Back From Iraq

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

Wow. Smart you are Thats lucky of ya.

Omg my dad is EXACTLY like that..it only da sundays off, somtimes.
neway

It's really sad. We've never had a vacation together. My dads been doing this since he came here. And its been 20 yrs or something. Im 20, right now....so basically since I was born. We went to disney once but my dad couldnt go with us, cuz he had to work. We are supposed to take one, but im not even sure its possible now...its horrible.

Anyways...i laugh when i see those army commercials. Whether or not this guy is exaggerating, it doesnt dismiss the fact that people are admitting whats going on there.

 

[snakelegs]

Aren't they misleading? I get upset every time I see one! You made your kids strong... we'll make them army strong... fades to scene where small kid is helping dad load a bail of hay into a pickup truck. Maybe they should show the kid throwing a burned body into the **** pick-up truck. But then, they won't get too many enlisting if they showed that. And parents certainly wouldn't go for the sight of their sons coming back with legs and arms missing - if they don't come back in a box. Meanwhile back at the ranch, they're complaining about Hip Hop because it's... too violent, lol.

The Ninth Scribe

take heart! president bush has made a Sacrifice in honour of the dead soldiers: he has given up golf!!!!!!!! i imagine this is a great comfort to the grieving families.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/may/14/usa.uselections2008?gusrc=rss&feed=worldnews

 

[barney]

Did you know that the US Army rations come in two flavours.
Raw Pig and Fried Baby. They cook them over a fire fueled by old ladies.

 

[truemuslim]

Wow. Smart you are Thats lucky of ya.



It's really sad. We've never had a vacation together. My dads been doing this since he came here. And its been 20 yrs or something. Im 20, right now....so basically since I was born. We went to disney once but my dad couldnt go with us, cuz he had to work. We are supposed to take one, but im not even sure its possible now...its horrible.

Anyways...i laugh when i see those army commercials. Whether or not this guy is exaggerating, it doesnt dismiss the fact that people are admitting whats going on there.

Yeh, my dads been working at the same place for like 35 yrs now, each time the hours get higher...its just the pay that i doubt gets higher. and we'r a family of...waita sec i always forget...9 minus one = 8 so 8 family members and INSHALLAH one on the way!! :statisfie

Did you know that the US Army rations come in two flavours.
Raw Pig and Fried Baby. They cook them over a fire fueled by old ladies.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL :laugh: (thats laughin at the moment)

 

[Woodrow]

so people sign up for the army so they can go spread peace around the world rather than killing innocent people and come up witha lame excuse for it? (i dont thiiink so)

There are exceptions to every statement, however very few Americans enlist in the military for the purpose of going to war.

It is rare for an American soldier to be used in combat. Less than 20% of the current military force is being used for Iraq and Afghanistan. Many people who enlist will never leave the US. There are more soldiers in Texas than in Iraq.

The typical enlistee believes he/she is joing to help save lives and to defend America from invasion. Very few join with a desire to kill or go to war.

At the present time there are 1,426,705 US military on active duty, another 1,458,400 on reserve status. For a total militay strength of almost 4,000,000 Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_the_United_States

There are between 105,000 and 110,000 serving in Iraq(source:http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/iraq-intro.htm) or if you enlist in the military today, there is only about a 1 out of 30 chance of going to Iraq. Anybody joining the US military, will probably never see combat.

There are currently 114,000 US soldiers in Texas. A person joining the US military has a higher chance of being sent to Texas, than to Iraq. Source:LINK

Going back to the question most people who join the military in the USA do so for:

1. Education benefits

2. Job training

3. Desire to protect America

4. Intent to help other nations

 

[truemuslim]

There are exceptions to every statement, however very few Americans enlist in the military for the purpose of going to war.

It is rare for an American soldier to be used in combat. Less than 20% of the current military force is being used for Iraq and Afghanistan. Many people who enlist will never leave the US. There are more soldiers in Texas than in Iraq.

The typical enlistee believes he/she is joing to help save lives and to defend America from invasion. Very few join with a desire to kill or go to war.

At the present time there are 1,426,705 US military on active duty, another 1,458,400 on reserve status. For a total militay strength of almost 4,000,000 Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_the_United_States

There are between 105,000 and 110,000 serving in Iraq(source:http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/iraq-intro.htm) or if you enlist in the military today, there is only about a 1 out of 30 chance of going to Iraq. Anybody joining the US military, will probably never see combat.

