. ya i think we are just speculating. ppl choose to do whatever they desire to do. Desires ought to not have physiological explanations all the time. I think that's what it is. ppl desire to explore the "forbidden" or the disgusted, and they get addicted to that which is anti-thesis to their humanity.

 

[جوري]

I could probably articulate myself better with some sleep as it stands I have had about two days and a half straight and I feel extremely foggy.. however, I don't think a woman can offer another woman anything physically and if it is psychology they need, then simply having a girlfriend would fulfill that need. I have a very difficult time believing that a woman can be physically attracted to another woman, it is not to say she can't find another woman beautiful just attracted in that magnetic way is a farce. I don't buy into it and it is going to take all the devils ice skating in hell before my very eyes to change my mind and at the end of the day I wouldn't care anyway.

 

[Independent]

If atheists were geniunely living according to their understanding of reality, they should be living a pathetic life of misogyny and depression as Neitzsche lived, true to his belief or lack of belief in Deity, superior moralsm and external purpose

Just to point out, the world's most famous atheist - Nietzsche - may not actually have been an atheist at all. Everyone thinks he was because of his famous line 'God is dead'. But of course, an atheist would never say this. An atheist doesn't believe there was a God in first place, so how could he die?

(It's possible that what he was meant is that the whole right/wrong, good/evil moral structure of Christianity was dead or no longer relevant. But different interpreters have different opinions.)

As far as his biography is concerned Nietzsche's own beliefs are not certain. We do know that he had a liking for Buddhism.

So, for most famous atheist, we should probably substitute Richard Dawkins, who at least has the merit of clearly being an atheist.

 

[Pygoscelis]

The argument is the same you know that's the problem. Nothing new, up to and including the homo penguins. Animals are also not known to be monogamous, so why do they condemn and down right frown upon polygamy which would actually give identity and inheritance to those b@stard children and is actually conducive to the continuation of life as opposed to a hedonistic futile cycle...

This is kind of spinning things on its end though. The only reason atheists or liberals will tell you that "homosexuality is natural" is because they are responding to theist or conservative claims that "homosexuality is not natural".

Personally I am with the above poster who pointed out that "natural" is a weird thing t be concerned over. Disease is natural and that doesn' t make it good. The practice of medicine is "going against nature", as is building airplanes, and we don't seem to balk at that.

I've also always found the term "natural" for this to be odd. "Natural"? As opposed to what? Supernatural?

Two men or two women getting married, does that make sense to anyone?

Marriage in general doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. But I see no reason to forbid it to others. I have no problem with homosexuality or poligamy in others. I don't see any rational reason why it should concern me.

 

[Pygoscelis]

lol. ya i think we are just speculating. ppl choose to do whatever they desire to do. Desires ought to not have physiological explanations all the time. I think that's what it is. ppl desire to explore the "forbidden" or the disgusted, and they get addicted to that which is anti-thesis to their humanity.

I think you are on to something here. People are attracted to the forbidden and taboo. I think that may explain why some who are raised religious want to investigate other faiths or atheism, etc. I think it also explains some of the Americans who investigated and converted to Islam after 9/11 happened there. It is surely just one reason people do these things but I think it is a more important one than most people realize.

 

[جوري]

How does theology/philosophy relate to millenniums long deviant sexual acts in your opinion?

 

[CosmicPathos]

Marriage in general doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. But I see no reason to forbid it to others. I have no problem with homosexuality or poligamy in others. I don't see any rational reason why it should concern me.

the muslim girl you are dating, she expects you to marry her?

 

[LearningTQuran]

Regarding the eye, I am no expert on evolution but here is a video by a very young Dawkins (made many years ago) I found with a very quick google that explains evolution of the eye very well. You do NOT have to have spontaneous occurence of an eye like we have today. Each stage is more useful than the last. Especially note the smooth progression by Neilson (sp?) the is being referred to.

Great video

 

[CosmicPathos]

Eye is a very complex organ and cannot develop on its own via evolution. Even if it evolved, it was intelligently guided, not randomly driven, as there is no evidence of randomly driven process ever resulting in formation of a functional eye.

 

[جوري]

glad the rest of the body caught up with that formation

 

[LearningTQuran]

Eye is a very complex organ and cannot develop on its own via evolution. Even if it evolved, it was intelligently guided, not randomly driven, as there is no evidence of randomly driven process ever resulting in formation of a functional eye.

Its cool that you have that opinion but I have my own. :statisfie

 

[جوري]

The forum isn't about opinions. It is about facts. Do you have those?

 

[LearningTQuran]

The forum isn't about opinions. It is about facts. Do you have those?

Clearly you didn't watch the video.

 

[جوري]

Clearly you didn't watch the video.

clearly you don't understand that adding random amino acids together doesn't give form nor function nor animation & especially if you're suggesting a random process that arose ex nihilo!

best,

 

[LearningTQuran]

You wan't to talk about science in the quran and hadiths? I assure the earth and sun aren't flat, nor does the sun set in a murky warm swamp, nor does a house have poison on one wing and antidote on the other, ect

 

[sister herb]

You wan't to talk about science in the quran and hadiths? I assure the earth and sun aren't flat, nor does the sun set in a murky warm swamp, nor does a house have poison on one wing and antidote on the other, ect

You and that sister are not good combition at all. What if you try to discuss with others?

 

[جوري]

You wan't to talk about science in the quran and hadiths?

The thread is entitled:

Atheism's Opposition with Nature..

Thus meandering the topic as a form of deflection doesn't give you kudos points- just a nice expose though of your character. Be that as it may you're most welcome to start a thread about the science in the Quran and hadith!

I assure the earth and sun aren't flat

Well thank you for being so observant. Nothing in the Quran nor hadiths suggest that either of them is.
the word daha'ha from the Quran in description of the earth denotes 'Egg shaped' when Europeans like Roger II of Sisely were contending that the earth was flat, Al- Idrisi a Muslim geographer was handing him silver globe models of the earth, so I assure you such a topic would be a welcome chance to expose you for an ignoramus. I challenge you to bring it on!

nor does the sun set in a murky warm swamp

I am guessing you've not dabbled in abstract thinking? since there's such a thing as allegory, and we still use expressions today as sunset and sunrise.. do we not? Come on you can do better for someone 'learning the Quran'?

nor does a house have poison on one wing and antidote on the other, ect

Sure they do.. You need to take a pharmacology course sometimes.. Might just be shocked at the fish testicles and mare urine you're ingesting for cures..
Where have you been hanging? Don't atheists get with the times like the rest of humanity or are they too good to be true?

best

 

[جوري]

You and that sister are not good combition at all. What if you try to discuss with others?

Hehe.. I'll take that as you wanting him to be handled with the kid gloves used on those in the preoperational stage thinking?

 

[CosmicPathos]

Its cool that you have that opinion but I have my own. :statisfie

Nowhere did I say it was my opinion. I said there is no evidence of that randomly driven process ever resulting in something as functional as an eye.

 

[Hulk]

I always chuckle to myself everytime someone starts machinegunning "contradictions" and act like they didn't get it from some website. Its the same routine all the time.