atheist logic

[Serinity]

That is possible. Maybe I am spiritually blind; born without a sensory capacity for Gods and ghosts. If so, you should be able to show it with some evidence, or at least some coherent argument beyond bare faith, wishful thinking, and god of the gaps assumptions.

Even if science came to know how our cells were build, I'd still believe in Allah. Cause then the question is "How could this whole thing assemble and who controlled it?" if I ask you "How did B do X" you'd say "B did X because of T which did V" overall, science only gets closer to how, not who.

and I find it delusional and arrogant to think this could come from none.

Islam answers all questions, it is Allah that created everything, and that is evident in creation. We've all been born with the ability to believe in Allah, to recognize Him. Many have been mislead,tho.

It is arrogant to presume that you are the key concern, or even a small concern, of the all powerful creator of the universe, and that he has a special relationship with you and a special message for you.

Islam is a message to all mankind. Whether you accept it or not, is upto you.

No. It can't. But it is all we have to get at truth. "Revelation", "Faith" and other forms of fantasy and wishful thinking may be comforting but are useless for finding truth.

I presume you haven't even cared to look into whether it can be from God? Islam does not call for wishful thinking, or fantasy.

Those who think that "we live and die and become nothnig - there is no ressurection" are wishful thinkers, and fantasisers.

No, science isn't the only thing we have to get at truth - we have our brains.

Unless Allah knows nothing, because Allah is imaginary. I see no evidence otherwise.

That is your assumption. There is evidence, but you refuse to think.

Do you think if I bomb earth that a human being will spawn? No, then how do you think that this whole thing could come to be without a guiding hand? and if you say it is guided by natural selection, then tell me, is it conscious? you say no. Guided by the environment? so you say natural selection is guided by the environment, but how can that be when you say that it is unconscious?

Allah does exist, but you are but wishfully thinking. How regretful you will be on the Day of Judgment, being passive about finding the truth.

Science doesn't show anything except how it was created. Overall, it is Allah that created it.

The ignorance, presumptions in this comment of yours is cancerous, and unintelligent.

am not the one that has been refusing to address the posts above on evolution, including one by a fellow muslim who brought up some very good evidence. Nor am I the one that claims to be perfectly certain of anything. Science is always open to change and revision. Religion is dogmatic and inflexible. Which one is narrowminded again?

Religion, dogmatic and inflexible? Ha, perhaps for false religions, but Islam is timeless, and flexible.

 

[M.I.A.]

Hast thou not Turned thy vision to one who disputed with Abraham About his Lord, because Allah had granted him power? Abraham said: "My Lord is He Who Giveth life and death." He said: "I give life and death". Said Abraham: "But it is Allah that causeth the sun to rise from the east: Do thou then cause him to rise from the West." Thus was he confounded who (in arrogance) rejected faith. Nor doth Allah Give guidance to a people unjust.

Lol, posted this in the wrong thread before.. Anyway, science.

 

[Moderator]

(mildly) I do not see that this thread is going anywhere constructive; it started with a lack or respect, and has woven in and out of respectful discussion since... I would suggest that it be closed. If an atheist wishes to express his or her beliefs so that we can better understand them, then I would suggest that a new thread could be started by him or her, with this intention.

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