There are currently 114,000 US soldiers in Texas. A person joining the US military has a higher chance of being sent to Texas, than to Iraq.

Jazakallah khair
I know, but why can't they all stay in america then? Its safer for the rest of the world. And maybe when some invasion happens they can finally make themselves useful for something ...with a real reason?

 

[Cabdullahi]

There are exceptions to every statement, however very few Americans enlist in the military for the purpose of going to war.

It is rare for an American soldier to be used in combat. Less than 20% of the current military force is being used for Iraq and Afghanistan. Many people who enlist will never leave the US. There are more soldiers in Texas than in Iraq.

The typical enlistee believes he/she is joing to help save lives and to defend America from invasion. Very few join with a desire to kill or go to war.

At the present time there are 1,426,705 US military on active duty, another 1,458,400 on reserve status. For a total militay strength of almost 4,000,000 Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_the_United_States

There are between 105,000 and 110,000 serving in Iraq(source:http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/iraq-intro.htm) or if you enlist in the military today, there is only about a 1 out of 30 chance of going to Iraq. Anybody joining the US military, will probably never see combat.

There are currently 114,000 US soldiers in Texas. A person joining the US military has a higher chance of being sent to Texas, than to Iraq.

Ok because you are an american you obviously know more about these things but what if those who signed up with the view only to help the country against invasion and help the innocent that came back with a fountain of blood spurting out of their hands,what can we say,most of american soldiers signed up to help and make peace when they wer sent to vietnam many of them came back as killers,other soldiers of different personalities and of a different era ,they went to afghanistan and came back as rapists with the view of just to bring peace? it doesnt make sense,and the same with iraq.what i am saying is whether they right on the application that they are the best humanitarians and make it out as if they are young angels,if they are called up to go to iraq even if the chances are slim and they are told to kill they will kill!.if you are a good person and want to bring peace and help the poor dont be in the army because the american army is quite the opposite of that full stop!

 

[Air Jordan]

Jazakallah khair
I know, but why can't they all stay in america then? Its safer for the rest of the world. And maybe when some invasion happens they can finally make themselves useful for something ...with a real reason?

The chief problem with isolationism is that those who wish you harm merely become more powerful. It has been tried a number of times in US history. It didn't turn out so well.

The history of the world did not begin when you first got texting added to your cell phone plan, sis.

There are quite a number of books that recount things that went on before you were born. Some of them are quite good.

U SHUD SCOP EM OUT.

 

[truemuslim]

The chief problem with isolationism is that those who wish you harm merely become more powerful. It has been tried a number of times in US history. It didn't turn out so well.

The history of the world did not begin when you first got texting added to your cell phone plan, sis.

There are quite a number of books that recount things that went on before you were born. Some of them are quite good.

U SHUD SCOP EM OUT.

US history is stupid and violent all the way....and its not changing.

i dont even have a cellphone. and texting is for preppy girls.

i do read. and how u kno when i was born. im 51 yrs old. prolly older than u. i kno history bout US...even tho it sucks and its boring. but yeh

 

[Air Jordan]

Ok because you are an american you obviously know more about these things but what if those who signed up with the view only to help the country against invasion and help the innocent that came back with a fountain of blood spurting out of their hands,what can we say,most of american soldiers signed up to help and make peace when they wer sent to vietnam many of them came back as killers,other soldiers of different personalities and of a different era ,they went to afghanistan and came back as rapists with the view of just to bring peace? it doesnt make sense,and the same with iraq.what i am saying is whether they right on the application that they are the best humanitarians and make it out as if they are young angels,if they are called up to go to iraq even if the chances are slim and they are told to kill they will kill!.if you are a good person and want to bring peace and help the poor dont be in the army because the american army is quite the opposite of that full stop!

Blowing up a couple of US embasies in Africa IS an invasion. Trying to sink the USS Cole IS an invasion. Sawing off a pilot's head over Pennsylvania IS an invasion.

The US military does perform many humanitarian activities but, of course, their primary goal is to defend the country. That will inevitably involve the use of force and it doesn't mean they are going to sit on some beach in New Jersey waiting for an attack.

If you object to decisions of the civilian elected government then you can advocate your position during the electoral process. That is happening as we speak. In the meantime you can keep your insulting generalizations to yourself.

