Atheists turn to billboard sites

[JaffaCake]

What do you mean by reasonable values?

Whatever basic values would allow them to function in society, and within the law.

Besides societies in Britain are messed up. High teenage pregnancy rates, high crime rate, rise in promiscuity and many dysfunctional families. So yeah Secularism is excellent for society.

I remember reading a study that linked increase teen pregnancy with a more religious population. This was in the US however. [Haven't looked at the actual data but this seems interesting].

Central and South America and most of Africa rank near the top of crime statistics, mostly very religious areas.
[Other stuff]

If you have some real data to back up your claims I'd love to see them (honestly).

 

[Maryan0]

There are athiest billboards on the public transportation in my city with slogans like "there probably is no god so do what you want". I find it interesting that a group that professes to hate organized religion resorts to tactics used by organized religion to spread their message. The fact that atheists are now even considered a group seems contradictory in itself.

 

[جوري]

The "Choose for myself" part, clearly. There is no direction to accept atheism, and the person reading the board is not the one who will be left to choose. Their children will be the ones choosing, and they would not have read the list of funders.

Really, I am sure you'd feel the same then, if the billboard stated the same but was founded by the Mormons or Zoroastrian.org

all the best

 

[JaffaCake]

Really, I am sure you'd feel the same then, if the billboard stated the same but was founded by the Mormons or Zoroastrian.org

Yes, though of course I'd be very surprised if any organised religion did that.

 

[جوري]

Yes, though of course I'd be very surprised if any organised religion did that.

but not surprised that the cult of atheism sponsored it just the same?

all the best and until you make a new account (have a nice life) :skeleton:

 

[JaffaCake]

I'm not surprised no, it's their assumption that people thinking for themselves will lead to atheism, or some other state or non-religion. You could assume that of the organised religions too but I think they would fear 'evil' influences too much to want to leave it chance.

 

[GuestFellow]

Whatever basic values would allow them to function in society, and within the law.

Well what is reasonable values within the law?

I remember reading a study that linked increase teen pregnancy with a more religious population. This was in the US however. [Haven't looked at the actual data but this seems interesting].

Central and South America and most of Africa rank near the top of crime statistics, mostly very religious areas.
[Other stuff]

Right and America is extremely religious and adopt the full Christianity faith. Second link is not working.

If you have some real data to back up your claims I'd love to see them (honestly).

Secularism has no guidance on how to live your life. Recently on BBC Panorama reported Social Workers on a daily basis receives calls on how children are being mistreated. No guidance at all to the extent where parents cannot offer proper care to their own children.

I think it was called Social workers: A frontline view.

 

[_tariq_]

Well what is reasonable values within the law?

If it's within the law, it's reasonable, generally speaking. Values do change over time though, so that might not always be the case.

Right and America is extremely religious and adopt the full Christianity faith. Second link is not working.

Weird, works for me.

Secularism has no guidance on how to live your life.

Try common sense and the law of the land.

Recently on BBC Panorama reported Social Workers on a daily basis receives calls on how children are being mistreated. No guidance at all to the extent where parents cannot offer proper care to their own children.

I think it was called Social workers: A frontline view.

Try looking for some articles about the sexual abuse of children in religious nations where sexes are separated.

 

[جوري]

I'm not surprised no, it's their assumption that people thinking for themselves will lead to atheism, or some other state or non-religion. You could assume that of the organised religions too but I think they would fear 'evil' influences too much to want to leave it chance.

I don't think atheists think for themselves at all.. perhaps a couple who are exceptionally loud as they too need to reinforce their beliefs in front of an audience, the rest just jump on that bandwagon because it is trendy and they'd hate to be left 'behind' to Archaic trends. I haven't encountered one atheist that can defend his beliefs with any dexterity without resorting to ad homs and ad hocs. It is a belief like any other, only starting two steps behind everyone else and spiced with attitude to make up for the short comings..

all the best

 

[Humbler_359]

There is billboard in Toronto,

 

[جوري]

making an Arabic name now you the right idea, you should also change your way of life to Muslim and go under for a while, then go with the flow, and then start your attack, it might give you some leverage then longevity and convince the members that you are just a sad apostate... take lessons from 'Faysal'-- there is a way to survive, didn't evolution teach you anything?

all the best

 

[valerie26]

I don't think atheists think for themselves at all..

I think that might be a mistake

the rest just jump on that bandwagon because it is trendy and they'd hate to be left 'behind' to Archaic trends.

I think that might be a mistake too.

I haven't encountered one atheist that can defend his beliefs with any dexterity without resorting to ad homs and ad hocs.

I could say the same about theists

It is a belief like any other

Wrong, see here


I don't want to pretend to be a muslim, I just need sufficient time to post before getting banned I suppose I might be better saving up my replies and posting in bulk.

 

[Uthman]

Why don't I just close this thread for now, eh?