(Athiest) Richard Dawkins: 'Children need to be protected' from religious parents

[Abdullahh]

He's an idiot. We shouldn't dignify his utterly nonsensical words by repeating them. :threadclo

 

[saif-uddin]

Atheism Breeds Hatred and Fanaticism,

Dawkins is a sad but classic example,

 

[ardianto]

What makes you think you have that right?? FYI, YOU only have a responsibility to "protect" YOUR offspring. You DON'T have any inherent or legitimate responsibility to "protect" MY offspring, just as I have no inherent responsibility to protect your offspring either. In fact I'm not the least bit interested in your offspring and I don't care what you do with them. Why should I? Me and my offspring are NOTHING to do with you therefore you have no right to arrogantly and self-righteously interfere in my domestic affairs. Me and my offspring DON'T belong to any "society" (as you call it), nor do we ever WANT to be. We are freestanding separatists and will live our lives our own independent way without being interfered with by outsiders. As I have said to you many times before, I will defend my parental sovereignty and my property rights to the death, if need be.

All this "what about the children" hype we continually hear these days in the Zionist controlled mainstream media is nothing more that a collectivistic New World Order ploy which attempts to overthrow private property, parental sovereignty and to eventually outlaw religion. It attempts to destroy entire families by trespassing into all household inner sanctums to usurp paternal sovereignty. I for one will NEVER tolerate that.

When I talked about communism I talked to you. But when I talked about care for children, I talked to Pygoscelis, not you.

 

[saif-uddin]

Athesist don't like it when you expose what the Fanatical Communists brethren did, slaughtering millions of people,

lol,

 

[Karl]

When I talked about communism I talked to you. But when I talked about care for children, I talked to Pygoscelis, not you.

If you wanted to only talk to your Pygoscelis chum you would have sent him a private message. You put it up on a public message board for ALL to read, so therefore you are not just talking to Pygoscelis you are ALSO talking to me and everyone else who reads this.

 

[Pygoscelis]

What in his post was with the communism? I am a muslim and a communist and I didn´t see anything communism in his post.

Good question. But I think calling me a communist was his attempt to insult me. Now that we have an actual communist, and it happening to be one of the nicer people on the forum, he's kinda put his foot in his mouth eh?

Nothing in my post indicates that I am a communist, because I'm not. Not that I have anything against them.

 

[Pygoscelis]

You have NOTHING to do with my children so you have no responsibility to them. You have no vested interest in them and I will not tolerate communists trespassing on my property and stealing them from me.

Oh but I do have responsibility to them, just as I have responsibility to all of humankind. If you abuse them, beat them, or kill them, I am obliged to step in. You may think you own them and can abuse them without any consequences, but think again.

 

[sister herb]

You should go and talk to an Imam. Communists burn Churches and Mosques etc and kill all believers in God or gods.

You should understand that not every communists come from the same mold. Many haven´t nothing against other people´s faith or their holy places. Also many are communists because they believe the fairness in society, welfare what should share equally to the whole human kind, freedom as well peaceful world.

Surely you can find far-right communists (or should they be far-left?) as well you can find far-right what ever like far-right Christians and Muslims. I am sure that out there is also some far-right atheists too.

I am sad if you use the name of communist as insult, specially if you call someone by that name with no evidence. We should avoid to insult others. That is not a good way to behave, specially to muslims. We should remember to respect others here when we discuss with them - also when we disagree with their opinions.

 

[Karl]

Oh but I do have responsibility to them, just as I have responsibility to all of humankind. If you abuse them, beat them, or kill them, I am obliged to step in. You may think you own them and can abuse them without any consequences, but think again.

It is good you have exposed your true self Godless one. Communist, socialist, humanist, collectivist, you have many names but you are the legion of the devil, at war with religion especially Islam. God is my lord not you and your ilk, I do not recognise your self declared "authority". You have responsibility only for yourself and your spawn. Thou shalt not trespass on me or there will be war.

BTW why are you not responsible for every living thing on this world? Why just "humankind"? Why do you not interfere with the families of non hominins? PROVE your argument that you have responsibility for my progeny.

 

[Karl]

You should understand that not every communists come from the same mold. Many haven´t nothing against other people´s faith or their holy places. Also many are communists because they believe the fairness in society, welfare what should share equally to the whole human kind, freedom as well peaceful world.

Surely you can find far-right communists (or should they be far-left?) as well you can find far-right what ever like far-right Christians and Muslims. I am sure that out there is also some far-right atheists too.

I am sad if you use the name of communist as insult, specially if you call someone by that name with no evidence. We should avoid to insult others. That is not a good way to behave, specially to muslims. We should remember to respect others here when we discuss with them - also when we disagree with their opinions.

What you're talking about is nothing to do with Islam. Seek knowledge, go to Saudi Arabia if you can afford it and learn from the most learned.
Why should I respect my enemies? Why should I respect Godless oppressors? Because they are many and have political power and have brainwashed many around the world into Cultural Marxism? " Welfare what should share equally to the whole human kind" where does it say this in the Quran? It sounds more like a typical leftist catch cry from the United Nations. This is not zakat what you're talking about. You're talking about international socialism and the forced redistribution of wealth globally.
As far a I am concerned what's yours is yours and mine is mine.

 

[sister herb]

Salam alaykum brother Karl

I am not here talking about socialism or communism but the manners how we treat others in here. No need to insult others like calling them by names (like you called other member a communist who isn´t communist). We don´t need to agree with everyone but we need to remember our manners (insulting others because of their opinions might not be a good islamic manner, right?) and explain our own opinions to other using kind words. And yes, we have to learn to avoid insulting other people too even when we strongly disagree with their values and words. What insultings tell about ourselves?

I am not talking about international communism at all, just told that not every one are made from the same mold. I am not going to burn churches or mosques, as I wrote but building the better world to everyone. I believe that islam too will help people to share the social welfare with others. Or is the kind of world, where nobody need to suffer hungry or war, against the values of islam? I don´t think so.

Also, I don´t think that I could find the best knowledge just from the Saudi Arabia.

We are talking here about opinions of atheist (Richard Dawkings), not opinions of communists. Or is Dawkins communist too? As one brother wrote, not all atheists are communists. Also not all communists are atheists. Let´s try to separate these things.

Now, could we go back to the topic and try to keep this discussion peaceful?