 

[truemuslim]

Sawing off a pilot's head over Pennsylvania IS an invasion.

ewwwhwwwwww +o(

 

[Air Jordan]

US history is stupid and violent all the way....and its not changing.

i dont even have a cellphone. and texting is for preppy girls.

i do read. and how u kno when i was born. im 51 yrs old. prolly older than u. i kno history bout US...even tho it sucks and its boring. but yeh

QED

 

[Fishman]

i do read. and how u kno when i was born. im 51 yrs old. prolly older than u. i kno history bout US...even tho it sucks and its boring. but yeh

You said elsewhere that you were being homeschooled though...

 

[truemuslim]

QED

sorry i dont speak jedi :-[

You said elsewhere that you were being homeschooled though...

omg shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh (lol)
silly i meant homeschooled in...in ..a senior college thingy for old ppl who didnt get an education

 

[Woodrow]

Ok because you are an american you obviously know more about these things but what if those who signed up with the view only to help the country against invasion and help the innocent that came back with a fountain of blood spurting out of their hands,what can we say,most of american soldiers signed up to help and make peace when they wer sent to vietnam many of them came back as killers,other soldiers of different personalities and of a different era ,they went to afghanistan and came back as rapists with the view of just to bring peace? it doesnt make sense,and the same with iraq.what i am saying is whether they right on the application that they are the best humanitarians and make it out as if they are young angels,if they are called up to go to iraq even if the chances are slim and they are told to kill they will kill!.if you are a good person and want to bring peace and help the poor dont be in the army because the american army is quite the opposite of that full stop!

My reply was directed as a reply to explain that most Americans do not enlist for the purpose of going to war. Our intent is good, but sometimes the truth is hidden from us.

I am a Korea/Vietnam era vet. I too came back with PTSD, but it was not diagnosed until 1995. The impact of of being shot down and crashing did not cause it. However, the realization of what I had done and the number of children I had killed with napalm was more than I could handle. As an American GI I was well trained to face death without fear, but I was not taught how to kill without sorrow or pain. The realization,that I had killed finaly sunk in 1995 and it was more than I could handle. American GIs are not trained to kill or rather not trained to kill without feeling regret.

The American GIs in Iraq are not the enemy, they too are victims and are little more than teenagers that were fed lies. For most they honestly believe they were sent to help the Iraqi people.

The problem now is there are 100,000 young American kids in Iraq. How do we get them safetly out of Iraq?

 

[barney]

sorry i dont speak jedi :-[



omg shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh (lol)
silly i meant homeschooled in...in ..a senior college thingy for old ppl who didnt get an education

Umm..Truemuslim, you said on another post your 15! you really have to hit the keys in the right order!

 

[truemuslim]

Umm..Truemuslim, you said on another post your 15! you really have to hit the keys in the right order!

omg i give up.
yes im 15 no 51 .
cant yall keep a secret from a jedi?! :raging: lol

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

Yeh, my dads been working at the same place for like 35 yrs now, each time the hours get higher...its just the pay that i doubt gets higher. and we'r a family of...waita sec i always forget...9 minus one = 8 so 8 family members and INSHALLAH one on the way!! :statisfie

InshaAllah thats great.

 

[barney]

Sawing off a pilot's head over Pennsylvania IS an invasion.

.

As is Stabbing air-hostesses to death and ploughing 300 people ranging from such fine military occupations as School Cook and Childrens Nurse, packed into a steel tube filled with hi octane gas into a building stuffed with feirce combatants like Computer technician and Tea Lady.
The way of the warrior is weak in these, young padawan.

 

[Cabdullahi]

Blowing up a couple of US embasies in Africa IS an invasion. Trying to sink the USS Cole IS an invasion. Sawing off a pilot's head over Pennsylvania IS an invasion.

The US military does perform many humanitarian activities but, of course, their primary goal is to defend the country. That will inevitably involve the use of force and it doesn't mean they are going to sit on some beach in New Jersey waiting for an attack.

If you object to decisions of the civilian elected government then you can advocate your position during the electoral process. That is happening as we speak. In the meantime you can keep your insulting generalizations to yourself.

Hahah you the funniest jedi i have seen.To go to another man's country and take it by force and to kill anyone that you may wish and to capture them and imprison them in their own country while forcing them to act homesexual acts out of will and to rub faeces on their faces and bodies is this humanitarian to you do you know what it means?,you cannot argue you simply cannot simliar techniques of punishment and torture were stated by the american government publicly that they will use it in guantanamo bay.